2008 Primaries Thread 3: The Rejecting and Denouncening

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> Pols make compromises, we don't have to.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oilyrags, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 19:45 (eighteen years ago)

Morbius = Rorschach

Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 19:46 (eighteen years ago)

lol ron paul

balls, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

Back off, kiddies, some news:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080402/ap_on_el_pr/obama_gore

suzy, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 19:47 (eighteen years ago)

yeah i figured he'd announce something to that effect. good news inasmuch as it's symbolically important & maybe gore might actually do some stuff if they let him.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 19:49 (eighteen years ago)

http://a166.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/107/l_9e746868d7c9e6efda4aff9f1cf0848d.gif

dan m, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 21:42 (eighteen years ago)

i'm with the cockburn stuff to some degree before the "perceived injustice," which is a really fucking close/literal reading of one section of that speech that manages to whiff on all the rest. does he really think that obama doesn't believe that the white majority has executed injustices upon underclasses? is he really going to argue obama on that?

btw while yeah morbs is one-note in these threads it's totally urgent & key to get info on where folks get their money, possible hypocrisy, etc even if i do wanna have their babies.

YGS, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 23:29 (eighteen years ago)

HOOS, you, blount and eth can always go back to HS.

-- Dr Morbius, Wednesday, April 2, 2008 3:26 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Link

if you hate everybody who posts so much why do you open the fucking thread

and what, Wednesday, 2 April 2008 23:32 (eighteen years ago)

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/04/quinnipiac_hillary_ahead_by_ni.php

Florida
Clinton (D) 44%, McCain (R) 42%
McCain (R) 46%, Obama (D) 37%

Ohio
Clinton (D) 48%, McCain (R) 39%
Obama (D) 43%, McCain (R) 42%

Pennsylvania
Clinton (D) 48%, McCain (R) 40%
Obama (D) 43%, McCain (R) 39%

Hi dere President McCain.

31g, Thursday, 3 April 2008 00:13 (eighteen years ago)

lol balls has a nation sub

jhøshea, Thursday, 3 April 2008 00:16 (eighteen years ago)

all three of those are the sites of hotly contested Dem primaries where clinton led, and where 50% of democrats have just come out of (or are about to enter) the primaries and won't exactly have rallied (yet) around the "other guy/girl".

sean gramophone, Thursday, 3 April 2008 00:30 (eighteen years ago)

Except for Florida.

The thing is that the OH and PA gap could be largely due to racism, and that's not going to go away.

31g, Thursday, 3 April 2008 00:34 (eighteen years ago)

Ladies & gentlemen, Jimmy Carter:

We are very interested in the primaries. Don’t forget that Obama won in my state of Georgia. My town which is home to 625 people is for Obama, my children and their spouses are pro- Obama. My grandchildren are also pro- Obama. As a Super Delegate, I would not disclose who I am rooting for but I leave you to make that guess.

http://www.thisdayonline.com/nview.php?id=107611&printer_friendly=1

elmo argonaut, Thursday, 3 April 2008 13:11 (eighteen years ago)

http://i30.tinypic.com/2hmd8wo.jpg

lol drudge treating hillarys behind closed doors assertion that obama cant win as fact - i guess weve entered the g.e. section of our programing

jhøshea, Thursday, 3 April 2008 14:45 (eighteen years ago)

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/17235/thumbs/s-MCCAINSWIFE-large.jpg

Mark Clemente, Thursday, 3 April 2008 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

(was this posted before?)

Mark Clemente, Thursday, 3 April 2008 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

To me the Drudge headline is just saying that Hillary drawing a line and saying that these two are not going to be on a ticket together.

Eazy, Thursday, 3 April 2008 16:10 (eighteen years ago)

It isn't. Have you read the article that Drudge headline links to?

StanM, Thursday, 3 April 2008 16:13 (eighteen years ago)

It's really simple: Hillary CAN'T quit.

http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/2008/04/02/why-hillary-wont-quit/

StanM, Thursday, 3 April 2008 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

Interesting, Stan. I had wondered about that. It says something for her audacity but not much for her judgment.

Michael White, Thursday, 3 April 2008 16:34 (eighteen years ago)

which "actual results" has the Saint achieved in the Senate? (not the ones he's "misspoken" about)

You know, this "saint" business is unfair to this thread - there is a lot of bizarre & irritating (and counterproductive) rhetoric online about Obama that merits the "you're trying to canonize a dude who's running for president" charge but this thread isn't guilty, nor are the Obama partisans on it. Not to kiss everybody's ass or nothin but the stuff ppl say about Obama on this thread sounds clear-headed to me - sure people support him and can even be said to believe in him but I don't hear much "He Is The Candidate Of Hope" stuff on ILE. (And thank God, 'cause that shit is a huge turnoff, though that's neither here nor there.)

J0hn D., Thursday, 3 April 2008 16:44 (eighteen years ago)

OTM

Hurting 2, Thursday, 3 April 2008 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

I'm always a little wary of reducing a human being to a mere epither, anyway.

Michael White, Thursday, 3 April 2008 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

like "the chick" or "the black one"?

Oilyrags, Thursday, 3 April 2008 16:57 (eighteen years ago)

or "the anti-christ"?

Aimless, Thursday, 3 April 2008 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

Anyway Saint is McCain's nickname. Obama is the Messiah.

President Keyes, Thursday, 3 April 2008 19:12 (eighteen years ago)

Thank you for clearing that up, President Keyes.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 3 April 2008 19:16 (eighteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 5,930 for "saint mccain". (0.30 seconds)

President Keyes, Thursday, 3 April 2008 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008804030466

HI DERE, Thursday, 3 April 2008 20:01 (eighteen years ago)

OMG ultimate mega-LOL

J0hn D., Thursday, 3 April 2008 20:02 (eighteen years ago)

I stole that from the DMB thread on ILM but it does sort of show a fundamental understanding of America on the part of the Obama campaign that seems to be missing from the Clinton campaign.

HI DERE, Thursday, 3 April 2008 20:04 (eighteen years ago)

Dave Matthews vs. Fleetwood Mac? I may have to change my vote.

xpost

lolhipsterelistist

Oilyrags, Thursday, 3 April 2008 20:06 (eighteen years ago)

between this and his bowling score my faith has been shaken.

Cosmo Vitelli, Thursday, 3 April 2008 20:11 (eighteen years ago)

THAT WAS ONLY 7 FRAMES GOD

gff, Thursday, 3 April 2008 20:12 (eighteen years ago)

he couldn't even finish his game? that doesn't bode well.

Cosmo Vitelli, Thursday, 3 April 2008 20:18 (eighteen years ago)

what kind of world has this become, where i can even crack a smile over a bunch of kids choosing DM fucking B over bill clinton?

gff, Thursday, 3 April 2008 20:20 (eighteen years ago)

one sweet world.

Cosmo Vitelli, Thursday, 3 April 2008 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

i think that's a DMB reference, if ben and jerry's is correct.

Cosmo Vitelli, Thursday, 3 April 2008 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXNBtj5g930

gabbneb, Thursday, 3 April 2008 20:24 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/04/02/BAVNVU2PJ.DTL

Michael White, Thursday, 3 April 2008 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

"Most of the blue-collar folks that knew they needed a president were for (Kennedy), and most of the university students who wanted a feeling for change were for McCarthy, and they thought he had a purer position on the Vietnam War."

guys this is kind of an interesting point

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 3 April 2008 22:52 (eighteen years ago)

i suppose the key difference is that nixon was rolling into the tail end of a painful dem presidency whereas mccain is rolling into the tail end of a painful repub presidency?

i dunno. when you put wright and the flag pin and michelle o's comments all in a line , and then put that next to DECORATED WAR HERO JOHN MCCAIN, i think maybe a lot of middle americans might have o doubts?

maybe i'm getting em too. gah.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 3 April 2008 23:00 (eighteen years ago)

It's too early to predict whether a slowly disintegrating Iraq and the economy will influence voting patterns. Chances are the Silent Majority don't give a fuck about the declassified John Yoo memos.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 3 April 2008 23:05 (eighteen years ago)

hoos, that's like the third time this month i've seen you give mccain props, wtf

omar little, Thursday, 3 April 2008 23:11 (eighteen years ago)

i dunno man he's just...one of my biggest criticisms of bushco has been that they're sending dudes off to fight in war, and they've spent their whole careers behind desks avoiding wars. mccain at least has been in conflict and would think a helluva lot harder about sending kids with guns somewhere.

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 3 April 2008 23:14 (eighteen years ago)

Look there's no doubt that hoos's formulation will be the case for SOME Americans, even A LOT of Americans. The question is just how many.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 3 April 2008 23:14 (eighteen years ago)

He would think a lot harder and come up with the answer that "Regretfully, my friends, we must start sending our kids with guns somewhere."

xpost

Clay, Thursday, 3 April 2008 23:15 (eighteen years ago)

yeah if every american has hoos' thought process (god forbid), we're fucked. i mean, no offense hoos.

omar little, Thursday, 3 April 2008 23:18 (eighteen years ago)

though you're probably just playing devil's advocate

omar little, Thursday, 3 April 2008 23:19 (eighteen years ago)

"Regretfully, my friends, we must lower taxes on capital gains and further gut the social safety net."

Oilyrags, Thursday, 3 April 2008 23:21 (eighteen years ago)


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