The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

"Are you saying only because of the shift from the book?"

In part, yes, but I think the choice to make her African (as opposed to just not Julianne Moore) plays into certain stereotypes as well.

Um I thought the "room full of COWS" was more a biblical reference than a play on the "beast of burden" thing, ffs.

I mean I read it as a manger substitute.

its a minor quibble... like I said, I'm glad it placed so highly, its a remarkable film

I'm trying to not ruin this movie, guys, cuz I don't think its bad by any stretch of the imagination, but seriously. . . there are some pretty suspect choices in it. That's all I'm saying.

can someone post the final list plz

Thanks for doing this omar! Um can we have 101-200 now?

she had to not be British, for plot purposes. I also think the fact that she's African helped the cause of the Fishes (also, Chiwitel's character being Black British gave him increased motivation for his politics, lending a lot of weight to his 'they take away your dignity' line).

k here i go, but.. i didn't see what MD had to say about performance that was so interesting? when i watched, seemed to me that from the moment naomi watts showed up onscreen, until she goes to that audition, the acting was so obviously, intentionally terrible that.. all i could think was, it must be a lot of work for all these professionals to deliberately look this bad. is that how you're supposed to see it?

um no

"she had to not be British, for plot purposes."

Why?

"I also think the fact that she's African helped the cause of the Fishes"

Huh.

"(also, Chiwitel's character being Black British gave him increased motivation for his politics, lending a lot of weight to his 'they take away your dignity' line)."

Whatever.

she does that audition scene (or at least a variant of it) three times in the film, all in completely different ways.

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hen i watched, seemed to me that from the moment naomi watts showed up onscreen, until she goes to that audition, the acting was so obviously, intentionally terrible

How is this a bad thing, and can you spot intentionally terrible acting? That's part of the point of the movie.

OMAR U R BEST

Hm ok I've been going through this thread adding stuff to Netflix cos I thought yall might have TASTE then a crapload of disappointing movies are in the top 20! Now I just don't know WHAT to think.

Cheers Omar anyway

for plot purposes:

The Fishes wanted her because she they were against the government policies dealing with refugees/asylum seekers/foreigners. the fact that a foreigner was basically the saviour of the species meant that the government would give take the kid away and give it to a UK Citizen, so the Fishes could use it to rally the people around them.

African: basically foreign and a different skin colour is the ultimate Other.

Thanx x1000 for this Omar. It's been fun!

have to say i am not au fait with these stereotypes shakey mo describes

prob shouldn't have fallen into that 'depicting an African woman as capable of pregnancy' stereotype. Cuaron is pretty racist and all.

Thanks for doing this Omar. And thanks to everybody else who voted and posted - I found out about a handful of films I'd never seen or hadn't heard of that really piqued my interest.

Definitely big ups to omar for all of this.

black woman as the mule of the world was zora neale hurston's phrase, are you mixing that with anti-immigration paranoia about fertile immigrants...?

omar, thankings....

at some point i'll post the complete list, probably tomorrow.

do we do ballots now? or too soon?

can anyone point me to the 1940's film poll that was mentioned a while back? search function is not helping.

omar is a prince among shitheels imo

Think ballots should be a separate thread, just because this one is so long.

ok i'll give you guys a taste, number 101-125....

numbers*

awsome luv u guys lol @ all the joke entries flooding in at num 2 good job gonna have to go back and read this whole bitch then watch the ones i havent seen and ty omar

black woman is the nigger of the world

Thanks for all the work put into this, omar, esp the screengrabs, quotes and links to ilx threads. Sets a high bar for future polls.

101 - Iron Man (204 points, 11 votes) - technically tied w/morvern callar but i decided to just keep it at an even 100 and go with the one that received more votes.
102 - Paranoid Park (201.5 points, 9 votes)
103 - Mean Girls (200.5 points, 11 votes)
104 - The Pianist (199.5 points, 11 votes)
105 - Songs From the Second Floor (198 points, 7 votes, 1 first place)
106 - The Wrestler (197.5 points, 11 votes)
107 - Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon (197.5 points, 12 votes)
108 - Election (197 points, 8 votes)
109 - The Five Obstructions (196.5 points, 10 votes)
110 - The Descent (193 points, 10 votes)
111 - The Best of Youth (193 points, 7 votes, 1 first place)
112 - Syndromes and a Century (191 points, 7 votes)
113 - I Heart Huckabees (191 points, 14 votes)
114 - Michael Clayton (190.5 points, 12 votes, 1 first place)
115 - Crank (189.5 points, 10 votes)
116 - American Splendor (188.5 points, 9 votes)
117 - Hot Fuzz (184.5 points, 10 votes)
118 - Head-On (184 points, 6 votes, 1 first place)
119 - The Bourne Ultimatum (182 points, 10 votes)
120 - Cloverfield (179 pts, 8 votes)
121 - The Werckmeister Harmonies (178 points, 8 votes)
122 - Moulin Rouge! (177 points, 8 votes)
123 - Drag Me To Hell (172 points, 8 votes)
124 - Sin City (169 points, 6 votes)
125 - Pulse (169 points, 9 votes)

yeah omar this was awesome all around I mailed you a pallet of honey nut cheerios enjoy

;_; if I voted maybe election would have broken the top 100?

omar you're the best, thanks so much, must have been a ton of work

if you gave it at least 8 points, yes...xp

Excellent top 20 in this poll - aside from Inland Empire obviously.

y'all have no idea. it was quite a way to finish off my last week on the job, lol.

I thougt it was pretty key to the film to have the saviour of mankind be one of the people the fascist govt. was hellbent on dehumanizing.

sigh I guess I feel the same way after not having voted in 2004! xp

I thougt it was pretty key to the film to have the saviour of mankind be one of the people the fascist govt. was hellbent on dehumanizing.

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this

omar - i threw your screens into a flash sideshow. will post the link unless you object.

can you make "i guess we had the time of our life" play over it

when i watched, seemed to me that from the moment naomi watts showed up onscreen, until she goes to that audition, the acting was so obviously, intentionally terrible

How is this a bad thing, and can you spot intentionally terrible acting? That's part of the point of the movie.

i'm not sure, it was my experience watching that it starts by deliberately being poorly acted and trite, and just felt like a mishmash of hollywood references and v fake characters.

sounds dope, bnw

was disappointed I didn't get to make a TEH PANTOME MENACE #1 JOEK.jpg

thanks Omar! this was amazing.

one q: what was the lowest placed film with 2 first place votes that you mentioned about 3000 posts ago?

think you're just tone-deaf to whatever lynch's music is, daria