The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

s1ocki, did you not like lady vengeance?

cuz I can't post about it without you following on w/ "it sucked!"

and fwiw as far as my limited exposure to intelligence industry types seems smart high school jock is not an unusual irl type

I used to be in a band w/two dudes from the CIA, no joke, and they were . . . not this.

cuz I can't post about it without you following on w/ "it sucked!"

― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Friday, February 12, 2010 11:07 AM (14 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

my actual point is that i do think more than "10 people" saw it as it was the follow-up to a super-popular movie. sorry i just needed to twist the knife there

after "thirst" i really had to just completely wash my hands of that guy.

I used to be in a band w/two dudes from the CIA

hope you did a cover of "CIA man"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW9cCWm53H4

The film would have actually been more interesting to me if it had pursued the religious angle MORE

i kind of agree w/ this, but i still love the movie pretty much unreservedly

i think we can all agree (well except u i guess) that there is obviously a deliberate mythical undercurrent to the movie (look at the way every animal in the movie nuzzles up to clive owen - great touch). what i think we're disagreeing on is whether that takes away from the film. imo it IS the film.

― snoocki (s1ocki), Friday, February 12, 2010 10:05 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

tbh i'd completely forgotten about those animally details! the "mythic" elements and the "ideological" ones kind of run together in my head (omg are they the same thing?!?!) like the celebrity cult around 'baby diego', the hippie midwife's half-assed hinduism, the way it lingers on all the european cultural wreckage stored up in those rooms in the refugee camp, the backstory about raiding the continent to save its artwork -- basically, all the stuff we're shown about what people believe, why they believe it, was all really resonant and amazing to me.

i don't remember, does anyone use the word 'miracle'?

s1ocki I think you're the one underestimating how many ppl actually liked lady vengeance

imdb:
oldboy 8.3/10
lady vengeance 7.7/10

metacritic:
oldboy 74 metascore, 8.4 user score
lady vengeance 75 metascore, 7.6 user score

you act like lady vengeance was ishtar

low ranking might be due to lady vengeance/mr vengeance vote splitting tbh

should have just nominated "sympathy for mr & mrs vengeance"

it's "ms" you sexist bastid

oldboy has higher highs but lady vengeance is more consistent - it doesn't have the same 3rd act problems that oldboy does

i know im being a dick by just saying "it sucks" but i really can't remember anything about it except for a couple fragmented images and the bad aftertaste

s'alright yer still a bro

if ppl didn't weigh lady vengeance down with expectations like FOLLOWUP TO OLDBOY OMG and just said ok lemme check out this freaky black comedy they might enjoy it more

always hoping its rep grows with time

CoM's birth scene, even more than the car attack, raised "How'd the effects work in that" more than kept me in thrall emotionally.

i hope i grow to love and accept it one day like a wayward child xp

CoM doesn't really strike me as allegorical as basically mechanical, as in, ok, let's say female fertility left the planet, and no one knew why? what would happen? and then, with one woman, it came back? how would that go.

OTM

CoM's birth scene, even more than the car attack, raised "How'd the effects work in that" more than kept me in thrall emotionally.

― Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Friday, February 12, 2010 11:25 AM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ya to me scenes like that (and the escape-the-farm scene) were the real centerpieces

Really enjoyed this thread btw! Wish i had been paying attention enough before to have voted.

The "action" scenes in CofM are incredible, and much for the same reasons the sex scenes in y tu mama are.

blood on the lens?

or the dude who looks like Ed with an assault rifle, imo

Ping pong balls too

The "action" scenes in CofM are incredible, and much for the same reasons the sex scenes with yo mama are.

symp 4 lady vgnce sux there u go issue solved

rolling thru devasted london in the back of bentley to court of the crimson king meetin some corrupt prince in front of statue of david (his dogs!) clive disarming himself of his liquor - man thats such an amazing sequence

thanks and respect to omar. the screen caps were fantastic, some very neat encapsulations&moment pinpointing: new world, american psycho, memento, in bruges, ghost world, serious man, in the loop, grizzly man, inland empire. h&k, eastern promises, gosford park. the tropical malady one makes me curious about it.

I voted for lady vengeance and its been appreciated by everyone I know who's seen it. cake decorating, horrible lesbian sex, great soundtrack, brief barely-possible-to-watch section of horror/awfulness, very stylish.

from my top ten that didn't place:

waltz w/ bashir
five obstructions
all about lily chou-chou

other shit from my list I thought might have placed:

primer (no one dig this?)
zatoichi
chopper
hero

somehow completely forgot to put primer on my ballot. chopper in there tho.

voted for primer iirc, there's a headaching thread on it somewhere

lj messaging me off-board to share his lady vengeance support as well

doesn't count

five obstructions

this was a hair from placing

all about lily chou-chou

I remember this getting a lot of attention when it came out but ppl don't talk about it much anymore?

would have voted for Primer, had i voted.

ppl don't talk "all about lily chou-chou"

would have voted for Primer, had i voted.

― sofatruck, Friday, February 12, 2010 11:40 AM (15 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

true primer fan would go back in time and vote for it

ok guys, 126-200 (ignore the formatting, i'm grabbing this right from my spreadsheet....the first set of pts or numbers next to the title is just leftover from initial votes for each film)

Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, The – 6 pts 168 pts 8 votes
My Winnipeg 13 pts 166.5 pts 6 votes
Batman Begins 13 166 pts 6 votes
District 9 - 6pts 162 pts 10 votes
Nobody Knows - 24pts 161 pts 6 votes
Jackass - 1pts 159 pts 10 votes
Spellbound - 24 158.5 pts 8 votes
Casino Royale 5 158.5 pts 12 votes
Zoolander - 2 158 pts 12 votes
Saddest Music In The World, The - 30 pts 157 pts 6 votes
Man Who Wasn’t There, The 34 157 pts 8 votes
Man On Wire James Marsh 2008 14 155 pts 10 votes
Downfall 32 155 pts 9 votes
Fog of War, The: Eleven Lessons from the Life of Robert S. McNamara (Errol Morris, 2003) 20.5 154.5 pts 9 votes
Monsters Inc. - 32 pts 154 pts 5 votes
Bully - 39 pts 154 pts 6 votes
Science of Sleep, The - 32 153 pts 6 votes
Ocean’s Eleven - 27 151.5 pts 12 votes
Dead Man's Shoes 4 151 pts 6 votes
King of Kong 26 148.5 pts 8 votes
Virgin Suicides, The 30 147 pts 6 votes
School of Rock - 2 146.5 pts 9 votes
Knocked Up - 26 146 pts 7 votes
Irreversible (Gaspar Noé, 2002, France) 38 145 pts 5 votes
Gangs of New York - 28 143.5 pts 7 votes
Devil And Daniel Johnston, The - 3 pts 143 pts 8 votes
Bad Education 21 pts 143 pts 6 votes
Wonder Boys - 24pts 141 pts 6 votes
Grindhouse - 1 141 pts 11 votes
Little Otik - 27 pts 138 pts 5 votes
Persepolis - 10 137.5 pts 7 votes
Martyrs - 20 135 pts 6 votes
Marie Antoinette - 12 134 pts 6 votes
Cremaster 3 37 134 pts 4 votes
Eureka Shinji Aoyama 2000 29 132 pts 4 votes
Snatch - 31 pts 131 pts 6 votes
Goodbye, Dragon Inn 23 pts 130 pts 5 votes
Decasia 27 pts 126 pts 4 votes
Little Miss Sunshine – 33 pts 123 pts 5 votes
Adventureland – 36pts 122 pts 5 votes
Black Book 11 pts 121 pts 8 votes
Hangover, The - 12 120 pts 6 votes
Femme Fatale - 30 120 pts 8 votes
Amores Perros (4 pts) 119.5 pts 8 votes
SUPER TROOPERS - 23 pts 119 pts 10 votes
Encounters at the End of the World - 34 pts 118.5 pts 4 votes
Tristam Shandy: A Cock And Bull Story - 40pts 118 pts 7 votes
Secretary -19pts 117.5 pts 7 votes
Prestige - 8 117.5 pts 6 votes
Ichi the Killer - 11 pts 117 pts 6 votes
White Ribbon, The 39 116 pts 5 votes
Waking Life – 12 pts 116 pts 5 votes
Proposition, The 20.5 115.5 pts 6 votes
2046 Wong Kar-Wai 2004 32 115.5 pts 6 votes
Class, The 16 115 pts 6 votes
Sunshine - 40 114 pts 4 votes
Kiss Kiss Bang Bang - 22pts 114 pts 7 votes
Waltz with Bashir - 20 113 pts 5 votes
Traffic – 11 pts 112 pts 9 votes
Beau travail - 10 pts 112 pts 5 votes
Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans - 9 pts 112 pts 6 votes
Filth And The Fury, The 38 111.5 pts 4 votes
Sympathy for Lady Vengeance 24 109 pts 4 votes
Wendy and Lucy 20.5 108.5 pts 4 votes
bring it on - 35 108.5 pts 5 votes
Station Agent, The - 25pts 108 pts 5 votes
George Washington – 23pts 108 pts 5 votes
DiG! - 14 108 pts 6 votes
Away From Her Sarah Polley 2006 38 108 pts 3 votes
Primer    3pts 107.5 pts 7 votes
Ten 18 pts 107 pts 4 votes
Jackass Number Two – 24 pts 107 pts 6 votes
Crank 2: High Voltage - 20 pts 107 pts 4 votes
Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (21 pts) 107 pts 7 votes
Life Aquatic, The - 16 pts 105 pts 6 votes

Yeah, more big props to Omar.
A lot of the unfurling of this list amidst arguments was very cinematic itself. I lolled so hard when he posted Lost In Translation's placing, even though I hate the thing.

ATTENTION LJ

DO YOUR HOMEWORK AND STOP LURKING ON ILX

READ YR BLOGS

201-300

Mystic River 16 104 pts 4 votes
Apocalypto (Mel Gibson, 2006)-17 104 pts 4 votes
Dogtown and Z-Boys - 19pts 103 pts 4 votes
Collateral 5 103 pts 7 votes
Mysterious Skin - 10pts 102.5 pts 5 votes
About a Boy     22 102 pts 4 votes
Hellboy (2004) - 38 pts 101 pts 6 votes
Fantastic Mr. Fox, The (Wes Anderson, 2009) 100 pts 7 votes
Power of Nightmares - 31 pts 98 pts 3 votes
Milk (Gus Van Sant, 2008, USA) 40 98 pts 5 votes
Hunger  33 97 pts 4 votes
Me And You And Everyone We Know - 38pts 96.5 pts 3 votes
Erin Brockovich – 16pts 94.5 pts 4 votes
Son, The - 37 pts 94 pts 3 votes
Hedwig and the Angry Inch - 10 92 pts 5 votes
A Scanner Darkly Richard Linklater 2006 4 91.5 pts 5 votes
Half Nelson 15 91 pts 4 votes
Holy Girl, The  34 90 pts 3 votes
A Christmas Tale  18 89 pts 5 votes
Bowling for Columbine - 1 86.5 pts 6 votes
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl - 23 86 pts 3 votes
Moon (2009) - 5 pts 85.5 pts 6 votes
Howl’s Moving Castle - 10 pts 85 pts 5 votes
Three Burials of Melquiades Estrada, The - 22pts 84 pts 4 votes
This Is England - 6 84 pts 5 votes
Juno - 11 83.5 pts 4 votes
Taste Of Tea, The - 16pts 83 pts 3 votes
Los Angeles Plays Itself 11 pts 83 pts 4 votes
Jesus’ Son - 19 83 pts 3 votes
Gomorrah (Matteo Garrone, 2008) – 11pts 83 pts 4 votes
Infernal Affairs - 31pts 82 pts 3 votes
Fat Girl - 34 pts 82 pts 4 votes
Chopper, 7 82 pts 3 votes
Pineapple Express – 15 pts 81 pts 6 votes
Lilya 4-ever 13 pts 80 pts 6 votes
Intruder, The aka L'intrus 40 80 pts 2 votes
gladiator 79.5 pts 4 votes
Wolf Creek - 15 79 pts 4 votes
United 93 – 3 pts 79 pts 4 votes
Zatoichi - 25pts 77 pts 3 votes
Mooladé 31 77 pts 3 votes
A Very Long Engagement 40 pts 77 pts 3 votes
Trouble Every Day - 18pts 76.5 pts 4 votes
Russian Ark 10 pts 76 pts 5 votes
Lilo & Stitch - 17 76 pts 3 votes
Inside Man 29 76 pts 5 votes
Brand Upon The Brain (Guy Maddin, 2006) 75 pts 3 votes
lord of the rings: the return of the king 74 pts 3 votes
35 Shots of Rum (Claire Denis, 2008) - 05pts 74 pts 4 votes
Rivers and Tides - 30pts 73 pts 3 votes
Cast Away - 33 73 pts 2 votes
Shattered Glass 39 pts 72 pts 3 votes
Birth - 9 pts 72 pts 5 votes
Broken Flowers (Jim Jarmusch, 2005 25 71.5 pts 3 votes
War of the Worlds 14 pts 71 pts 4 votes
Coraline - 29 pts 71 pts 4 votes
Dirty Pretty Things  8 70.5 pts 4 votes
Swimming Pool, 38 pts 70 pts 2 votes
Speed Racer 28 70 pts 3 votes
Summer Hours 69 pts 3 votes
No Direction Home: Bob Dylan (2005) - 22 pts 69 pts 3 votes
Brown Bunny, The 4 68.5 pts 4 votes
Unknown Pleasures Zhang Ke Jia 2003 27 68 pts 3 votes
Million Dollar Baby - 21 68 pts 4 votes
Gran Torino 25 68 pts 5 votes
Confessions of a Dangerous Mind 23 68 pts 3 votes
Chicken Run 12 68 pts 4 votes
Some Kind of Monster - 16 67 pts 4 votes
Match Point (Woody Allen, 2005, USA) 66.5 pts 4 votes
Slumdog Millionaire – 14 pts 65.5 pts 4 votes
You, the Living - 33 pts 65 pts 2 votes
Sugar 28 65 pts 3 votes
Last Life in the Universe 31 pts 65 pts 3 votes
Good Bye, Lenin!        19 65 pts 5 votes
waitress - 31 64 pts 2 votes
Gone Baby Gone - 16pts 64 pts 4 votes
Devil’s Backbone, The - 28pts 64 pts 3 votes
Constant Gardener 6 64 pts 4 votes
Atanarjuat (The Fast Runner) [Zacharias Kunuk, 2001] – 25 pts 64 pts 2 votes
Dancer Upstairs, The 29 63 pts 2 votes
Perfume: The Story of a Murderer - 18 pts 62 pts 3 votes
American Astronaut - 29 62 pts 2 votes
When the Levees Broke - 3 61 pts 5 votes
Roger Dodger 20 61 pts 3 votes
Darjeeling Limited, The - 3pts 61 pts 3 votes
A Mighty Wind - 11 points 61 pts 3 votes
Volver 12 60 pts 5 votes
Être et avoir aka To Be And To Have (Nicolas Philibert, 2002) - 2 pts 60 pts 3 votes
Devils on the Doorstep (36 pts) 60 pts 2 votes
World, The - 14 59 pts 3 votes
Flight of the Red Balloon 59 pts 3 votes
Blades of Glory [Josh Gordon & Will Speck, 2007] – 21 pts 59 pts 2 votes
Dawn of the Dead - 5pts 58 pts 3 votes
Walk Hard 19 57 pts 2 votes
Shadow of the Vampire - 19 57 pts 4 votes
Lord of War 33 57 pts 2 votes
Still Life 56 pts 4 votes
Crimson Gold 32 pts 56 pts 2 votes
Shrek 55.5 pts 2 votes
Big Fish - 38 55 pts 2 votes

forgetting/momentarily under-appreciating things are what polls are all about

five obstructions benefiting from my generous mood in that placing tbh. primer wld have been the lowest budget film on here? all about lily chou-chou has probably my favourite opening of the 00s, don't want to clog the thread w/ embeds but its on youtube in decent quality, better than watching a trailer to see if yr interested.

Primer 3pts 107.5 pts 7 votes
Ten 18 pts 107 pts 4 votes
Jackass Number Two – 24 pts 107 pts 6 votes
Crank 2: High Voltage - 20 pts 107 pts 4 votes

I like this spread.

Mystic River 16 104 pts 4 votes

4 ppl really ought to be ashamed of themselves (unless they are just massive Tim Robbins fans)

301-400

Unbreakable (M. Night Shyamalan 2000) - 11 54.5 pts 4 votes
Last King of Scotland 16 54 pts 3 votes
I Like Killing Flies 33 pts 54 pts 2 votes
Inside aka À l’intérieur 20.5 53.5 pts 2 votes
Three Times - 27pts 53 pts 2 votes
Shortbus - 24 53 pts 2 votes
Revolutionary Road - 24 53 pts 2 votes
Machinist 22 53 pts 2 votes
Order of Myths, The – 32pts 52 pts 2 votes
Happiness of the Katakuris - 34 52 pts 2 votes
Black Snake Moan - 24 pts 52 pts 4 votes
Pledge, The - 29 51.5 pts 3 votes
Solaris 25 51 pts 3 votes
House of Mirth 51 pts 2 votes
Dave Chappelle's Block Party 24 pts 51 pts 2 votes
Burn After Reading - 16 pts 51 pts 4 votes
Spider - 3pts 50 pts 3 votes
Idiocracy - 23 pts 50 pts 6 votes
Good Night, and Good Luck - 19 50 pts 3 votes
Hard Candy (David Slade, 2006) 49.5 pts 2 votes
No Man's Land (2001) - 17 pts 49 pts 2 votes
A Prairie Home Companion-35 pts 49 pts 2 votes
Keane - 33pts 48 pts 2 votes
Star Trek - 26pts 47.5 pts 3 votes
Visitor Q - 32pts 47 pts 2 votes
Paprika - 26 47 pts 3 votes
Les Destinees - 26 47 pts 2 votes
I'm not Scared 47 pts 2 votes
We Jam Econo: The Story of the Minutemen - 30 pts 46 pts 4 votes
Kingdom of Heaven - 32pts 46 pts 2 votes
Joint Security Area (JSA) - 9pts 46 pts 3 votes
Dude, Where’s My Car? (Danny Leiner, 2000) 46 pts 2 votes
Serenity - 25pts 45.5 pts 2 votes
Finisterre 10 pts 45.5 pts 3 votes
Hallam Foe (David Mackenzie, 2007) 23 45 pts 2 votes
Southland Tales – 13pts 45 pts 3 votes
Role Models    11pts 45 pts 3 votes
Panic Room - 22 44 pts 3 votes
Anvil! The Story of Anvil (2008) - 21 pts 44 pts 3 votes
Hellboy 2: The Golden Army 9 43 pts 3 votes
Cellular - 32 43 pts 2 votes
Son of Rambow (Garth Jennings, 2007, UK) - 16 pts 42 pts 3 votes
Ring, The 8 42 pts 3 votes
Man Without A Past. The - 37pts 42 pts 2 votes
Gabrielle (Patrice Chéreau, 2005) 42 pts 2 votes
crazy/beautiful – 19pts 42 pts 2 votes
Requiem For A Dream - 1 41 pts 5 votes
Good Thief, The 41 pts 2 votes
Bend It Like Beckham (Gurinder Chadha, 2002) 41 pts 2 votes
A Beautiful Mind        27 41 pts 2 votes
Shaolin Soccer - 15 40.5 pts 3 votes
Tropic Thunder - 4 pts 40 pts 2 votes
Spiderman 40 pts 2 votes
OSS 117: Cairo, Nest of Spies - 40 pts 40 pts 1 vote
No End in Sight 40 pts 2 votes
Igby Goes Down - 33 pts 40 pts 2 votes
Historias Extraordinarias - 40 p 40 pts 1 vote
Dream Work (Peter Tscherkassky) - 40 40 pts 1 vote
Blissfully Yours - 35 40 pts 2 votes
all tomorrow's parties/mingri tianya    40 40 pts 1 vote
After the Wedding (40 pts) 40 pts 1 vote
Searching For the Wrong-Eyed Jesus (Andrew Douglas, 2003, USA) 39.5 pts 2 votes
Wind Will Carry Us, The - 39 pts 39 pts 1 vote
Two Drifters - 39pts 39 pts 1 vote
Planet Terror - 39pts 39 pts 1 vote
Last Days 16 39 pts 2 votes
L'Ora di Religione 39 39 pts 1 vote
Gerry 12 pts 39 pts 3 votes
Forgetting Sarah Marshall (Nicholas Stoller, 2008) 39 pts 3 votes
edge of heaven - 39 39 pts 1 vote
Code Unknown (Michael Haneke, 2000) 39 pts 1 vote
Beat That My Heart Skipped, The - 39pts 39 pts 1 vote
Aristocrats, The  - 39 pts 39 pts 1 vote
Syriana – 1pts 38.5 pts 4 votes
Z32 38 38 pts 1 vote
transporter - 38 38 pts 1 vote
Princess And The Warrior - 38 pts 38 pts 1 vote
Phantom aka O Fantasma 7 38 pts 2 votes
In the Bedroom (Todd Field, 2001) 38 pts 1 vote
Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story (2004) - 6 pts 38 pts 3 votes
Death Proof 34 38 pts 2 votes
Curse of the Golden Flower - 38pts 38 pts 1 vote
Candy - 38pts 38 pts 1 vote
A Prophet aka Un prophète (Jacques Audiard, 2009, France)-38 38 pts 1 vote
Vicky Cristina Barcelona 1 37 pts 4 votes
Two Lovers 4 pts 37 pts 3 votes
Tomorrow We move-37 pts 37 pts 1 vote
Riding With Giants - 37pts 37 pts 1 vote
Old Joy 37 37 pts 1 vote
Jonestown: The Life and Death of Peoples Temple - 17 pts 37 pts 2 votes
Iraq in Fragments – 10pts 37 pts 2 votes
Heart of the Game, The (2005) 37 pts 1 vote
Ghosts of Mars 37 37 pts 1 vote
Fall, The - 32 pts 37 pts 3 votes
Elizabethtown - 37 37 pts 1 vote
Cabin Fever 9 37 pts 2 votes
Year of the Devil aka Rok dábla [Petr Zelenka, 2002] – 36 pts 36 pts 1 vote
Witnesses 36 pts 2 votes
vers le sud/heading south       36 36 pts 1 vote
Save The Green Planet! - 36 pts 36 pts 1 vote

Ghosts of Mars 37 37 pts 1 vote

My hero.

WOW at the low placing of Paprika! Did only 3 people see it?

part of the problem w/ paprika was it didn't get on the nom thread until the last week I think

Mystic River 16 104 pts 4 votes

4 ppl really ought to be ashamed of themselves (unless they are just massive Tim Robbins fans)

― Michael Steele, the first black Superman (HI DERE), 12 February 2010 16:45 (5 minutes ago)

what, with Lost In Trnalsation top 10? As if.