UK Fnordcooler 23: Immanentizing The Eschaton - When The Pyramid Meets The Eye!

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Ruckzuck isn't techno, it's ... I don't know. Kraftwerk doing krautrock with a flute.

The college radio station I used to listen to when I was, like 16, used to use it as an instrumental backing for when they read out local gigs and events listings. I knew it for years and loved it without ever knowing what it was -didn't find out it was Kraftwerk until I went to a Kosmische night and asked the DJ.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 10:35 (nineteen years ago)

Morning all! Congrats Dr C!

Two studios yesterday were pretty shit. The more I think about it, the more I like the one with the tiny live room I saw first. We'll see, a couple more next week.

K8, I'm just waiting for confirmation from the bandmates, but we're 95% confirmed for ilxorpalooza.

That "see the dalai" or wahtever song is teh roXor.

G00blar, Friday, 16 March 2007 10:36 (nineteen years ago)

Go for the studio which gives you the best feeling, like the one that makes you feel like you could actually be creative and comfortable there. You're going to spend enough time there...

Actually I remember the last proper "live" studio I recorded in (not since NYC, which is like 10 years ago, but I've been in every shitty studio from the Meat Packing District to Williamsburg) was Kurt Ralske of UVS's studio. That was lovely, huge live studio, nice control room, hanging out/chilling area with big leather sofas. It was different from a lot of the real workmanlike studios I'd recorded in previously, in that it had that chilling out area, which wasn't just a waiting room or a kitchen. Because it's actually really important to just kind of sit around with your bandmates and TALK - about how you want the music to sound, about directions you want to go in, that sort of thing. Which is often as important as doing the recording.

He said a lot of bands he'd had in had the same reaction - for example, it would be the first time a lot of musicians had actually heard the *lyrics* to the songs they were doing, stuff like that.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 10:41 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, that's exactly what I like about that first place. Aside from the small room, it has everything else we want--and I felt totally comfortable there. Great vintage mics, lots of amps, everything clean, organized, and easily found, nice big chillout area with couches and tv and stuff (way bigger than live room lol), and a totally easy-to-talk-to/work with engineer. I haven't felt like I would want to spend more than a few hours in any of the other places, let alone 5 days, but this place felt totally cool.

G00blar, Friday, 16 March 2007 10:44 (nineteen years ago)

"vintage mics, lots of amps; everything clean, organized, and easily found; nice big chillout area..."

G00blar, Friday, 16 March 2007 10:45 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, when you're going to be spending 10 - 12 hour days in a studio (don't think you won't, especially during the mixing process) you want to make sure it's somewhere you feel comfortable spending time.

You will end up having disagreements during the recording process (any band, no matter how well they get along does) - but having that chill-out room to retreat to and talk stuff out stops it from getting too hairy and it turning into arguments.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 10:47 (nineteen years ago)

Yep. Definitely. And I don't want that happening in the place I saw yesterday: a dank basement cave that reeked of cat piss (and in which I waited a half an hour for the stupid engineer to show up).

G00blar, Friday, 16 March 2007 10:49 (nineteen years ago)

OK, I have 5 tracks from Hawkwind live@ the Stonehenge festival 1977 w/Calvert - highrise/damnation alley/uncle sam's on mars/iron dream/robot. drives like fuck & simon house is ON FIRE. anyone want it?

Pashmina, Friday, 16 March 2007 10:57 (nineteen years ago)

yes, yes, yes, yes yes, please, Pash!

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 10:58 (nineteen years ago)

Great, now I've got Spinal Tap stuck in my head... "HELL HOLE!!! You know where you are in a HELL HOLE!!!"

I know the Tap are supposed to be based on Status Quo, but there's a lot of Hawkwind in there, too.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 11:13 (nineteen years ago)

yes please

Ed, Friday, 16 March 2007 11:28 (nineteen years ago)

I had forgotten how much I love the Bob Calvert rants between the songs. :-)

This is the first Hawkwind record I ever heard. It was also one of the first times I ever got stoned. What a life-changing event.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 11:44 (nineteen years ago)

Hot banjo player needs a room and somewhere to store his equipment, phnarr.

Ed, Friday, 16 March 2007 11:45 (nineteen years ago)

Thanx for the job congrats. Yesterday was going well - as well as my news my daughter got in her school rowing team, which she was very proud about (but not as proud as me!), but then the missus had a bit of a job setback where something she had worked really hard to get on is now not going to happen. She'll bounce back, but is pretty pissed off. I am going to cook special stuff tonight to try and make things extra nice.

Dr.C, Friday, 16 March 2007 11:46 (nineteen years ago)

'worked really hard to get' , not get on

Dr.C, Friday, 16 March 2007 11:48 (nineteen years ago)

school rowing team
is this the right room for an argument?

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 16 March 2007 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

I'm just going to ignore the obvious there, Ed. Hott banjo player has a girl and must only be lusted over from afar. :-(

Aw, poor Mrs. Dr. C - nice dinner, candles, bottle of wine and some making nice-nice seems in order.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 11:50 (nineteen years ago)

hah!

Hey and Kate and Ed - don't forget the gig tomorrow! Bring pies friends!

I am actually looking forward to this gig - the last few have just seemed like a chore, but I think we have a good set lined up that will work well. At least I hope so!

Dr.C, Friday, 16 March 2007 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

I have no friends. :-(

But I will do my best to make the gig. I have no excuses for not going out this weekend, and really need to get out, in fact.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

x-post 'making nice-nice'

Dr.C, Friday, 16 March 2007 11:54 (nineteen years ago)

Ed's your friend!

Dr.C, Friday, 16 March 2007 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

I knew someone was going to think that was a double entendre. :-(

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 11:55 (nineteen years ago)

It's that bloody sitcom thread wot done it.

Dr.C, Friday, 16 March 2007 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

I feel like I should actually get up and go into town and DO SOMETHING tomorrow before the gig. Like look at some art or go to the park or something like that. Maybe I will go to Hampton Court! I don't know. Something exciting. I am sick of resting. Maybe the Science Museum, even.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:17 (nineteen years ago)

VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION

who loves the new arcade fire album? and the first one? and is at a loose end in londontown on saturday night?

i MIGHT have something you might like

emsk, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:20 (nineteen years ago)

I love the first one, but I don't love the second one. And I've got plans for Saturday night so I'm probably excluded from this quiz. :-(

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

yes yes and yes.

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:22 (nineteen years ago)

yes yes and no goddammit. (my parents are coming to town)

G00blar, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

Bring Parents to Rocktor C.

Ed, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

I cannae, no. K's parents are here too.

That's right, this is the weekend I have in front of me: the first meeting of the future in-laws. Should be fun!

G00blar, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

Just remember: it is your wedding, not theirs. It is your rest of your lives together, not theirs.

Not that I have any experience in this sort of thing. My mum wouldn't meet Joe or his family while we were "living in sin". She was right, I was wrong, I can't really complain.

I'm feeling kind of down, I should eat lunch and then go buy some Hawkwind records.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:28 (nineteen years ago)

Yes please , Norman.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:29 (nineteen years ago)

Oh best of luck with that G00blar! I've always got on better with in-laws than my own parents.

Dr.C, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:30 (nineteen years ago)

Wouldn't she meet them because you were livin' in sin, Kate?

Dr.C, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:32 (nineteen years ago)

mmmm, sin.

Ed, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:33 (nineteen years ago)

She later visited my brother and his then girlfriend when THEY were living in sin, but let's not bring up that again.

I also got along better with my in-laws than my parents, but I lost them when Joe dumped me. Oh, I'm supposed to be trying to cheer up, not getting depressed over stupid crap in the past. :-(

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:38 (nineteen years ago)

I actually get on great with the in-laws already. And I'm sure my parents and them will be fine together. It's mostly cultural/language differences I'm a little worried about--but that's more concern over potential awkwardness than it is over potential fisticuffs, etc.

G00blar, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:39 (nineteen years ago)

Topics to avoid: Tipping, tumble dryers, washing machines and their location

Ed, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:42 (nineteen years ago)

It's mostly cultural/language differences I'm a little worried about


What, New Jersey vs. Sunderland?

Ned Raggett, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

We are such geeks in this department, we've just had a discussion about the merits of SumIf vs. If Then Else vs. Iif ha ha.

Masonic Boom, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:47 (nineteen years ago)

NJ vs. Montenegro

G00blar, Friday, 16 March 2007 12:54 (nineteen years ago)

IIf as in VB? It SUXXX bcz it doesnt skip the false part if true and vice versa, ie eg if y = 0, you get ERROR from

quot = IIf(y = 0, 0, x/y)

Argh, that annoys me so much!

anatol_merklich, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:00 (nineteen years ago)

Bloody YSI is taking forever. what's yr email addres, Ed?

Pashmina, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:11 (nineteen years ago)

Ouch. My head hurts.

emil.y, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:13 (nineteen years ago)

Norm> SS is usually better and you don't need to sign up.
emil.y >why does your head hurt?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

Hangover. Went to The Music Library last night, stayed up until 4. Ow.

emil.y, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:18 (nineteen years ago)

Lurkers, WTF? Why the hell would anyone read this?

cos I was on the first watercooler thread and have hardly been able to get a word in edgeways since :)

Matt, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:25 (nineteen years ago)

Is that a huge x-post? because I don't remember anyone saying that!


btw thats now 2 whole weeks on the 'cooler we've had no arguments. So everyone be friends!

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

an enormous crosspost, it's from about two weeks ago

Matt, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

Cheers norm.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 16 March 2007 13:31 (nineteen years ago)


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