Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

kid saying "know the rules, you can't kill him" was very similar to the ben/widmore confrontation. but was he talking about sawyer or jacob?

I wonder if Locke=4 on the wall was a Jacob fakeout move & Kate is actually #4.

great episode!

trying to correlate the names on the ceiling in this episode with "jacob's list" from the first few series is fun but essentially hopeless. if they had really known where they were going with the jacob character we should have seen him visit the characters in the flashbacks of the first 3 seasons rather than the last episode of season 5.

one thing that surprised me was that smokelocke had to check with sawyer if he could see the kid. i've always assumed that any apparitions on the island were somehow down to smokey but clearly not if smokey wasn't sure if he was seeing one! does this mean that christian is not a smokey apparition (what i always assumed) after all?

jacob's earlier list didn't have jack on it. so.

In "Par Avion", Mikhail states that Kate is not on the list because she is "flawed"; Sayid is not on the list because he is "weak and frightened"; and Locke is not on the list because he is angry.

lol

if they had really known where they were going with the jacob character we should have seen him visit the characters in the flashbacks of the first 3 seasons rather than the last episode of season 5.

Not sure about this. When have they ever revealed stuff earlier when they could wait to do so later? I think Jacob and the "candidate" thing have been in the planning all along.

Jacob's original list probably didn't have any of the "candidates" on it, since they were supposed to play out some drama on the island, proving their leadership, worthiness, etc.

And if Richard didn't know what Candidates were then I doubt Mikhail did.

sure i mean that that point in time it was ben who was supposed to be getting this info from jacob but its been revealed that he never even spoke to him so...

*at that

That dialogue between Jack and Dogen about why Dogen doesn't speak English (to put a distance between himself & those he gives orders to) is like training Jack to become some dude who orders people around by sending out lists from beneath a foot.

I think Jacob and the "candidate" thing have been in the planning all along.

why do you find it so hard to believe / why do you find it so easy etc

I did it weird there was no Kate on the wall, though she was on Jacob's Ankh list in the premiere.

Maybe all the candidate are male and the winner gets to breed with Queen Kate.

did no one else say--the stones on the scale maybe the stones in jacks pocket?

inside joke

No Alpert on the wall either maybe = Kate is the next Alpert = next Jacob gets to mate ETERNALLY with Queen Kate????

Just like to point out that the scene where the Stooges is playing was totally unrealistic. "Search and Destroy" is the first song on Raw Power, but the record was in the middle of the side not at the beginning.

My wife laughed at me when I pointed this out, but I know you guys will understand. :-)

dharma reissue has different track order

I wonder if that will ever be explained!

new major things we learned:

Smokey seems to be now "stuck" as Locke and monster mode (according to Ilana, who also knows about the temple and it would be nice if someone just asked her more questions)

that's it

a bunch of other stuff suggested but not confirmed as such. seems Ben never actually went to the island in alt world...which could in turn mean that Widmore is still on the island there.

The island in alt world is all blowed up though.

Widmore has gills in this timeline

NO ONE IN THAT UNIVERSE WILL EVER HEAR THAT WEIRDLY SEQUENCED COPY OF RAW POWER!

What do you guys thing the first song on the Dharma version is?

I think Dharma chose prog over punk

i'd say this was the first episode really obviously based on The Stand

kinda wishing now this thread was titled Lost Season 6: Look Out Honey Cuz I'm Using Technology

I liked the exchange between MIB and Sawyer in the cave about his choices:

Man-in-Locke: You can stay and protect the island.
Sawyer: From what?
Man-in-Locke: Nothing! Definitely not me! I mean, nobody! Nobody and that includes me. Now let's go kill some motherfuckers and destroy the island!

I was LOLing hardcore at Ben as a pissy middle-school history teacher.

loving posi-hurley

BTW I think the whole "alternate universe" thing is just preparation for a spin-off show where no one ever goes to the island, it's going to be all about relationships and human emotions and Jack & Kate's on-again, off-again romance and Locke learning to live as a handicapable man etc. without any lame old mystery or intrigue getting in the way.

i'm thinking smokey has escaped in the sideways timeline and everyone in the world is having their choices controlled by it

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incredibly displeased

woulda been funnier if that reply was from rob mcelhenney

something about this season has kinda "lost" me

last night's episode was the best for sure but there was stuff i couldn't deal with... the mysterious kid apparition, the "smokey"-cam... it might be a side effect of (re)-watching season 1 right now, which is unfair, but—and I am a fan of latter-day lost—the show feels a little more hollow now, not as varied in its textures and moods as it used to be. it's all people running around intently saying cryptic shit to each other. everyone has the same self-important secret agent vibe.

i know the show has ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT in a lot of ways

im with you but this has been a problem for a couple seasons now hasnt it? so far this season isnt any worse than last season i dont think

maybe it's just the stark contrast of watching 4 eps of s1 last night then the new one at 2am :D

i know what you mean and i watched a shit load of s1 last night (on youtube!) but my only beef with last night's was the pace (felt like they were dragging things out and it was too slow moving for what was actually happening ie not much) and i wanted more reveals. Locke's flashalongs didn't do much for me and the Ben reveal could've been better - it kinda sucks for us to see his back turned when it's obvious from his voice that it's him so why not just get straight to it?). but i admit it's probably gonna be difficult for this show to satisfy me for a few more weeks yet.

i was also kinda amazed they're still throwing in shocking reveal shots of dead locke

now that he's buried maybe that'll end

i just don't see what they have to lose at this point by richard or smokey or ilana just spending a minute or so actually explaining WHO people are, WHAT they want and WHY instead of the vague cryptic shit. i'm enjoying the character interplay way more than the mystery/questions aspect and think the show can survive on the former primarily at this late a stage.

i'm wondering if Locke ever met Abbadon now (he was adamant to Helen that miracles don't exist but Abbadon had pointed out that his survival could be considered miraculous itself and you'd think that would've stuck). but if Abbadon hadn't been there to suggest the Walkabout then how did get to that.

richard doesn't know dick apparently

he don't know jack

richard has always been kind of hilariously confused or uninformed about stuff considering how long he's been there

his default expression is this sort of weird ambiguous wide-eyed surprise

The little crab scuttling over Locke's face was pretty creepy/effective.

Hoping that Alpert explains the significance of weirdly sequenced Raw Power LP.