The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

consensus? on ilx?

Seriously someone please explain why her being black was insulting.

lol 2000 points.. beautiful

guys did secret window place?

secretly

was so insulting that the troll behind the diner was black

xp the saviour of the human race can't come from africa, everyone knows this.

and with that, folks...

http://1000monkeys.com/img/imfinished.png

"yeah, can you articulate why making the future of humanity african is offensive to u?"

Again I haven't thought about this much in the last four years, but my feeling at the time was that setting up this African woman as shining beacon of fertily who needs to be protected by a white knight was pretty obvious and lame. And for those who haven't read the book, this was a conscious shift from it. In the novel the Julianna Moore character is the pregnant one and its a far cry from being all "oh I don't know who the father is and it doesn't matter anyway."

Omar Little deserved better than MD as his #1. trojan work.

I can understand being a bit squicky with the white protector part, but earlier you made it sound like just the fact that she was black was problematic. Are you saying only because of the shift from the book?

are you guys unfamiliar with stereotypes of black women as fertile beasts of burden wtf

In the novel the Julianna Moore character is the pregnant one

?!? really? I assume she doesn't get iced the way she does in the film then (which is pretty striking and def one of the best moments in the movie)

xp well it's obvious that if they were rewriting with a black female lead the protector should also have been colour co-ordinated. this stuff is important

I did the mirror thing but then I got another guy who was also doing the mirror thing and we sort of had a silent faceoff for about five minutes

also lolz they reveal her in a room full of COWS I mean oooh subtle symbolism there guys

uh, wrong thread

Love MD, it was my first place and I believe it is one of the finest films ever made.

My #1, no shame.

bravo omar! looking forward to seeing where my #1 (Head-On) landed.

"Are you saying only because of the shift from the book?"

In part, yes, but I think the choice to make her African (as opposed to just not Julianne Moore) plays into certain stereotypes as well.

Um I thought the "room full of COWS" was more a biblical reference than a play on the "beast of burden" thing, ffs.

I mean I read it as a manger substitute.

its a minor quibble... like I said, I'm glad it placed so highly, its a remarkable film

I'm trying to not ruin this movie, guys, cuz I don't think its bad by any stretch of the imagination, but seriously. . . there are some pretty suspect choices in it. That's all I'm saying.

can someone post the final list plz

Thanks for doing this omar! Um can we have 101-200 now?

she had to not be British, for plot purposes. I also think the fact that she's African helped the cause of the Fishes (also, Chiwitel's character being Black British gave him increased motivation for his politics, lending a lot of weight to his 'they take away your dignity' line).

k here i go, but.. i didn't see what MD had to say about performance that was so interesting? when i watched, seemed to me that from the moment naomi watts showed up onscreen, until she goes to that audition, the acting was so obviously, intentionally terrible that.. all i could think was, it must be a lot of work for all these professionals to deliberately look this bad. is that how you're supposed to see it?

um no

"she had to not be British, for plot purposes."

Why?

"I also think the fact that she's African helped the cause of the Fishes"

Huh.

"(also, Chiwitel's character being Black British gave him increased motivation for his politics, lending a lot of weight to his 'they take away your dignity' line)."

Whatever.

she does that audition scene (or at least a variant of it) three times in the film, all in completely different ways.

xposts

hen i watched, seemed to me that from the moment naomi watts showed up onscreen, until she goes to that audition, the acting was so obviously, intentionally terrible

How is this a bad thing, and can you spot intentionally terrible acting? That's part of the point of the movie.

OMAR U R BEST

Hm ok I've been going through this thread adding stuff to Netflix cos I thought yall might have TASTE then a crapload of disappointing movies are in the top 20! Now I just don't know WHAT to think.

Cheers Omar anyway

for plot purposes:

The Fishes wanted her because she they were against the government policies dealing with refugees/asylum seekers/foreigners. the fact that a foreigner was basically the saviour of the species meant that the government would give take the kid away and give it to a UK Citizen, so the Fishes could use it to rally the people around them.

African: basically foreign and a different skin colour is the ultimate Other.

Thanx x1000 for this Omar. It's been fun!

have to say i am not au fait with these stereotypes shakey mo describes

prob shouldn't have fallen into that 'depicting an African woman as capable of pregnancy' stereotype. Cuaron is pretty racist and all.

Thanks for doing this Omar. And thanks to everybody else who voted and posted - I found out about a handful of films I'd never seen or hadn't heard of that really piqued my interest.

Definitely big ups to omar for all of this.

black woman as the mule of the world was zora neale hurston's phrase, are you mixing that with anti-immigration paranoia about fertile immigrants...?

omar, thankings....

at some point i'll post the complete list, probably tomorrow.

do we do ballots now? or too soon?

can anyone point me to the 1940's film poll that was mentioned a while back? search function is not helping.

omar is a prince among shitheels imo

Think ballots should be a separate thread, just because this one is so long.

ok i'll give you guys a taste, number 101-125....

numbers*

awsome luv u guys lol @ all the joke entries flooding in at num 2 good job gonna have to go back and read this whole bitch then watch the ones i havent seen and ty omar