Lost Season 6 - RE: LA X

My favorite part of the premiere is the end when the two Other goons are fighting with Jack. Sayid starts to move & Hurley yells "Jack!" and both of the Others immediately spin around with looks of astonishment.

i think there's going to be a richard-centric episode halfway thru the season. seeing as they're not really doing flashbacks anymore i guess it might be based around him on the island sans crash in 2004 but might get backstory that way somehow. with no crash he never meets Locke in the 50s or Jack and Sayid in the 70s.

Think we might get flashbacks for characters who haven't had one before - Richard and Ilana probably.

Dudes complaining about Deus Ex Machinas in Lost, how exactly did you think they were going to explain a giant cloud of smoke that shows people ghosts of their dead relatives and then kills people?

i think there's going to be a richard-centric episode halfway thru the season. seeing as they're not really doing flashbacks anymore i guess it might be based around him on the island sans crash in 2004 but might get backstory that way somehow. with no crash he never meets Locke in the 50s or Jack and Sayid in the 70s.

Or the two timelines converge in some way and so they do show his backstory.

it might be based around him on the island sans crash in 2004

He would have to be deep sea diving, right?

i have to say im with stevie, "lol its sci fi what did u expect" aside, i rewatched season 1 a few weeks ago and the writing/plot development/character motivation was wayyy better than the 3 episodes weve seen so far. i have faith itll get better as they start focusing on the more interesting characters and plot points but these 3 eps have been pretty... lame

i watched the pilot again too and it's just so different..tonally. i wouldn't say necessarily better but they really went all out for it. the advantage it has is that we don't yet know how STUPID certain characters are :)

I thought the mechanic guy was gonna be Tom Friendly, lol.

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was hoping that with 16 episodes of a final season left they'd avoid something this aimless.

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dude i'd so much rather see a jin and sun reunion than more of kate doing idiotic things.

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So I feel like maybe they're using this "infection" or "having been claimed" as the set-up in turning the Others into protagonists. Like, they're just defending the people they know to be "uninfected". Seems like they've been steering towards this for some time, but I'd have to go back and rewatch to say exactly what details have led me to that conclusion.

Also, I don't think my tastes have changed significantly since I started watching Lost, thankfully. I read mainstream comics, so I've always enjoyed the show on that level. I've never expected it to work on the level of the more mature art/entertainment that I enjoy. It does what it does and it does it well.

somebody remind me, what does sawyer know about where locke's been? locke went down the well and sawyer was left holding the rope. after that has anyone filled him in?

Sawyer knows that Locke is dead, and likely knows that Locke's corpse was on the Ajira flight, but that's it, I think.

sawyer doesn't know anything about locke being dead, how could he, he's been in 1977 ever since

i mean, i guess he and jack could have talked about it off-camera, but going on what we've actually seen on the show, i don't think he knows

based on how the characters on this show interact, there is no way anybody would have mentioned an important fact like that to sawyer

i feel worse for sawyer than anyone else on the show

feel mildly bad for locke....tho he sort of seems like a perennial idiot

i love when this show makes Locke seem like a dumbass personally, will be kind of disappointed if this all ends with him being somehow vindicated

yeah it is sort of funny watching him try and try and fall flat on his face all the time, in a sort of cruel way.

Sawyer has pretty consistently had a shitter time than anyone on the Island, except maybe Sayid. Although he had that happy three years with Juliet which admittedly is way, way longer than all the action we've actually seen on screen.

Sawyer was a stone pimp all cool and in control with occasional moments of being tortured or w/e during the first couple seasons

up until being put in a cage (where he got LAID) most of the trouble he got into on the island was his own doing and sometimes he even seemed to welcome it

ben has had a pretty bad time, even if he is an evil asshole. abusive dad, daughter shot dead in front of him, beaten to a pulp numerous times, deposed as leader of the others etc

also had to toss hundreds of bodies into a mass grave after going to the trouble of gassing them

Locke didn't even tell anyone he saw Claire in the cabin right?

The infection thing is bugging me a lot because presumably the unclear water caused it (otherwise why would Lennon mention it?) but they carried on regardless. And if their intention was to save Sayid as instructed by Jacob via Hurley, why were they surprised when he did come back to life? And why would they then ignore Jacob's wishes and try and kill him again (like 'oh he's infected and Jacob definitely wouldn't want that'). Argh.

I don't think the water caused it, I think they didn't know why the water was unclear but surely it was cos Jacob is dead? And hence saving him didn't work.

Are they setting up possession after death by MIB as 'the infection'? Maybe the panic on the part of the Others stems from the fact that Sayid is one of the people selected by Jacob, and if he's infected/possessed/undead he'll screw up Jacob's plan in some way?

Wondering if had they known that Jacob was dead, they wouldn't have attempted to drown/heal Sayid as well

Has Jacob exhibited smokey-powers ever? He seemed to get killed just like a regular dude. Or was that a special knife?

yeah ever since his big reveal in s5 finale i've suspected more and more that jacob is just some guy who is only special for knowing so much of the going-on's of the island. which i guess makes him cuse+lindelof. well played, lost.

killed like a regular dude who lives forever and travels through time, i guess xp

doesn't everyone on the island live forever? (unlessing they don't get themselves shivved)

has anyone noticed that Desmond had a red mark on his neck in a scene in Season 2? He's getting ready for a job interview with Widmore and Penny points it out. THink he fell during one of his visions while painting a room or something.

xxxpost-- I'm sure I remember a scene where Jack or someone tells Sawyer that Locke died. Sawyer asked about him because he was waiting for him to return.

xp "He wakes up lying on a wood floor with what looks like blood all over him. He looks around and sees a spilled can of red paint and a fallen ladder. Penny runs over to him and asks if he's okay. He realizes that they are in his old flat in the past. Delighted to be back with Penny, he kisses and embraces her." -lostpedia

lostpedia also has a helpful image of desmond lying on the floor splattered with red paint. From the context of the episode the use of red there seems more like a general foreshadowing of death/bad things, whereas Jack's cut seems to be alluding to something more specific.

"He wakes up lying on a wood floor with what looks like blood all over him. He looks around and sees a spilled can of red paint and a fallen ladder. Penny runs over to him and asks if he's okay. He realizes that they are in his old flat in the past. Delighted to be back with Penny, he kisses and embraces her."

I thought this was a quote from an old text adventure game at first

go north.

http://tellywonk.com/2010/01/lost-season-two-episode-by-episode/#twopointseven

god damn why isn't that a real game?

The main problems with this episode were Claire's janky wigs. Mercy.

has it been suggested yet that the jacob that told hurley to take sayid to the temple was maybe the MIB? and that "infecting" sayid within the walls of the temple was maybe an easier way for him to get in because of the circle of ash or whatever?

Yeah I thought that might be the case.

Too complicated.

xp "He wakes up lying on a wood floor with what looks like blood all over him. He looks around and sees a spilled can of red paint and a fallen ladder. Penny runs over to him and asks if he's okay. He realizes that they are in his old flat in the past. Delighted to be back with Penny, he kisses and embraces her." -lostpedia

lostpedia also has a helpful image of desmond lying on the floor splattered with red paint. From the context of the episode the use of red there seems more like a general foreshadowing of death/bad things, whereas Jack's cut seems to be alluding to something more specific.

or Desmond has 'infected' off island Jack.

oops wrong quotes there.

pretend those are italics

Too complicated.

As if that would ever stop them from something ridiculous!

not just complicated but really fucking stupid. i guess that wouldn't stop them either.

Since it's been established that MIB can imitate people who have died or are corpses on-island, it makes total sense. (Can the audience handle MIB possessing two people simultaneously though? That would be what would stop me as one of the writers, it's too confusing, like you say. But I've been wrong before.)

I really don't think it's the case. 1) Because it is silly and needlessly overcomplicated and 2)because they were setting up this specific Jacob angle since last season with the guitar case and Hurley's reason for coming. Though of course, lol at it being just an ankh with another list inside.

I am glad they're finally tackling 'the sickness' though, even though I can't see where it's going. It must be related to MIB and possession in some way ('claimed'). Yeah, the guitar case was a major disappointment! I feel for Hurley lugging that huge thing around when all they needed was a slip of paper.

I hope the sickness is tied somehow into the broken statue and the whole pregnancy/kidnapping angle, and that gets a good explanation and back story.