Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

the spank rock

The Yacht Rock.

this was a better-done ep than the first three, so was enjoyable on some level. still have massive forebodings though.

RIght, and it seems improbable that a hydrogen bomb would go off and sink an island yet destroy nothing on it-- Dharmaville, the the base of the statue, etc.

The only way this would work would be if most of the energy from the bomb blast went into negating the energy from the time pocket the Dharma dudes drilled into. Assuming we accept all the science here is bollocks and just roll with it.

The thing we don't know yet is the link between Jacob/Man In Black and the time energy, and what the consequences of fucking with that energy would be for them.

Yeah, according to Eloise the island was sort of unlocked in space, to the point that Dharma had to build a pendulum thingy to predict where it would at any given time. Surely this movement had something to do with the unique electromagnetic pocket inside of the island. And if that pocket were destroyed by Jughead then I can see the island just falling out of its orbit into the ocean.

Would guess the alternate timeline is the characters' lives w/o Jacob's interference, i.e. the way the man in black wants them to be able to live. If that's true, I'm not sure that 1977 really has anything to do with it. (It seemingly could for the island but perhaps not for the consciousness/lives/etc of those involved in Jacob's machinations.)

I for one would be way pissed if the alt-timeline did not fork off in 1977. As for the Jacob interactions, the SSN 5 finale did make a point of showing us Jacob at Sawyer's parents' funeral and then having Sawyer tell Jack that his parents died in 1976. I think the show is going somewhere with this.

Probably we'll soon see teacher Ben telling Locke about how he grew up on this weird island but had to leave in 1977.

the no-plane-crash 2004 timeline has to add up to SOMETHING. we can't just have these characters "randomly" meeting each other in cute ways.

Maybe the alt-timeline destiny is their actual destiny and something that Jacob or MIB has been desperately trying to prevent?

there haven't been any pointers in the show yet but imo something has to be happening in alt-timeline that matters, and that relates to all the island shit. the fibonacci equation. whatever. it can't just be seeing their backstories resolved.

Juliet's alt-consciousness appeared to be leaking back into her real consciousness just before she died. If that was to happen to, say, John Locke, it could be interesting.

sorry, what happened with juliet again?

She was suddenly all "hey we should get coffee some time", like she was somewhere different entirely. Then after her death she told Sawyer, through Miles, that "it worked".

that's true.

id prefer it if there was some tangible reason for the six being the six, for being candidates. not exactly "why these people". but what do jin and sun bring to the table exactly? that, say, another major cast member didn't. their kid? i can't even remember what happened to their kid.

Maybe the alt-timeline destiny is their actual destiny and something that Jacob or MIB has been desperately trying to prevent?

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what i thought as well. jacob most likely. as far as the kate flashsideways it seemed to show her way of finding peace or whatever but i'm not sure as to how the theory works with lockes flashsideways

neither jacob nor MIB can be particularly invested in these people's domestic happiness or whatever. jacob wanted them to *do* something. that thing not being done must have consequences beyond locke getting on with his pops or w/e.

Interesting how Jacob tells Kate to stop stealing things, and in the alt timeline she returns Claire's stolen purse

using a stolen car tho

That's true, she should have returned that - in the alt timeline she is 'the gunpoint borrower'

I was wondering though if Jacob actually affects the characters in the new timeline at the point he talks to them, so that their futures are different from that point on. Locke's life appears radically different where Kate's not so much.

At some point they're going to have to address how the heck Ben is alive in the alt - by all rights he should be dead in 1977, right?

lol @ the best week ever recap: "Basically, if this Jacob replacement candidate thing does end up being the crux of this final season, it means the entire show Lost has been about a group of tropical island castaways being filmed competing to win a title."

^^ lol

Survivor: Magical Island.

this show is so fucked up. i don't even bother asking questions anymore. i just hold on tight and hope that i understand at least half of what is going on.

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So you have chosen option one of Flocke's 'Three Choices'. (the other two being, Keep Guessing or Stop Watching).

A weird detail is Claire's sonogram was dated Oct 22 2004, which is a month after 815 was supposed to arrive in LA. They might not have arrived on the 815 at all. Or it could just be a continuity error.

yeah I think the writers clarified that that was a continuity error

Do they have twitter or something? You guys have seemingly instant access to their creative team!

lostpedia, duh

"Basically, if this Jacob replacement candidate thing does end up being the crux of this final season, it means the entire show Lost has been about a group of tropical island castaways being filmed competing to win a title."

Fwiw ABC approached JJ Abrams with the concept for Lost, they wanted an action/drama version of Survivor.

fuck this 'chosen one' shit

they are all pretty suited for sitting alone in a cave for a couple of hundred years "protecting" an island tho. because they all have terrible human skills. i would say except for hurley but then again he can talk to dead people and would probably be fine

yeah I think the writers clarified that that was a continuity error

Ah that's cool. Where'd you see that?

on lostpedia but it seems they've changed their minds a bit now

The date in Claire's sonogram contains an error and a clue according to a post by Gregg Nations on The Fuselage. One interpretation is that it shows the incorrect month (10-22-2004) and should be 9-22-2004 (September rather than October) and the clue concerns the year, i.e. 2004. (Nations does not refer to the time at all.) When asked whether the "10" was the clue and the "04" the error, he replied that they were not.

As cool as this inside dope info is, I kinda wish the writers were all sequestered, jury-duty style, drinking coffee and pacing back and forth, blowing up at each other now and then until the finale.

I was wondering though if Jacob actually affects the characters in the new timeline at the point he talks to them, so that their futures are different from that point on. Locke's life appears radically different where Kate's not so much.

Nah Kate was like 10 years old when Jacob found her.

Kate doesn't seem to be terribly different in the sideways timeline, but as a personality she seemed a little less desperate, more in control. In the video podcast, Lilly said that the Kate there seemed to relish her role as a fugitive more, as an "adrenaline junkie". This makes sense since she doesn't actually kill her father in that timeline, but some random guy who was in the wrong place at the wrong time, so her standard Lost daddy issues/guilt isn't as present.

The date in Claire's sonogram contains an error and a clue

Oh man, every time I think I know what the hell is going on ...

Loved scared shitless Richard, please more full-on panic from people expecting to get dashed against rocks by MIB.

Ilana's collecting the ashes, which I thought would happen, but I have no idea how those ashes magically become the circles of ash used throughout the show. Maybe the timeline's been violated so many times that the laws of cause and effect no longer apply.

just for fun here is the S1 episode list, it seems that we can expect a rough parallel in this season (minus six episodes of course).

Kate and Locke have had their matched episodes so next week's "The Lighthouse" should be Jack.

#01
"Pilot, Part 1"
(Jack)
#02
"Pilot, Part 2"
(Charlie & Kate)
#03
"Tabula Rasa"
(Kate)
#04
"Walkabout"
(Locke)
#05
"White Rabbit"
(Jack)
#06
"House of the Rising Sun"
(Sun)
#07
"The Moth"
(Charlie)
#08
"Confidence Man"
(Sawyer)
#09
"Solitary"
(Sayid)
#10
"Raised by Another"
(Claire)
#11
"All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues"
(Jack)
#12
"Whatever the Case May Be"
(Kate)
#13
"Hearts and Minds"
(Boone)
#14
"Special"
(Michael & Walt)
#15
"Homecoming"
(Charlie)
#16
"Outlaws"
(Sawyer)
#17
"...In Translation"
(Jin)
#18
"Numbers"
(Hurley)
#19
"Deus Ex Machina"
(Locke)
#20
"Do No Harm"
(Jack)
#21
"The Greater Good"
(Sayid)
#22
"Born to Run"
(Kate)
#23
"Exodus, Part 1"
(Various)
#24
"Exodus, Part 2"
(Various)

has anyone even discussed who that young chappy that mib saw was? is it a young jacob? aaron? i assumed young jacob but he did refer to jacob as "him".

i don't even wanna go there. to me the kid kinda seems to speak for some third neutral part (maybe actually the island itself?) but who the hell knows

IMO him=Sawyer, ie, you can't kill the "candidates."

The fact that he wasn't seen by Richard, but was by Sawyer, could mean that the bloodsoaked one was some sort of projection, and the other one a real boy. It does remind me of Jacob's 'Jin won't be able to see me'. Could be only candidates can see projections? If Jin can't see Jacob then maybe the candidate's Sun.

Meaning that both times the child's a projection that only candidates can see.

I only learned later by looking up the kid that his arms were bloody in the first scene, what the hell.

also check out the casting call info if you like teasers

thought it was aaron...1. he looked just like claire and 2. they made such a point last week to remind us who aaron is. not sure why he would be whatever age he appeared to not-locke and sawyer though.

did anyone catch some of those other names on the walls? i saw but didn't recognize: mattingly, o'toole, rourke, martin...i bet these are people who were on the black rock. also, littleton (as in, claire) was crossed out!

yeah I think she died when the rocket or grenade or whatever hit her house, was just zombified after that.

or maybe she is just no longer a candidate

Dreading the thought of seeing Charlie's brother again.

heh

http://spoilerfiles.com/spoilertv/newdarkufoheader.png

did find it odd that James didn't look for Kate's name or ask about it

btw that cave scene was the dumbest thing they have ever done. "reyes... that's hugo right?" cut to flash of jacob touch "ford... that's me right?" cut to jacob etc etc

did anyone catch some of those other names on the walls?

Check the Rotten Tomatoes forum link I posted for info about the names.

"reyes... that's hugo right?" cut to flash of jacob touch "ford... that's me right?" cut to jacob etc etc

yeah hated this, eats up valuable seconds! the 'previously' recaps are bad enough.

Can't believe they still put that thing saying 'L O S T' up there as well. Like, we all know what it's called!

yeah was dire...those jacob scenes were like two eps ago!