Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

yeah def my fav so far

SAWYER IS A STOOGES FAN! I KNEW IT.

― scott seward, Tuesday, February 16, 2010 9:15 PM (51 minutes ago) Bookmark

Smokey Cam was awesome

really satisfying episode. the sideways-ben-john meeting was unsettling and bizarre, but in a good way.

yeah until ben kills him in the teacher's lounge

damn look how much better this tv show is when it focuses on a good character

no jack, no kate = my kind of lost

they make you eat your peas before you get your pudding. are the episodes actually good/bad/good/bad/etc or does it just feel that way.

Tonight was my first night to watch Lost on my new big LCD television. I'm still trying to get used to just how different television is in HD. Even Lost was unsettling in HD. Enjoyed this one much better than the last two. It seems like we're getting "Somewhere." After seeing Ben as a teacher are we to assume that everything that did happen on the island never happened in this new timeline?

is it significant that they didn't show kate's name on jacob's cave ceiling? she got a tap from him like the others, i believe.

no jack, no kate = my kind of lost

^^cosign times a million. when jack and kate are the focus of an episode, i find my enjoyment of the show detaches and becomes kind of meta, like "oh great, let's see what jack's crying about this week." but locke and ben have enough gravitas to make questionable writing seem really, really compelling. like ben's speech over locke's grave, that was awesome.

the numbers are back

i think ilana is/was jacob's wife

4 - Locke
8 - Reyes
15 - Ford
16 - Jarrah
23 - Shephard
42 - Kwon (could be either Jin or Sun)

And:

1. Stay until you're 'crossed out'.
2. Take over and become the new 'Jacob'.
3. Leave.

Also there is a creepy kid running around the island who is seemingly above Jacob and Smokey on the food chain, which is weird.

42 - Kwon (could be either Jin or Sun)

start of this season lax difference in names matters now?

http://i50.tinypic.com/351issw.png

l'il Jacob Locke is Aaron, i'in'e?

Is the kid above Jacob?

The numbers thing doesn't make any sense. Does that mean that Jacob, at some point, touched every name on that board, and eventually crossed everyone else out? Can people be crossed out before they arrive on the island? If Jacob likes those six numbers so damned much, why did he wasted everyone else's time?

Is the kid above Jacob?

I assume Smokey and Jacob are equivalent since they balance each other (like the white and black rocks on the scale), and the kid seemed like he was reminding Smokey what the rules were.

Does that mean that Jacob, at some point, touched every name on that board, and eventually crossed everyone else out?

he's been doing it for centuries and got down to these numbers and started broadcasting them?

really wanted to see henry gale or somebody up there

171 - Arzt

did anyone ever check what aisle numbers they were all sitting in on the plane? sure a lostpedia person must have done this...

http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Flight_815_seat_numbers

lostpedia is MAGICAL

er row nos not aisle numbers lol

well jack is 23 on jacob's wall and on the plane as well, so that's a good catch really!

the white and black rocks on the scale

loved this, took me straight to locke and walt on the beach playing backgammon

the idea of each Number representing a certain person has been a fan theory since season 1.

Here is the cave ceiling:

http://getlostpodcast.iimmgg.com/gallery/gaaa93d0bdd4ed31790231253080ed7f3/

Here is someone's deciphering of what's there:

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/vine/showpost.php?p=17577708&postcount=2764

yeah i wasn't trying to pretend i was on some new shit... more asking what the previous theories re numbers and passengers were...

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on the wall:
TROUPE

love this retcon that the season 1 anagram names (Ethan Rom = Other Man, Gary Troup = Purgatory) were both pseudonyms.

this was such a fantastic episode - didn't feel like a single scene was wasted.

need to think through theories some more but noticed that Austen = not on the wall.

okay sorry someone else alr pointed that out. skim reading is not your friend on lost threads.

It's on the wall; we just didn't see it.

I'm thinking that choice #3--leave the island with me--entails killing all the other candidates first.

In the alt-timeline--things seem to be working out a lot better for the characters without the pressure of Jacob's influence, the island wanting stuff to happen, etc. But does that mean that whatever was important about the island is gone and the world is going to end or something?

The little boy actor resembled Jacob a lot. I'd say he's Jacob's ghost, appearing to MIB in an earlier form. Perhaps back when Smokey was human he knew Boy Jacob.

Leaving out Kate from the wall kind of annoys me--since we know Jacob touched her. Maybe she disappointed him by going against what he told her and continuing to steal stuff.

More and more it seems like Jacob's original list (the one used to yank people like Cindy from the beach) was a kind of rapture. Taking the "good people" to relative safety amongst the Others, and leaving the bad people to get ordered around by the "Candidates" and eventually killed by flaming arrows. The first we ever heard about Jacob was that Jack was not on his list--because he was on a different list.

Jacob often is associated with water-- both of his hideouts (the Foot and the cave) are right next to the ocean, we see him cooking fish, the healing water at the Temple.

When Ben summoned Smokey he had to drain the water first.

seems likely that a showdown is shaping up btw locke/sawyer and the rest of the gang, which is bad-ass

kid could be a young jacob couldnt he? i mean in terms of look/coloring--or also aaron--or... both

Do we know where Ben was at the time of the Incident? Was he still with the Others? Unless there was a cut scene of him being returned to Dharma and loaded onto the sub. Since he becomes a teacher in the alt-line, it could mean that Jughead didn't cause the island to sink in '77.

kid saying "know the rules, you can't kill him" was very similar to the ben/widmore confrontation. but was he talking about sawyer or jacob?

I wonder if Locke=4 on the wall was a Jacob fakeout move & Kate is actually #4.

great episode!

trying to correlate the names on the ceiling in this episode with "jacob's list" from the first few series is fun but essentially hopeless. if they had really known where they were going with the jacob character we should have seen him visit the characters in the flashbacks of the first 3 seasons rather than the last episode of season 5.

one thing that surprised me was that smokelocke had to check with sawyer if he could see the kid. i've always assumed that any apparitions on the island were somehow down to smokey but clearly not if smokey wasn't sure if he was seeing one! does this mean that christian is not a smokey apparition (what i always assumed) after all?

jacob's earlier list didn't have jack on it. so.

In "Par Avion", Mikhail states that Kate is not on the list because she is "flawed"; Sayid is not on the list because he is "weak and frightened"; and Locke is not on the list because he is angry.

lol

if they had really known where they were going with the jacob character we should have seen him visit the characters in the flashbacks of the first 3 seasons rather than the last episode of season 5.

Not sure about this. When have they ever revealed stuff earlier when they could wait to do so later? I think Jacob and the "candidate" thing have been in the planning all along.

Jacob's original list probably didn't have any of the "candidates" on it, since they were supposed to play out some drama on the island, proving their leadership, worthiness, etc.

And if Richard didn't know what Candidates were then I doubt Mikhail did.

sure i mean that that point in time it was ben who was supposed to be getting this info from jacob but its been revealed that he never even spoke to him so...

*at that

That dialogue between Jack and Dogen about why Dogen doesn't speak English (to put a distance between himself & those he gives orders to) is like training Jack to become some dude who orders people around by sending out lists from beneath a foot.

I think Jacob and the "candidate" thing have been in the planning all along.

why do you find it so hard to believe / why do you find it so easy etc