Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

lostpedia is MAGICAL

er row nos not aisle numbers lol

well jack is 23 on jacob's wall and on the plane as well, so that's a good catch really!

the white and black rocks on the scale

loved this, took me straight to locke and walt on the beach playing backgammon

the idea of each Number representing a certain person has been a fan theory since season 1.

Here is the cave ceiling:

http://getlostpodcast.iimmgg.com/gallery/gaaa93d0bdd4ed31790231253080ed7f3/

Here is someone's deciphering of what's there:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showpost.php?p=17577708&postcount=2764

yeah i wasn't trying to pretend i was on some new shit... more asking what the previous theories re numbers and passengers were...

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on the wall:
TROUPE

love this retcon that the season 1 anagram names (Ethan Rom = Other Man, Gary Troup = Purgatory) were both pseudonyms.

this was such a fantastic episode - didn't feel like a single scene was wasted.

need to think through theories some more but noticed that Austen = not on the wall.

okay sorry someone else alr pointed that out. skim reading is not your friend on lost threads.

It's on the wall; we just didn't see it.

I'm thinking that choice #3--leave the island with me--entails killing all the other candidates first.

In the alt-timeline--things seem to be working out a lot better for the characters without the pressure of Jacob's influence, the island wanting stuff to happen, etc. But does that mean that whatever was important about the island is gone and the world is going to end or something?

The little boy actor resembled Jacob a lot. I'd say he's Jacob's ghost, appearing to MIB in an earlier form. Perhaps back when Smokey was human he knew Boy Jacob.

Leaving out Kate from the wall kind of annoys me--since we know Jacob touched her. Maybe she disappointed him by going against what he told her and continuing to steal stuff.

More and more it seems like Jacob's original list (the one used to yank people like Cindy from the beach) was a kind of rapture. Taking the "good people" to relative safety amongst the Others, and leaving the bad people to get ordered around by the "Candidates" and eventually killed by flaming arrows. The first we ever heard about Jacob was that Jack was not on his list--because he was on a different list.

Jacob often is associated with water-- both of his hideouts (the Foot and the cave) are right next to the ocean, we see him cooking fish, the healing water at the Temple.

When Ben summoned Smokey he had to drain the water first.

seems likely that a showdown is shaping up btw locke/sawyer and the rest of the gang, which is bad-ass

kid could be a young jacob couldnt he? i mean in terms of look/coloring--or also aaron--or... both

Do we know where Ben was at the time of the Incident? Was he still with the Others? Unless there was a cut scene of him being returned to Dharma and loaded onto the sub. Since he becomes a teacher in the alt-line, it could mean that Jughead didn't cause the island to sink in '77.

kid saying "know the rules, you can't kill him" was very similar to the ben/widmore confrontation. but was he talking about sawyer or jacob?

I wonder if Locke=4 on the wall was a Jacob fakeout move & Kate is actually #4.

great episode!

trying to correlate the names on the ceiling in this episode with "jacob's list" from the first few series is fun but essentially hopeless. if they had really known where they were going with the jacob character we should have seen him visit the characters in the flashbacks of the first 3 seasons rather than the last episode of season 5.

one thing that surprised me was that smokelocke had to check with sawyer if he could see the kid. i've always assumed that any apparitions on the island were somehow down to smokey but clearly not if smokey wasn't sure if he was seeing one! does this mean that christian is not a smokey apparition (what i always assumed) after all?

jacob's earlier list didn't have jack on it. so.

In "Par Avion", Mikhail states that Kate is not on the list because she is "flawed"; Sayid is not on the list because he is "weak and frightened"; and Locke is not on the list because he is angry.

lol

if they had really known where they were going with the jacob character we should have seen him visit the characters in the flashbacks of the first 3 seasons rather than the last episode of season 5.

Not sure about this. When have they ever revealed stuff earlier when they could wait to do so later? I think Jacob and the "candidate" thing have been in the planning all along.

Jacob's original list probably didn't have any of the "candidates" on it, since they were supposed to play out some drama on the island, proving their leadership, worthiness, etc.

And if Richard didn't know what Candidates were then I doubt Mikhail did.

sure i mean that that point in time it was ben who was supposed to be getting this info from jacob but its been revealed that he never even spoke to him so...

*at that

That dialogue between Jack and Dogen about why Dogen doesn't speak English (to put a distance between himself & those he gives orders to) is like training Jack to become some dude who orders people around by sending out lists from beneath a foot.

I think Jacob and the "candidate" thing have been in the planning all along.

why do you find it so hard to believe / why do you find it so easy etc

I did it weird there was no Kate on the wall, though she was on Jacob's Ankh list in the premiere.

Maybe all the candidate are male and the winner gets to breed with Queen Kate.

did no one else say--the stones on the scale maybe the stones in jacks pocket?

inside joke

No Alpert on the wall either maybe = Kate is the next Alpert = next Jacob gets to mate ETERNALLY with Queen Kate????

Just like to point out that the scene where the Stooges is playing was totally unrealistic. "Search and Destroy" is the first song on Raw Power, but the record was in the middle of the side not at the beginning.

My wife laughed at me when I pointed this out, but I know you guys will understand. :-)

dharma reissue has different track order

I wonder if that will ever be explained!

new major things we learned:

Smokey seems to be now "stuck" as Locke and monster mode (according to Ilana, who also knows about the temple and it would be nice if someone just asked her more questions)

that's it

a bunch of other stuff suggested but not confirmed as such. seems Ben never actually went to the island in alt world...which could in turn mean that Widmore is still on the island there.

The island in alt world is all blowed up though.

Widmore has gills in this timeline

NO ONE IN THAT UNIVERSE WILL EVER HEAR THAT WEIRDLY SEQUENCED COPY OF RAW POWER!

What do you guys thing the first song on the Dharma version is?

I think Dharma chose prog over punk

i'd say this was the first episode really obviously based on The Stand

kinda wishing now this thread was titled Lost Season 6: Look Out Honey Cuz I'm Using Technology

I liked the exchange between MIB and Sawyer in the cave about his choices:

Man-in-Locke: You can stay and protect the island.
Sawyer: From what?
Man-in-Locke: Nothing! Definitely not me! I mean, nobody! Nobody and that includes me. Now let's go kill some motherfuckers and destroy the island!

I was LOLing hardcore at Ben as a pissy middle-school history teacher.

loving posi-hurley

BTW I think the whole "alternate universe" thing is just preparation for a spin-off show where no one ever goes to the island, it's going to be all about relationships and human emotions and Jack & Kate's on-again, off-again romance and Locke learning to live as a handicapable man etc. without any lame old mystery or intrigue getting in the way.

i'm thinking smokey has escaped in the sideways timeline and everyone in the world is having their choices controlled by it

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incredibly displeased