The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

"why does munich do it and city of god not?"

CUZ SPIELBERG IS A MASTER SHUTUP SHUTUP FUCK YOU I GO CRY NOW </Morbs>

5 BLOOD DIAMONDS

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calling the plotting "solid" is a bit misleading. it's a very twisty labyrinthine movie with lots of red herrings and LOTS left unexplained and no real payoff. some people will probably find it unsatisfying. i think it's awesome.

visually it's unbelievable. one of the best-looking movies i've seen in a really long time. when fincher turns his visual chops to pure period stuff he's incredible. it's especially impressive to see the art direction & visuals slowly change over the several decades the movie takes place. san fran hasn't look this good since vertigo.

― s1ocki

the aqua velvet scene never fails to bring lolz

― and what

'THIS... can no longer be ignored'

― and what

Graysmith's moment at the end can be interpreted as either a transcendent confirmation of his suspicions or as the desperate grasping of an obsessive is to the film's credit...and what I like is that it suggests that these two things are not mutually exclusive...and may even depend upon each other!

this is basically the problem of modernity...how does one obtain certainty in situation that only permits probabilities? how do you reconcile this with any sense of justice?

that is, i dont quite accept that Graysmith is simply a delusional obsessive. there is, as the film puts it, about an 80% chance he is right...what you do with that figure is precisely the point.

― ryan

oh man, this was amazing. from the very first shots: the fireworks were just so luscious and full of dread. the lake murder and the roadside abduction sequences were horrifying and great. i loved the red herring and the winking ridiculous basement spooks. oddly thought jake, chloe and downey were all so-so, but more than made up for by the amazing supporting cast and mark ruffalo's terrific performance. between this and Eternal Sunshine i think he might be one of my favourite actors. way more notes in his stuff than you'd think. has he done anything else i should see?

i loved fight club and liked Se7en (but too scary for me), but i think this is pretty obviously his best film. gripping and true-feeling: reminds me oddly of Good Night and Good Luck (both newsroom dramas?), but i liked so much more the way this made cinema out of a historical timeline, while still treading very lightly at the end.

― sean gramophone

But seriously I thought it was just fantastic. Great acting, great mood, great pacing. I admit that maybe it might have resonated more with me because the case was such a part of the undercurrent of the Bay Area when I was growing up, but it's still probably the best movie I've seen this year.

― Alex in SF

Come anticipate David Fincher's "Zodiac"

#9

Zodiac
David Fincher
2007
United States
(781.5 points, 33 votes, 2 first place)

would also like to point out that the cast of city of god was almost exclusively kids from the favelas, there was like one professional actor in the cast

setting aside the moral handwringing, that's pretty impressive given the quality of the performances

i love how the kids in city of god dress - style icons imo

Hurdy gurdy, hurdy gurdy, hurdy gurdy, gurdy he sang.

the opening scene of 'zodiac' where he pans across burb houses on fourth of july is O_O beautiful

is zodiac really any good? I dismissed it as a memories of murder retread when it came out lol

no, ppl here think it sucked, which is why it was voted #9 film of the decade

i hate fincher and i completely love this movie

i love how the kids in city of god dress - style icons imo

― birdman mumia (J0rdan S.), Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:38 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

^

I thought se7en was okay but every other fincher film has disappointed me

should rescreen zodiac - fell asleep for like .5 hours the 1st time

I enjoyed zodiac but def didn't see what made it omg 00s canon. as did lots of people not on ilx I think...

everyone i know IRL thought this film owned

Zodiac is teh awes iirc I blathered about it plenty on that thread

my #1 fwiw

well royal tenenbaums was voted #11, there's no accounting for taste

xxxxxxxp

i hate fincher and i completely love this movie

^^^also this. I really don't enjoy any of his other movies very much

i love how the kids in city of god dress - style icons imo

ya see...

fincher aversion overcame my zodiac killer fascination, guess I will have to rectify

TRT isn't bad, it's mostly just a weird movie w/r/t tone and i'm not feeling it since the lols in that one are pretty harsh and painful and it's really a drama with occasional sad comedy more than anything else. i'm willing to think my reaction has to do with post-rushmore expectations more than anything. 'zodiac' is simply a great film, though.

Yeah I hate Fincher for the most part, but Zodiac was tops.

I forget -- Did they end up pointing the finger at the right dude?

everyone i know IRL thought this film owned

I'm sure our social circles are different but I don't know anyone who loveeddd it. and I mean the reviews are sorta what I'd imagine: http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/zodiac?q=zodiac

(not that reviews matter, but there isn't gonna be another film in this poll that was in the 70s in metacritic)

My feelings about Zodiac haven't changed. And I don't like anything else Fincher has done.

"I forget -- Did they end up pointing the finger at the right dude?"

No.

admittedly TRT isn't "bad" but if its highly idiosyncratic style is anathema to you it becomes a tough haul

now that is a rabishing film

I really hope somebody makes an exciting Sudanese child-soldier film this decade to provide you guys w/ new style icons.

i love how the kids in city of god dress - style icons imo

ya see...

see what? brazilian kids have good fashion sense? point taken

'"I forget -- Did they end up pointing the finger at the right dude?"

No.'

Ha, now i feel bad for that character in the movie. was he the stamp painting husband in fargo?

I really hope the Mets win the World Series again for u.

don't worry morbs, my frat is working on it for our initiation ceremony

the movie is "slow" (in a very, very good way) and doesn't resolve anything and it's a bit of a downer, i know why people didn't like it i guess but they're wrong (metacritic would probably rate most of the best films on this poll in the 60s tbh.)

This is the only Fincher I like, and has my favorite RDJ performance of the last five years (love how he shows his claws and teeth in his last scene).

I really hope somebody makes an exciting Sudanese child-soldier film this decade to provide you guys w/ new style icons.

― Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:46 PM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark

nick kristoff is gonna be the anna wintour of the 2010s

"ha, now i feel bad for that character in the movie. was he the stamp painting husband in fargo?"

He was.

He was no saint tho so don't feel too bad. Plus he's long dead.

morbz exposes film lies! photogenic ppl be making good movies shockah!

totally feel like the one hand look will be big in '11

are the kids in city of god dressing inaccurately w/r/t how such kids might dress irl? if so, are they supposed to "dress down" for the movie? serious question.

they are supposed to be decked out in Fila gear

gangsters wear sweatsuits dontchaknow

the whole thing with zodiac is that there are hints of "maybe it was him" but then the postscript quickly provides more questions, which is the point. it kinda gets around the usual weakness of such films, where this vast unknowable truth out there is eventually revealed and the story becomes less interesting. the fact that it's never convincingly revealed makes it all the more interesting and tbh spookier.

planning an outing to tell the youths of east ny to tone down the sex appeal, care to come along morbzy

It's pretty easy to care about human rights and think a favela kid dresses fly at the same time.

so memories of murder retread is what ur telling me

xxp

MoM is better, but both films strike a very similar tone, yes.

there isn't gonna be another film in this poll that was in the 70s in metacritic

Not sure what that means, exactly? How bout 69?

http://www.metacritic.com/film/titles/inglouriousbasterds?q=inglourious

How bout 69?

― Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:53 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

^controversial mod edit plz

i like the mirroring in zodiac, the way the most dangerous game is a symbol both of what zodiac is doing and of what his pursuers are doing -- they're all in it for the thrill, in different ways. and then of course so is fincher, and so is the audience. it manages to be a kind of meta-movie without any tricks or charlie kaufman loopiness, by being as just-the-facts as it can be and taking this very spare, tough-minded approach.