The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

What airline was it and have they gone under? :-)

I have spent my library loyalty card on ILX choice Kings and Queen. Never got it out as it didn't look all that to me.

Shame that this thread can't be opened up...ws looking forward to try and skim through 2500 posts of bile heated debate...serves me right for reading ilx on an ancient thing.

it's great. you missed out!

You missed about 2000 posts of indie fuckwits arguing aver the merits of Sofia Coppola and Cameron Crowe, plus a bewildering amount of acronyms.

i meant he missed out on Kings and a Queen

rescreened all the real girls cause of this poll. didnt like it now as much as i liked it at 19 when i first saw it, despite the fact that the relationship resonated w/ me a lot more this time around (probably because, uh, i have been in relationships now, whereas i hadnt at 19). btw. what seems to be DGGs natural antipathy for the character and zooey deschanels inability to act like anything but a flighty teenager (which i guess she was), the movie seems to end up planted pretty squarely on the "side" of paul schneider--understandable i guess since hes the main character, but also kind of unfortunate since zooey surely has more going on than just she fucked some guy at a party.

i did dig the hal-hartley-stoned-vibe as joe put it. dunno, felt like it wandered up a lot of alleys and then turned around--you never learn anything about any of the characters, really.

Enjoying Kings and Queen at the mo'. Halfway through the DVD, at two and half hours I am easily distracted at home, really need the dark box for the longer stuff - saw the interview before starting on the film and the guy sure likes his Bergman, and lots of things, but, I'll say it again...guy sure likes his Bergman. But maybe without the maddening cruelty he was so fond of in the early 70s.

Thanks ILX.

BTW the special features on the Zodiac blu-ray, which include EXTENSIVE interviews both with the actual cops from each jurisdiction, and the two surviving victims, are absolutely amazing. Michael Mageau, the dude who was shot in the opening scene, is just an absolute mess; while Bryan Hartnell, the dude stabbed at the lake, is a successful lawyer. In one segment, Hartnell goes to look at evidence from the crime scene -- including his car door with the Zodiac writing on it -- for the first time in 40 years. It's really something else.

― El Poopo Loco (Pancakes Hackman), Thursday, February 11, 2010 2:07 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

thx 4 this, i took the dvd out of my library & these were v. compelling

Great reading and graphics!

Like coming to a party weeks later and saying "hi" to empty air, my third batch of reactions:

Munich: Loved this, but its limits are those of the audience it hopes to persuade, the moral compass of a powerful country (or two) in which terrorism is on an entirely different moral plane than war.
Miami Vice: Disliked Heat the first time too, so I'll give this another try.
Before Sunset: Best one-day's-urgent-romantic-chemistry since The Clock, and I didn't like Before Sunrise. (My fifth vote.)
Punch-Drunk Love: Loved so much of this, but found her love for him too good to be true, and the memorable flourishes too disconnected from that mystery.
Eastern Promises: Great, but too short, with unsatisfying ending.
I'm Not There: As far as films it'd take a Greil Marcus audio commentary for me to get through (again), I prefer Masked & Anonymous.
The 40 Year-Old Virgin: Love the drunk driving scene, but this has the cheesy unreality of something that should have been more outrageous.
Kill Bill: Vol. 2: I didn't like Vol. 1, for the plot.
Best In Show: Might hold up less well after a decade of mock-doc, but the tone here is so much more interesting than what it spawned. (Sixth vote.)
Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy: Classic one-fourth-of-a-movie trapped in too-lazy-for-actual-satire Ted Baxter-meets-China Syndrome meta-scare-quotes-ironic riffing bonanza.
Gosford Park: Only remember being bored, but it's Altman, so I'm open.
The Hurt Locker: Great movie, also left off my list for its seeming okay-ness with a limited American view, where Generation Kill was so much more subtly damning of invaders.
The Dark Knight: Batman Begins was more fun.
The Bourne Identity: At some point this became less about its premise than the same old action, which was a loss: Couldn't they have had a love scene in which Damon wasn't sure if his romantic techniques were pre-programmed too?
A Serious Man: Great, but still felt a little like an idea playing itself out.
24 Hour Party People: Most convincing club atmosphere since Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me, but fizzled story-wise.
A History of Violence: Too short again, with comic-booky ending, but still good.
Brokeback Mountain: The audience's embrace was an acknowledgment that true love is sexual, the longing all the more resonant for being forbidden. And moving because the love, heat, and forgoing of happiness are believable in these characters. (Seventh vote.)
Bad Santa: Classic Christmas, will watch again.
The Bourne Supremacy: And no Casino Royale? I watched again, and loved the shots of those massive apartment buildings in Russia, and the impression his girlfriend left as someone who would guide his conscience, but there's still less at stake here than there should be for a movie on this list: It's fun to watch Bourne calculate the times of arriving trains rather than don a disguise or start shooting, but doesn't he owe the girl whose parents he killed more than the truth? (Though that actress was wonderful.)
Rachel Getting Married: A little too idealized a wedding to be crashed in a little too perfectly painful a way, but I enjoyed watching the train wreck more as a result, probably.
The New World: Only retain the impression of the cold and hunger, but will watch again.
Kill Bill Vol. 1: The sword on the plane signals what this was about: Taking our minds off "everything else."
Shaun of the Dead: Best buddy movie, zombie movie, and Simon Pegg in one, where all of those categories had competition.
O Brother, Where Art Thou?: Classic Clooney and soundtrack, but a little thin as American, not to mention African American, myth-making.
American Psycho: Love him, but it felt late for adaptation, and why doesn't anyone in his building call the cops? Plus I feel sorry for any musicians on the soundtrack.
Superbad: Where these guys finally master the right balance of naturalism and slapstick. (Eighth vote.)
The Departed: The kink and suspense don't redeem genre cliches, or make Leo credible. (Why is he Scorsese's star again?) But I can't deny that it was fun to see a halfway-decent Scorsese.
Donnie Darko: Gone from memory, will give it another chance.
The Incredibles: This had a Spy Kids vibe, where this grownup 7-year-old prefers serious superhero stories.
Cache: Like A Serious Man, seemed like an idea contorting experience or story to its whim, which is interesting and compelling, but less so than 40 other movies.
Adaptation: Hard to make great cinema about writing, but my favorite twofer-lead since Dead Ringers.
Memento: I feel this way all the time. (Ninth vote.)
Ghost World: A snob-comedy harbinger, boring and bored. OTM above about Happiness being more like a Clowes cartoon, plus actually funny.
Lost in Translation: The loneliness of being too cool for the room, plus an inexplicable night out with actual Japanese people (the only part I liked).
In the Mood for Love: Fell asleep, will give it another shot.
Inland Empire: More a gallery of Lynch-isms than a movie, but I'll try not to fast-forward next time.
Grizzly Man: Great, but so dismissive toward the power of its source material and the bears themselves, and so dependent on that material to work the audience's dread center, that it distances itself from its subject to the point of ironic superiority--and this from the guy in The Burden of Dreams.
The Royal Tenenbaums: Laugh-out-loud funny even on third viewing, but without quite enough story to make my 40.
City of God: Great story, stylized slightly past the point where it could produce real pain or terror, where going for the feel and look of the first half hour of De Palma's Scarface might have put this in the class of The Wire.
Zodiac: Absorbing, will re-rent given the love here.
There Will Be Blood: Makes up for the big flaw of Magnolia, a cluelessness with children, and matches its soundtrack, so maybe our oil man should have broken into song at the end. (10th vote.)
No Country For Old Men: Death walks the earth, but in a performance so entertaining I don't quite care that it makes actual drug-war history a dream. (11th vote.)
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind: The problem with Charlie Kaufman films is that when you make a movie about the idea of a thing rather than the thing itself, the audience doesn't get to experience the thing in the same visceral way that the characters do, or we with the characters in other movies. So these films operate at an amused remove from the heart that only Synecdoche, New York really really bridged, because that guy's pain is both painful and funny, rather than just painful.
Children of Men: Great cast, a number of gripping set pieces, Clive Owen looking good, and some memorable distopian-totalitarian atmosphere (Costa-Gavras meets George Romero?), but the central conceit that children are what keeps humanity decent is a tough enough sell without the scene where everyone puts down his/her gun to let the baby pass, and otherwise the balance of casual-terror realism and shaky-camera action seems distasteful or at least misguided in a movie against violence, where the combo made sense in, say, Rambo. And what exactly are the motives of the revolutionary terrorists again, except to reaffirm that even activists go to the dogs without hope?
Mulholland Dr: Glad to see this at No. 1, since I would have placed it there after watching it again. Some kind of Exhibit A for what movies do. Favorite touch: The cowboy walking through the background at the party in the second half. (12th vote.)

you could prob just temporarily turn off images in your browser settings & then reload the page, if you want to read all the comments. i hate it when i'd like to catch up on the ilm polls but there are literally 100 youtube embeds

even with images off this page is a mofo

wish this had been nommed:

http://www.castellolopesmultimedia.com/passatempos/0710_julgamento_visao/julgamento_top.jpg

jugallomento

took a flyer on a $5 used copy of "children of men" today. you were all right, i was wrong, etc.

any chance you could put the rest of the list up soon?

yay strongo!

Ancient news, I know, but I finally got some comments posted on my site for the list I submitted.

so I've been going through the stuff on this list that my wife and I haven't seen (with some exceptions, there's some garbage I just WILL NOT sit through). To-date:

Pan's Labyrinth - pretty good, altho FASCISTS ARE BAD was hammered home a bit much and as usual I found the trope of the film opening with the main character's death to be boring/tiresome. design of the fantasy sequences and the retention of a very visceral level of horror throughout was v. nice and welcome.
Brokeback Mountain - straight garbage. Ang Lee is a terrible director.
The Host - fun! But perhaps overlong long and belabored and not sure how thrilled I was at having so many major plot points left unresolved. great monster, great kids.

Ang Lee is a pretty unremarkable director, that's true.

Jake G was pretty good in it, better than Heath's I R STOICALLY REPRESSED routine

What did you find good about Jake in that film? I thought he was thoroughly unconvincing and I generally like the guy.

- his horndog eagerness when Heath tells him he's leaving his wife
- the pained expression on his aged & mustachio-ed face when they're washing dishes in the river
- his exchanges with Ann Hathaway (who is a terrible actress btw, wtf was she doing in this)

I agree w/Morbius that the shouty monologue at the end was too over-the-top tho.

"- the pained expression on his aged & mustachio-ed face when they're washing dishes in the river"

story of my life

Great Job Omar! http://i.imgur.com/Y2c5o.gif

Thanx! http://smileys.emoticonsonly.com/emoticons/h/heart_eyes-2949.gif

Still can't believe this won:
http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww232/clobberthesaurus/DUMPLINGS!.gif

Oh darn it.

echoing PTT here: just skimmed this over the last few days, gr8 job!

has ILX done any polls like this for other decades?

there was a 30s poll i think

or maybe the 40s

POLL RESULTS: Top 100 Films of the 1980s

Jake G was pretty good in it, better than Heath's I R STOICALLY REPRESSED routine

so utterly rong

the other polls:

It's Not All Black and White: ILX's Top 75 Films of the 1940s

REVEALED-THE ILX TOP 75 FILMS OF THE 1950s

REVEALED: THE ILX TOP 100 FILMS OF THE 1960s IN CINERAMA!

*** ILE Best Films of the 1970s REVEALED ***

POLL RESULTS: TOP 100 FILMS OF THE 1990's

ILX Top Films of 2000-04 RESULTS (yes, really)

lmao that 70's one is only 333 messages... what a different ILX we live in from just 5 years ago

Can't remember which one of those reveal threads it was that I would've come close to getting SB'd off ILX if SBs existed then.

when did enter the void come out? best film of the last 10 years imo.

oh wtf, I just watched that last night. synchronicity.

I disagree strongly that it's the best film of the last ten years, but it definitely has some merits. And demerits.

definitely, but the merits are so strong i didnt care about the demerits (it could do with some editing near the end for one thing, but i like the way it makes you endure it). i think when i watched it i was just in awe for most of it. maybe the last new film i saw when i left the cinema thinking 'fuck how brilliant was that'.

Some amazing visual techniques and great special effects in service of a bad story, horrible characters, and a really base level of entertainment. It's a Michael Bay movie.

for a michael bay film, its pretty entrancing

vile.

never understood when ppl say they dont like a film as the characters were unlikeable. that doesnt mean its a bad film! everyone in the last fast and furious was more worthy of contempt than this lot. and in a mainstream film i expect them, in fact i think they SHOULD be likeable, in a film like enter the void, its a bit more permissable for them to be morally questionable

It's not that they're unlikeable or morally questionable. It's that they're boring clichés that have no resonance whatsoever.

It doesn't help when he's having sex with his friend's mom and then it cuts to him as a kid in the bath with his own mom and it's all DO U SEE

lol

i am prepared to take a loss in characterisation for interesting visuals and general mood/ambience etc

but then i liked mary antoinette

that was a better movie!

But yeah, all the characters are pretty much cutouts and the absence of actual connection between the actors is substituted with repetition to make you "get" the themes

All of which I would have been much more forgiving towards if it had been 80 minutes or so. The length was punishing and for every fantastic visual there'd be some dialogue that came along and ruined it. Like a Michael Bay film.

I liked Marie Antoinette! And I think it had a lot more interesting characters.

things I liked about the film:
- general premise, the exploration of dying through this particular character
- most of the visuals
- the first person nature
- some of the speculative narrative bits, including remembrances in different contexts

things I disliked:
- overused flyover ambiance that I thought would play better when I saw a HD version but still looked fuzzy and indistinct
- flat characters
- overstylizing in supposedly unstyled scenes. understylizing in scenes that were supposed to be highly stylized
- repetition of themes as DO YOU SEE-style revelations. if he said to his sister one more time that he'd never leave her, or if that truck ran into a car one more time...
- crazy sex, death, and birth themes just to make a point that this movie is about ~life~

Meh. I was told the credit sequence and wasn't really impressed by THOSE...

I don't have time to make it thru the whole thread right now; did Mysterious Skin make it?

No, unless I scrolled past it in the screencaps thread.

It's a shame. Damn shame.

I still liked this list though.

Xxp LOL my above post was supposed to read "...the credit sequnce was the best part and wasn't really etc etc"