Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

Juliet's alt-consciousness appeared to be leaking back into her real consciousness just before she died. If that was to happen to, say, John Locke, it could be interesting.

sorry, what happened with juliet again?

She was suddenly all "hey we should get coffee some time", like she was somewhere different entirely. Then after her death she told Sawyer, through Miles, that "it worked".

that's true.

id prefer it if there was some tangible reason for the six being the six, for being candidates. not exactly "why these people". but what do jin and sun bring to the table exactly? that, say, another major cast member didn't. their kid? i can't even remember what happened to their kid.

Maybe the alt-timeline destiny is their actual destiny and something that Jacob or MIB has been desperately trying to prevent?

― Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), den 18 februari 2010 12:18 (20 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

what i thought as well. jacob most likely. as far as the kate flashsideways it seemed to show her way of finding peace or whatever but i'm not sure as to how the theory works with lockes flashsideways

neither jacob nor MIB can be particularly invested in these people's domestic happiness or whatever. jacob wanted them to *do* something. that thing not being done must have consequences beyond locke getting on with his pops or w/e.

Interesting how Jacob tells Kate to stop stealing things, and in the alt timeline she returns Claire's stolen purse

using a stolen car tho

That's true, she should have returned that - in the alt timeline she is 'the gunpoint borrower'

I was wondering though if Jacob actually affects the characters in the new timeline at the point he talks to them, so that their futures are different from that point on. Locke's life appears radically different where Kate's not so much.

At some point they're going to have to address how the heck Ben is alive in the alt - by all rights he should be dead in 1977, right?

lol @ the best week ever recap: "Basically, if this Jacob replacement candidate thing does end up being the crux of this final season, it means the entire show Lost has been about a group of tropical island castaways being filmed competing to win a title."

^^ lol

Survivor: Magical Island.

this show is so fucked up. i don't even bother asking questions anymore. i just hold on tight and hope that i understand at least half of what is going on.

― scott seward, Wednesday, February 17, 2010 10:34 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

So you have chosen option one of Flocke's 'Three Choices'. (the other two being, Keep Guessing or Stop Watching).

A weird detail is Claire's sonogram was dated Oct 22 2004, which is a month after 815 was supposed to arrive in LA. They might not have arrived on the 815 at all. Or it could just be a continuity error.

yeah I think the writers clarified that that was a continuity error

Do they have twitter or something? You guys have seemingly instant access to their creative team!

lostpedia, duh

"Basically, if this Jacob replacement candidate thing does end up being the crux of this final season, it means the entire show Lost has been about a group of tropical island castaways being filmed competing to win a title."

Fwiw ABC approached JJ Abrams with the concept for Lost, they wanted an action/drama version of Survivor.

fuck this 'chosen one' shit

they are all pretty suited for sitting alone in a cave for a couple of hundred years "protecting" an island tho. because they all have terrible human skills. i would say except for hurley but then again he can talk to dead people and would probably be fine

yeah I think the writers clarified that that was a continuity error

Ah that's cool. Where'd you see that?

on lostpedia but it seems they've changed their minds a bit now

The date in Claire's sonogram contains an error and a clue according to a post by Gregg Nations on The Fuselage. One interpretation is that it shows the incorrect month (10-22-2004) and should be 9-22-2004 (September rather than October) and the clue concerns the year, i.e. 2004. (Nations does not refer to the time at all.) When asked whether the "10" was the clue and the "04" the error, he replied that they were not.

As cool as this inside dope info is, I kinda wish the writers were all sequestered, jury-duty style, drinking coffee and pacing back and forth, blowing up at each other now and then until the finale.

I was wondering though if Jacob actually affects the characters in the new timeline at the point he talks to them, so that their futures are different from that point on. Locke's life appears radically different where Kate's not so much.

Nah Kate was like 10 years old when Jacob found her.

Kate doesn't seem to be terribly different in the sideways timeline, but as a personality she seemed a little less desperate, more in control. In the video podcast, Lilly said that the Kate there seemed to relish her role as a fugitive more, as an "adrenaline junkie". This makes sense since she doesn't actually kill her father in that timeline, but some random guy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time, so her standard Lost daddy issues/guilt isn't as present.

The date in Claire's sonogram contains an error and a clue

Oh man, every time I think I know what the hell is going on ...

Loved scared shitless Richard, please more full-on panic from people expecting to get dashed against rocks by MIB.

Ilana's collecting the ashes, which I thought would happen, but I have no idea how those ashes magically become the circles of ash used throughout the show. Maybe the timeline's been violated so many times that the laws of cause and effect no longer apply.

just for fun here is the S1 episode list, it seems that we can expect a rough parallel in this season (minus six episodes of course).

Kate and Locke have had their matched episodes so next week's "The Lighthouse" should be Jack.

#01
"Pilot, Part 1"
(Jack)
#02
"Pilot, Part 2"
(Charlie & Kate)
#03
"Tabula Rasa"
(Kate)
#04
"Walkabout"
(Locke)
#05
"White Rabbit"
(Jack)
#06
"House of the Rising Sun"
(Sun)
#07
"The Moth"
(Charlie)
#08
"Confidence Man"
(Sawyer)
#09
"Solitary"
(Sayid)
#10
"Raised by Another"
(Claire)
#11
"All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues"
(Jack)
#12
"Whatever the Case May Be"
(Kate)
#13
"Hearts and Minds"
(Boone)
#14
"Special"
(Michael & Walt)
#15
"Homecoming"
(Charlie)
#16
"Outlaws"
(Sawyer)
#17
"...In Translation"
(Jin)
#18
"Numbers"
(Hurley)
#19
"Deus Ex Machina"
(Locke)
#20
"Do No Harm"
(Jack)
#21
"The Greater Good"
(Sayid)
#22
"Born to Run"
(Kate)
#23
"Exodus, Part 1"
(Various)
#24
"Exodus, Part 2"
(Various)

has anyone even discussed who that young chappy that mib saw was? is it a young jacob? aaron? i assumed young jacob but he did refer to jacob as "him".

i don't even wanna go there. to me the kid kinda seems to speak for some third neutral part (maybe actually the island itself?) but who the hell knows

IMO him=Sawyer, ie, you can't kill the "candidates."

The fact that he wasn't seen by Richard, but was by Sawyer, could mean that the bloodsoaked one was some sort of projection, and the other one a real boy. It does remind me of Jacob's 'Jin won't be able to see me'. Could be only candidates can see projections? If Jin can't see Jacob then maybe the candidate's Sun.

Meaning that both times the child's a projection that only candidates can see.

I only learned later by looking up the kid that his arms were bloody in the first scene, what the hell.

also check out the casting call info if you like teasers

thought it was aaron...1. he looked just like claire and 2. they made such a point last week to remind us who aaron is. not sure why he would be whatever age he appeared to not-locke and sawyer though.

did anyone catch some of those other names on the walls? i saw but didn't recognize: mattingly, o'toole, rourke, martin...i bet these are people who were on the black rock. also, littleton (as in, claire) was crossed out!

yeah I think she died when the rocket or grenade or whatever hit her house, was just zombified after that.

or maybe she is just no longer a candidate

Dreading the thought of seeing Charlie's brother again.

heh

http://spoilerfiles.com/spoilertv/newdarkufoheader.png

did find it odd that James didn't look for Kate's name or ask about it

btw that cave scene was the dumbest thing they have ever done. "reyes... that's hugo right?" cut to flash of jacob touch "ford... that's me right?" cut to jacob etc etc

did anyone catch some of those other names on the walls?

Check the Rotten Tomatoes forum link I posted for info about the names.

"reyes... that's hugo right?" cut to flash of jacob touch "ford... that's me right?" cut to jacob etc etc

yeah hated this, eats up valuable seconds! the 'previously' recaps are bad enough.

Can't believe they still put that thing saying 'L O S T' up there as well. Like, we all know what it's called!

yeah was dire...those jacob scenes were like two eps ago!

Just imagining if they did this every time a previous episode was referenced...

good zing Matthew

How awesome would it be if the "previously on lost" showed footage that we couldn't possibly have seen before, a la arrested development?

haha

"Congratulations, you're a candidate"

"STEVE HOLT"

re the scene where f locke trips, falls flat, and looks up to see the back of the boy's feet - correct me if i'm wrong, but i think the cinematography here is mimicking a similar scene from season one (which i mentioned upthread) where jack is chasing christian through the jungle.

also, the bloody image of the boy threw me off a bit because, back in the day, the blood imagery was used to represent the island giving spiritual guidance to people, ie locke and eko. except back then we thought there was one island and one faction representing the island's interests, smoke monster included.

based on the plot description for next week and the likelihood of it being a jack's episode... i'm not overly enthusiastic.

please no plot descriptions!