Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

I don't think Jacob's agenda for the Ajira folk is to save himself, but permanently contain MIB - in the alt the island's underwater, remember. I think the alt is the natural resolution of the narrative rather than something that has to be combined with the main reality.

You'd think that a reality could be picked to move to in which the island never existed and MIB never posed a threat (the island might be like Borges' aleph - a point from which all other times and places can be seen). But that assumes that the alt is 'alternate' - and in a show in which 'whatever happens happens' the alt could be a successfully rewritten timeline.

My initial reaction to you bringing Faraday back is 'no way are they bringing Faraday back' - I have nothing to base it on other than the feeling like Faraday's story's done. I think there are so many plates spinning now ... but it does make me think of something.

Faraday dies in 1977; MIB had access to his memories (reminds me of Miles accessing the memories of the dead) for all that time, I wonder if that could have affected his attempting a 'loophole'. It's a long shot but a fun idea.

Roll on tomorrow's ep because for pedantic bastards like me there was precious little to chew on with this last one.

The idea of containment got me thinking - probably not a coincidence that the death of Jacob happens at the same time the Swan Station and hatch is wiped out from the timeline. Probably just a thematic tie-in, but the whole Hatch creation to prevent the destructive force of the underground energy well from destroying the island (which it does in the revised '77, thanks to Jack and co.) parallels the imprisonment and release of Jacob's enemy. I doubt they were really considering it in early season 3, but it does fit nicely with the Hatch energy being released in the S2 finale as well.

seems like the 815ers coming back on ajira is the way they are going to reconcile the timelines

faraday will show up and convince them somehow...to go the island...again...for the third time

then the 2007 stuff will somehow lead them back to the explosion, with kate in the tree, etc

then they will save jacob?

― sir ilx-a-lot (cutty), Monday, February 15, 2010 9:04 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

wait

what

if i'm reading that right it's just wrong on so many levels

Yeah that doesn't ring true for me.

They aren't going to reconcile the timelines, that would be ridiculous even by Lost standards. Think what they might end up doing is giving everyone a really shit ending in the alternate timeline (like, everyone dies or gets banged up or something) to show that the crash was the best thing to have happened to them. They've already hinted at this by having Man In Black say that Locke was the only one who realised how worthless his home life was.

Whether there's an alternate timeline Faraday depends on whether Ellie got off the island after the bomb blast (my guess = no) so the only way we'd see him would be in flashbacks or in some kind of Desmond constant timeflash way. I hope he turns up in some capacity just because I like him.

im MUCH preferring the los angeles timeline

WE SHALL SEE

please, everyone here is speculating there asses off

i think reconciliation of the timelines is the only way

They aren't going to reconcile the timelines, that would be ridiculous even by Lost standards. Think what they might end up doing is giving everyone a really shit ending in the alternate timeline (like, everyone dies or gets banged up or something) to show that the crash was the best thing to have happened to them. They've already hinted at this by having Man In Black say that Locke was the only one who realised how worthless his home life was.

― Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Tuesday, February 16, 2010 4:52 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

how is this less ridiculous than reconciliation? everyone has a shitty life in the alternate timeline, and... thats all folks?

yeah that's like ending the show with a resounding sigh

or a fart from dead locke's corpse

..emitting a tiny cloud of black ectoplasm

ya that would be... not only a bummer, but kinda amazingly smug on the writers' part too

some kind of timeline reconciliation involving desmond and daniel could be great. doing just this alt-timeline without some kind of convergence with 2007 just doesn't seem quite right. major credibility gamble (idk if that really matters anymore tho) either way really.

it would be a major narrative sin to introduce it and then not connect it to the rest of the series

i think it would be pretty terrible, especially after there was a whole season about how their post-island lives sucked and they shoulda gone back to the island. not exactly the same thing but it would feel tired.

this dude's take on possibly converging timelines is the most convincing prediction I've encountered thusfar.

Well the alternative timeline can't actually hold up for long because there's no Jack or Juliet to go back in time and blow up the atomic bomb that stops the plane from crashing and creates the alternate timeline. They'll have to address that in some way, the alternative reality could actually collapse if there isn't some Faraday/Alpert/Jacob/Desmond/Wizard of Oz figure to right it.

I'm not sure it'll actually converge with the existing timeline we're seeing on the Island though.

you already said that

say it again

i bet you six million dollars it will converge in some way

one of the obstacles is the 3 year gap between the alt line and the island as we're now seeing it. they could go a weird route where everyone from 815 ends up dead anyway by 2007. this would be simpler than trying to merge the lines but maybe less satisfying.

giving them the benefit of the doubt like i did Ronald D Moore (yeah and look how that worked out ha ha).

There's been enough unsubtle hinting from Cuse and Lindelof that there be a merge of some kind - they said this off the bat so to assuage viewer fears that the sideways timeline wouldn't go anywhere or that the existing continuity would be overwritten or erased.

honestly they can do what they want with the timelines just don't give us another episode as crappy as last week's

watched Tabula Rasa again last night and Kate is actually great in it

season 1 Kate was so awesome. I think her character started to suck around the time of the episode w/ the horse. always the goddamn horse.

is that the toy plane episode?

You won't be saying that when the horse magically stops the bomb from ever blowing up.

or when the horse singlehoofedly reconciles the timelines

not the toy plane one. its episode 3 where she's living on that farm in the outback.

The horse will save everyone by pushing the frozen donkey wheel.

jacob will ride across the sky on the horse imo

was weird seeing the trailer for the The Forgotten last week which stars Bernard and Alex Linus/Rousseau

at the time, i thought the toy plane one was just a crappy episode but i still liked kate, but the horse episode had all the stuff with sawyer and jack, and kate crying for no reason, which was when i thought yeah fuck off.

If the timelines do converge, Adam and Eve are going to be alternate timeline Jack and Kate, aren't they?

They aren't going to reconcile the timelines, that would be ridiculous even by Lost standards.

sup frackles

Sturridge has gone to Chelsea.

cutty i just want to say i appreciate your zero-tolerance-for-shit-you-disagree-with attitude on this thread, there are things to fuck around about on the internet, and lost is not one of them

no, i have zero tolerance for people showing zero tolerance for lost theories

i haven't pooped on anyone, just part of the dicussion. i speculated upthread and some dude and matt DC are like NO WAY MAN NEVER EVER WHAT

haha

srsly though the idea that they wouldn't resolve the new timeline w/ the others is batshit from a production cost-benefit analysis point of view imo.

ya i mean, would everything just end badly followed by a title card saying 'SEE?'

i want lost to end like the clue movie

timelines bleeding into each other must involve smokemonster whizzing along the Sunset Strip or this show is for shit

Timelines bleeding into each other sounds more convincing than Faraday sending them all back to magically make everything how it was supposed to be. Might explain Hurley's conversations with dead people.

I still want them to wrap up with a "th-th-th-that's all, folks!"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/WilliamCrump63/ThatsAllFolks.jpg