Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

Did you miss the bit where Fake Locke explained a load of really important shit?

like what tho? obv he is not to be trusted and it was just his sales pitch to james. smokey kept asking james questions but didn't get any good ones in return, predictably.

It makes even less sense for Locke to invite his dad to his wedding after being pushed out of a window by him. Also in the original timeline, Helen left Locke because he couldn't get over his obsession with his father.

There are any number of reasons why Locke could have been paralysed in this alternate reality.

by far the #1 cause of spinal injuries is being thrown out of a building by your dad

(There's a big hole in my theory which is that Sawyer's parents were already dead by the time the bomb went off in 1977 - maybe that wiped Jacob out of all history or something?)

felt kind of bad for locke when he was all, "helen, if you dont want me in a wheelchair, dont marry me, because it will take a miracle for me to walk" and instead of being like "aw locke i love you in a wheelchair or out" she was all "i believe in miracles"

hahah

i was disgusted by her 'peace and love' top. maybe there was a Dharma logo on the label.

well she was wearing a "PEACE AND KARMA" t-shirt
xpost ha

But then she tore up Jack's card, the implication being that she believed in miracles AND was cool with Locke using a wheelchair.

Her "peace and karma" shirt did suck, tho.

WS katey segal

wish she'd dressed like Peg Bundy

wait i didn't even realise that was her (and also voice of Leela) argh

u lose

xxp not me! definitely love her more nowadays as she is in this show or on SoA, that Peg Bundy get-up was just wrong

oh god i've confused myself again: in the alternate timeline do we know that the bomb actually went off?

we know that the island is underwater. but is it not true that the bomb can only explode in the universe where the plane actually crashes (because it requires the survivors going back in time to detonate it!) ??

maybe the question is better posed in this form:

in the alternate universe what event is responsible for the island being underwater?

if it was the detonation of an atomic bomb then who is responsible for detonating it?

a bunch of time travellers from an alternate universe

let's say it was detonated in the 50s, because Daniel wasn't there to tell them to bury it

maybe the island is underwater because of global warming was not prevented by Jacob

someone please add the raw power sequencing bit to the trivia section on lostpedia

Don't think it works that way - from what I can tell, there is no alternate universe before the explosion in 1977. The explosion causes a fork with a new parallel timeline where everything is different outside of the island after that point, but the previous 2004/2007 crash timeline still exists. In the new timeline, the island sunk in 1977 and everybody is happy. Logically, I think that's the only way it could work, since our 815ers are still alive and popped back into 2007 in their original timeline, so everything for them had to have still "happened" for them to exist.

Like Trunk's time-traveling in Dragon Ball Z!

xp PLEASE!

watched a really good time-travel episode of spongebob the other day. patrick kept eating the tartar sauce that was supposed to defeat manray. hahaha, oh, patrick!

Note photos of Cooper in Locke's cube:
http://lost.cubit.net/assets_c/2010/02/locke_and_dad_1-2848.php

http://lost.cubit.net/assets_c/2010/02/locke_and_dad_1-2848.php

Was just thinking, maybe the fact that Lapidus was supposed to be the pilot on 815 and was supposed to be a "candidate" explains why Smokey killed the actual pilot in the very first episode?

xp Oooh good catch. guess he didn't steal his kidney after all! Maybe he wasn't an evil con man or reformed. Did notice that Sawyer-X didn't look like a guy who'd just mistakenly killed a guy he thought was responsible for killing his parents... guess we'll find out in a few episodes.

Also never put it together this dude bossed around both Hurley AND Locke:
http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Randy_Nations

Re: Lapidus, interesting. I doubt they thought it through that far, JJ Abrams probably just wanted to give Greg Grunberg a quick job. They even got him to speak over the intercom in the premiere... but that dude was clearly never supposed to make it to the island anyway.

uh guys peg bundy's "miracle" was locke qua locke (luvvy duvvy talk)

I'm wondering if Alternate Sawyer is actually a conman at all - maybe he was actually concerned for Hurley's future on the plane.

this show is turning into 30 rock!

ben = tracy jordan ("I'll say something! I'm very sorry I murdered this guy!")
lapidus = kenneth the page ("This is the weirdest funeral!")
smokey locke = liz lemon ("Inside joke." turns to camera, winks)

also comedy closeup on Locke's temp agency interviewer

It was interesting as hell that Ben admitted he murdered Locke in front of everyone.

But then Frank trotted out his "I guess we're not in Guam" face and just started digging.

The comparison upthread to "The Stand" was one that I mentioned to my friends while we were watching the episode!

Where was 12-year old Ben when the bomb went off? Was he still with the Others or back in Dharmaville? He must have had time to get off the Island in this new timeline - unless he was never there in the first place.

this show is so fucked up. i don't even bother asking questions anymore. i just hold on tight and hope that i understand at least half of what is going on.

We don't know that the bomb went off, btw.

But yeah, Ben and Ethan were both kids living in the Barracks, so probably were evacuated.

oh shit isn't arntz a science teacher? The gang's all coming back together!

would be pretty stoked if the whole losties vs the others conflict gets played out in high school form

Charlie is the music teacher!
Frogurt teaches nutrition!
Michael teaches art!
Jacob is the principal!

Brick 2 - Nuclear Boogaloo

are they gonna end up ripping off glee? that would be cool. would love to see locke musical number.

But yeah, Ben and Ethan were both kids living in the Barracks, so probably were evacuated.

But last we saw of young Ben he was with the Others, having recently been healed in the Temple. I don't know that he had time to get back to Dharmaville before the sub left.

michael emerson was on kimmel:

...last night’s appearance as a history teacher in the Sideways world wasn’t a throwaway. “I don’t think it’s just some mild departure. I think it has a big meaning that will play out as we go,”

Most of the numbers we see in Jacob's cave are much higher than those of the Flight 815 folk. I wonder if it was a sort of countdown headed toward number 1: Aaron, born on the island. The 6 who are still around could be necessary to bring him to the island but not true 'candidates' themselves for whatever reason.
Alternately, the names we do see are ambiguous. Shephard could be Jack or Christian or even Claire and Aaron right? Same with Kwon: Sun, Jin, their baby.

But last we saw of young Ben he was with the Others, having recently been healed in the Temple

True, but they told him he had to go back, so it isn't implausible that he did.

fair play to Jacob for not just picking his candidates from GAPDY

also comedy closeup on Locke's temp agency interviewer

This felt kind of Lynchian. She looked like a cross between Ileana Douglas and Jane Adams.

great episode

loved the parallels between alt-Locke and Smokey/Locke, Smokey angrily yelling "Don't tell me what I can't do!" and alt-Locke talking about how frustrating it was to be "trapped" in the wheelchair, just like Smokey is trapped.

also I think MIB wants off the island but for some reason needs a real human to do it, thus his interest in Sawyer - he saved him from falling and it looked like he really didn't want him to die.

and poor Sawyer, trying to climb a sketchy ladder after killing most of a bottle of whiskey.

also comedy closeup on Locke's temp agency interviewer

She's the lady who told Hurley's fortune back in SSN 3.