The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

I think this is true, and a good thing. There's a tendency to disadvantage more recent releases in any kind of poll - witness most of the "albums of the 00s" lists in various publications - because it feels too early to take the plunge on something that hasn't had time to bed in, and it's refreshing to get "yay, fuck it, I loved this" instead.

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yep, wouldn't be surprised to see people being a bit more confident about putting the blind side in their top 10 in 2050

never saw #6 or #5 myself - not really interested in TWBB but Miyazaki seems like a safe director to take a chance on

TWBB is really fucking great.

i think IB has the sort of things in it that morbius might actually enjoy

Enough to wipe out "The powerrr of the ssssssssinema is going to BRING DOWN THE THIRD REICH!" (hatchet-faced geek on promo tour smiles smugly)? Doubtful.

i can't believe people think of TWBB as some decade classic with paul dano's completely embarrassing performance

i liked DDL as bill the butcher better anyway

I'm willing to hate spirited away for hate's sake! hm... this is tough. i guess i don't like how they demonized pigs when they are so tasty.

Fantastic Mr. Fox isn't gonna place, is it

j0rdan otm

I saw this again last week, and have mellowed. The first three-quarters are terrific, as long as you don't pay attention. This is the rare movie that needed six or seven hours to understand the character's arc.

TWBB that is.

TWBB stands up far better than In the country of old men.

disagree with this. twbb is more visceral but i think there's less to it ultimately.

in a country

of old men

there is a place

where there will be blood

how the hell can you hate on Paul Dano in TWBB

Hey, did you know Mulholland Drive might be one of the movies surprisingly left off? It's still closed, according to authorities.

http://laist.com/2010/02/11/what_happened_to_mulholland_drive.php

Soundtrack is the best thing about TWBB, Jonny Greenwood was shafted by the academy.

I bet he liked it

how the hell can you love Paul Dano in TWBB

That soundtrack took me out of the movie to be honest. no country didn't have a soudntrack did it?

J0rdan OTM about DDL as Bill the Butcher.

xp - Alfred: the problem is that I was paying attention, and it just seemed structured and edited incompetently, and the ending just seemed like a piss-take, almost cowardly. I don't think it "needed" six or seven hours to understand the character's arc, it wasn't that complex, but getting that feeling shows the flaws of the filmmaker more than anything.

yeah i hated the overbearing score, i'm sure he was trying to blow minds by sidestepping film score cliche on purpose and all but the random horror movie string stabs over scenes that didn't call for them at all really ruined a lot of the movie for me

i posted this in the TWBB thread i think, but he wasn't originally cast for that role, and i think it's obvious that he wasn't able to handle it. i just find his shrieking canned & unbelievable.

disagree with this. twbb is more visceral but i think there's less to it ultimately.

my take is that NCFOM is the interesting but annoyingly arsey person who turns up to a party, the sense of self-importance is too pervasive.

TWBB is the interesting and slightly alarming person in the kitchen at the same party who doesn't talk to people that much.

no country didn't have a soudntrack did it?

I was completely oblivious to it in the theater but re-watched recently and there are a handful of (very, verrrrry quietly) scored scenes

re: bad editing, are you talking about when she's learning sign language and 10 seconds later they're getting married?

TWBB was my #1. ^_^

I thought Dano was fine as Eli. He's such a smug, shrill unlikeable little pipsqueak, the perfect foil for Plainview IMO.

Just had a(nother) long argument with my wife about TWBB. She wants everybody who had anything to do with it to spontaneously combust into a pile of ash.

"Enough to wipe out "The powerrr of the ssssssssinema is going to BRING DOWN THE THIRD REICH!" (hatchet-faced geek on promo tour smiles smugly)? Doubtful."

For a guy who likes to pretend everyone else is a mental midget you sure do pop off with the most juvenile reductionist film interpretations.

i was THIS close to putting Magnolia on my ballot just as a challopy way to thumb my nose at Blood

xp - Philip - that, and the way it jumps around and doesn't seem to invest enough in character development or exploration of the social context/issues. It just felt like the people making the movie were bored and impatient.

why wd you watch a pta movie for 'exploration of the social context/issues'

TWBB was at its finest before DDL started talking

(that was a direct quote from "QT," Yakuza Fanboy)

Tarantino only used five S's though

No Country For Old Men is well made I guess but it's ultimately kinda glib and doesn't really say or do anything that interesting except for the villain, who is basically the Terminator with a funny haircut.

ya, I kind of thought that the point of the character was that he was an irredeemable creepy whose storytelling function was to distract you from the level of pathological awfulness inherent in DDL's character until the confrontation at the end of the movie, where your sympathies are fully and rudely inverted

I liked this movie so much more than "Magnolia", it was kind of amazing.

(btw: "the character" = Paul Dano in TWBB)

xp nakhcivan - because it was an adaptation of an Upton Sinclair novel.

TWBB was my #1

(that was a direct quote from "QT," Yakuza Fanboy)

You sure do a lot of research into a movie you never plan on seeing, then.

ya, I kind of thought that the point of the character was that he was an irredeemable creepy whose storytelling function was to distract you from the level of pathological awfulness inherent in DDL's character until the confrontation at the end of the movie, where your sympathies are fully and rudely inverted

that's probably right, if anything the oddity of the performance adds something to what is basically a cipher for 'organised religion!'

"(that was a direct quote from "QT," Yakuza Fanboy)"

Oh so let him do your thinking for you now. That explains a lot.

i don't have a very idealized vision of what ilx's demographic or sensibility is to be actually disappointed or shocked by any of these placements, but somehow i really hoped y'all movie buffs would find a lot more stuff to champion than these Gritty Epics of the '08 Oscars

You sure do a lot of research into a movie you never plan on seeing

guy being unavoidably in the media for 2 weeks in October = "research"

I didn't vote, tho; I'm just periodically shooting the shit about some of the flicks on here.

i went into twbb not really too excited about the whole thing, because tbh i don't really like PTA's other films *that* much (magnolia annoys me, punch-drunk love is forgettable for me, boogie nights is entertaining but just makes me want to watch goodfellas, hard eight isn't bad but doesn't really do much for me) but i loved this film for the most part. totally fantastic, totally OTT, & DDL was insane in the best possible manner.

where your sympathies are fully and rudely inverted

see - the problem I had with TWBB, and which I have with all of this director's movies, is that I don't have sympathy for any of his characters, because there is this, for lack of a better phrase, posturing postmodern distance that isn't played for enough laughs to be funny.

I'm with you guys that Dano doesn't come off as mythic as Daniel Day Lewis, but that's cause he doesn't have a mythic face! The man can't help that he looks like a venture bros.

lol