cremaster 2 was the one with the bee/drone deal - it's a Mormon/Utah thing, also the one with Dave Lombardo
All I remember is a lot of boat, fishing baskets, tea ceremony, and Bjork playing with fruit in the bath -- I could very well be forgetting things, it's just my overall impression was one of a long period of tedium.
― sarahel, Friday, 12 February 2010 08:46 (sixteen years ago)
yeah thats not a cremaster movie. you are thinking of drawing restraint 9. cremaster 3 is all about the masons and the chrysler building and lots of (admittedly slow developing) fucked up shit going on.
― 3:16 (jjjusten), Friday, 12 February 2010 08:49 (sixteen years ago)
a charming still from C3 that might make my horror justification carry a little more weight:
http://www.entreumcigarroeoutro.kit.net/cremaster_3.jpg
― 3:16 (jjjusten), Friday, 12 February 2010 08:51 (sixteen years ago)
oh whoops - you're right - yeah Cremaster 3 was a lot more exciting/interesting - that's the one with Richard Serra, and the Agnostic Front/Murphy's Law "battle" in the Guggenheim and the sheep kickline dancers that one was pretty good.
― sarahel, Friday, 12 February 2010 08:52 (sixteen years ago)
I think I saw Cremaster 3 not long after seeing From Hell.
― sarahel, Friday, 12 February 2010 08:53 (sixteen years ago)
xpost ok good because you were making me v v confused - was wondering if the cutting legs off comment was in re: aimee mullins ( who is an irl not having legs person)
― 3:16 (jjjusten), Friday, 12 February 2010 08:57 (sixteen years ago)
No - I was confusing one 3 hour long Matthew Barney film for the other one.
― sarahel, Friday, 12 February 2010 08:59 (sixteen years ago)
And maybe I'm remembering wrong again, but I was taken with the fact that Richard Serra resembled Ian Holm who played a sorta similar Masonic role in From Hell.
― sarahel, Friday, 12 February 2010 09:01 (sixteen years ago)
yeah dude is not really into brevity anymore (speaking of which btw, i think C2 is 1:20 or so. and how it flies by! ok not really)
xpost: huh yeah kind of. also C5, for whoever hasnt seen it, is fucking beautiful. no really!
― 3:16 (jjjusten), Friday, 12 February 2010 09:03 (sixteen years ago)
thats the opera one btw. also i realize that saying "oh hey see this asap" makes me kind of a dick considering this stuff never plays anywhere ever. thx walker arts for owning all 5 terrifyingly expensive laserdiscs.
as an added note, while tooling around looking for cremaster info, i discovered that one of my cremaster books is going for $750 on ebay. yay modern art!
― 3:16 (jjjusten), Friday, 12 February 2010 09:06 (sixteen years ago)
not saying there's any intentional resemblance - C5 is the one I haven't seen, though I have seen stills and they are really lush and beautiful, it's the opera house one.
one can come by bootlegs of the Cremaster films - I got 1/2 and 4/5 in that format from Amoeba. The Walker and SFMoMA jointly own their copy of Cremaster 2 and affiliated artifacts, I believe.
― sarahel, Friday, 12 February 2010 09:08 (sixteen years ago)
zombieland had its moments, but there was something not all there about it. no spoilers here cameo makes it well worth watching tho. so great.
― 3:16 (jjjusten), Monday, 15 February 2010 20:59 (sixteen years ago)
also basically not horror at all. my measure for this is if my gf can make it through the whole movie without being angry at me for making her watch it afterwards, it is not real horror.
― 3:16 (jjjusten), Monday, 15 February 2010 21:00 (sixteen years ago)
got my hands on a screener of Babysitter Wanted. wow. great little fright flick. exact same jumping-off point as House of the Devil, similar slow-burn build, but then tense and intense, by turns, from midway until the end, and definitely its own beast. watch for a wide release in May.
― Mr. Hal Jam, Monday, 15 February 2010 23:38 (sixteen years ago)
just finished Dead Snow and wow i kind of hated it.
― THEY HAVE CREATED ANOTHER (jjjusten), Friday, 26 February 2010 06:06 (sixteen years ago)
ok new moratorium, no humor allowed in zombie movies for the next 5 years and then we'll give it another try.
― THEY HAVE CREATED ANOTHER (jjjusten), Friday, 26 February 2010 06:07 (sixteen years ago)
Watched Pontypool recently. Pretty good, it goes off into the deep end 2/3 of the way through, but an interesting take on a tired genre.
― DavidM, Friday, 26 February 2010 11:38 (sixteen years ago)
ok, re that newly revived Japanese House from '77 -- I didn't laugh or jump once.
― Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 28 February 2010 07:49 (sixteen years ago)
so the verdict on house of the devil is generally thumbs-up? planning on watching it tonight.
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Monday, 15 March 2010 21:25 (sixteen years ago)
It depends on whether or not you appreciate the aesthetics of early-80s B-movie horror - drive-in-era relics & such. If you are down with that, HOTD is pretty much a straight-up homage, lovingly crafted as such, & u will def love it. Subtracting the nostalgia factor, I imagine it might seem oddly bland to the objective viewer.
― Man or Austro-Hungarian? (Pillbox), Monday, 15 March 2010 21:30 (sixteen years ago)
Either way, it is worth watching imo, if only for the note-perfect performance of Tom Noonan - he is creeeeepy as hell & needs to be in more horror flicks.
― Man or Austro-Hungarian? (Pillbox), Monday, 15 March 2010 21:32 (sixteen years ago)
Have any of y'all ilx0rs seen Lo? Thinking about watch-instantlying it tonight.
― Chatbot LeFonque (Jon Lewis), Monday, 15 March 2010 21:34 (sixteen years ago)
just ordered a copy. Betz's first film, Joshua, was a great idea let down by poor execution. Unless he has improved tenfold as a director, this one sounds like it could have the same problem.
― Mr. Hal Jam, Monday, 15 March 2010 21:38 (sixteen years ago)
ok new moratorium, no humor allowed in zombie movies for the next 5 years and then we'll give it another try.― THEY HAVE CREATED ANOTHER (jjjusten), Friday, February 26, 2010 1:07 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark
― THEY HAVE CREATED ANOTHER (jjjusten), Friday, February 26, 2010 1:07 AM (2 weeks ago) Bookmark
I actually kinda liked DS, but this is OTM. Zombieland was a good enough note to end on. Let the genre lie for a while & leave it for new blood to pick up & run with sometime down the line when a new series of apocalyptic events scares our culture into zombie-mode all over again.
― Man or Austro-Hungarian? (Pillbox), Monday, 15 March 2010 21:40 (sixteen years ago)
by that I mean zombie movies in general, not just "humorous" zombie flicks.
― Man or Austro-Hungarian? (Pillbox), Monday, 15 March 2010 21:42 (sixteen years ago)
Can we also stop doing emo vampire stories while we're at it?
― smoking cigarette shades? it doesn't even make any sense. (HI DERE), Monday, 15 March 2010 21:44 (sixteen years ago)
funny zombie movies >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emo vampire movies
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Monday, 15 March 2010 21:45 (sixteen years ago)
i saw the first part of Lo and it is pretty much not very good, there are some flashes of interesting and then waves of dull/dumb/awful
― First and Last and Safeways (jjjusten), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 00:54 (sixteen years ago)
wisecracking demon is just 1000% annoying and poorly thought out.
― First and Last and Safeways (jjjusten), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 00:55 (sixteen years ago)
may give that a shot
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 01:06 (sixteen years ago)
wait, Lo? dont do it!
― First and Last and Safeways (jjjusten), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 01:07 (sixteen years ago)
oh yeah? alright, i'll go with the zombie nazis instead.
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 01:11 (sixteen years ago)
didnt love that one, but much much better than LO imo.
also you could just watch impaler instead which is not a horror movie, but has a satanic vampire so
― First and Last and Safeways (jjjusten), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 01:13 (sixteen years ago)
Has there ever been a straight-up humorless zombie movie? The only example I can think of is Solaris.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 01:17 (sixteen years ago)
well 28 days/weeks later arent really played for the funny imo, if yer looking for recentish examples
― First and Last and Safeways (jjjusten), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 01:21 (sixteen years ago)
i think all traces of humor in I, Zombie were unintentional. but I don't know. this was, after all, a movie that gave horrible new meaning to the phrase "jerking off."
― Mr. Hal Jam, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 01:30 (sixteen years ago)
not much humor in Pupi Avati's Zeder (Revenge of the Dead, Stateside). just a good, old-fashioned scary story. with zombies.
― Mr. Hal Jam, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 01:33 (sixteen years ago)
28 days/weeks are pretty dry, true... I feel like they are the Stephen Wright of zombie movies.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 01:35 (sixteen years ago)
they're derivative enough to be...
― Mr. Hal Jam, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 01:41 (sixteen years ago)
i walked with a zombie is totally straightfaced, if multilayered
― forksclovetofu, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 01:42 (sixteen years ago)
what about Dead & Buried and Deathdream? if there's any humor shading the horror here, it's of the absolute darkest hue.
― Mr. Hal Jam, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 01:44 (sixteen years ago)
The problem I have with horror movies that I've seen in the mid to late '00s and ongoing is that they are too slick, or full of gimmicky cinematography. Which is why I loved Drag Me to Hell so much - in addition to telling a good, if not entirely original story, the style was very workaday which worked well for it.
― Cattle Grind, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 03:11 (sixteen years ago)
sorry guys but period detail aside, house of the devil was pretty bad. and even if it was supposed to be bad, it could have been a little less by-the-book.
― rinse the lemonade (Jordan), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 15:05 (sixteen years ago)
I liked the acting. Tom Noonan is always a treat to watch, and Greta Gerwig was good, esp. with her face blown off.
― Like a sausage or snake, smooth and soft (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 15:12 (sixteen years ago)
secretly the best funny zombie movie of the best few years is Black Sheep, because it's about zombie livestock
― some dude, Tuesday, 16 March 2010 15:15 (sixteen years ago)
Made it through 40 minutes of Lo last night, had to walk the dogs, couldn't convince self to pick it back up. My mileage pretty much matched jjjusten's-- it has redeeming qualities, but no.
― Chatbot LeFonque (Jon Lewis), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 15:23 (sixteen years ago)
Just watched triangle, and it was eh ok
― First and Last and Safeways (jjjusten), Tuesday, 16 March 2010 23:46 (sixteen years ago)
Ok watching "inside" tonight, wish me luck
― First and Last and Safeways (jjjusten), Sunday, 21 March 2010 05:25 (sixteen years ago)
Holy fucking fuck
― First and Last and Safeways (jjjusten), Sunday, 21 March 2010 06:52 (sixteen years ago)
lol
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Sunday, 21 March 2010 07:39 (sixteen years ago)