The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

Ahaha, yep, that's the one.

The rabbits part of this movie works much better in its original quicktime Lynch Secret Clip-of-the-Month subscription model.

my main problem with In the Mood for Love is it wants to be about "love," but is much more interested in nice clothes and cigarettes.

obv I like IE, had it around 20th mebbe

Your serious check is in the serious mail, j.

man i am so happy IE placed at all.

Way way way too low for inland empire.

Edward III's summation is excellent

(Also, God help me if jaymc was anywhere near the gay threads whenever it was I posted a pic of myself in short shorts.)

a lot of these screengrabs/stills are just filling me with joy over the fact that movies exist at all

but yeah I fear for what beat it out (Wall-E? gimme a fucking break)

also, the soundtrack to Inland Empire was incredible, really added something. And I liked the digital video better in this movie than in anything else I've seen, especially in the facial close-ups and walking scenes, super creepy

morbs, i am totally in favor of that, 'in the mood for excellent fashion + cigarettes' doesn't sound too nice as a film title

oh hey and in full disclosure mode i was the #1 vote for that one, so obv that is why i have that opinion xxxxxxpost

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^^^scariest moment I've ever experienced in a movie theater

I've read somewhere that the whole movie grew out of that extended monologue/interview with Nikki/Susan, where she trash talks, describing her escalating degradation

they showed soundgarden videos in the movie theater?

When the police came and they asked what happened, I told them "He's reaping what he's been sowing, that's what." They said "Fucker been sowing some pretty heavy shit."

the rabbits and the closeup on grace z are my favorite moments in IE

n/a's review of IE is the Lynch movie I'd like to see filmed.

IE never played in South Florida, so I bought it on DVD. Doesn't play well.

they showed soundgarden videos in the movie theater?

haha it is like that shitty video but I dunno in the context of the film and on the big-screen... I mean its followed by like some weird face-melting with flies around it and accompanied by (I think?) a Penderecki piece its pretty arresting

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In the Mood For Love is akin to a late eighties Bryan Ferry record.

n/a's review of IE is the Lynch movie I'd like to see filmed

That's pretty much the first 10 minutes and the weiner roast scene from The Straight Story.

There's more of the Rabbits serial floating around internet, if that's the part you liked.

coming from you, i don't know whether that means it's the greatest film ever made or something else xxpost

agree with philip re the rabbits films (was it just called Rabbits?)

coming from you, i don't know whether that means it's the greatest film ever made or something else xxpost

ha -- it means it's there if you want it, but otherwise *shrug*

dunno what this says about me, but lynch taps into some kind of pre-linguistic zone of nightmare-terror logic for me. i found every moment of this movie to be suffused with a real palpable dread. the bunnies freaked my shit right out. i felt the same way about eraserhead. haunting, and not entirely in a good way. it's not something he does every time, cos mulholland drive, or wild at heart didn't give me that feeling. nor the straight story lawl.

i haven't seen IE, i hated david lynch and then there was all this talk about the brilliance of 'mulholland drive' so i rented that and.. nothing has changed.

dunno what this says about me, but lynch taps into some kind of pre-linguistic zone of nightmare-terror logic for me. i found every moment of this movie to be suffused with a real palpable dread. the bunnies freaked my shit right out. i felt the same way about eraserhead. haunting, and not entirely in a good way. it's not something he does every time, cos mulholland drive, or wild at heart didn't give me that feeling. nor the straight story lawl.

― goole, Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:24 AM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

me too exactly but the bum in MD terrified me pretty good

oh yes

large swathes of Lost Highway frightened the hell out of me

IE is legitimately the scariest movie i have seen in the last 10 years, no exaggeration.

basically BOB crawling over the couch

it's not just the images but the absurd and arbitrary and wholly un-cinematic way they persist, cut into one another, and recur. why is this shot taking as long as it is? why am i looking at this? why am i being shown these things?? he delivers that i-want-to-run-why-can't-i-run feeling really really well

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saw this last night. it's quite good. love herzog's voice overs, especially where he interjects some subjectivity and differs from Treadwell's philosophy, or attempt to understand them for himself. oddly, it didn't feel so much like a documentary because all the minor characters--the coroner, Treadwell's actor friend, the helicopter pilot (down to the fact that he chews on a piece of long grass when they go out to scatter TT's ashes!), etc.--seemed so much like actors paid to play the parts. the coroner's 'performance' was especially compelling. while he didn't steal the show from Treadwell, he managed to come very close.

― robots in love

I thought this was one of the best movies I've seen this year.
At the NY premiere; Herzog, Treadwell's ex girl and a bear expert who had been mauled and had half his face ripped off by a grizzly had a fun roundtable afterward.
Highlight:
Guy in audience - "Mr. Herzog, what is the point of the movie?"
Werner - "What is the point of children?"

― Forksclovetofu

I'm not sure I *ENJOYED* it so much. The film analyzed a very twisted side of one guy's self-destructive savior-complex which was deeply unsettling and complicated... it makes for a fascinating character study at any rate.

― gygax!

What I actually found to be one of the most fascinating things about Treadwell was that here, in the middle of wilderness surrounded by dangerous bears, and in the process of what's supposed to be a spiritual, transformational experience (and I don't doubt that it is for him), Treadwell still does 15 TAKES OF HIS EXPLANATIONS. He even shoots footage of him running through the woods to be intercut into some future (movie? TV series?)! He does the take over and over again with different bandanas to avoid continuity errors!

― Hurting

Just saw it this afternoon. It really is good. One thing that struck me was the contrast between Herzog's European quasi-nihilism ("I think the common denominator of the universe is not harmony but chaos, hostility and murder") and Treadwell's very American New Agey quasi-mysticism. But then also the way that Treadwell's beatific happy talk was a facade for a much darker sense of alienation, and Herzog's fatalism is also fundamentally sympathetic and humanistic. It's a really interesting pairing of sensibilities.

― gypsy mothra

what an extraordinary movie. i think the decision to not show the tape is as much an aesthetic one as a moral one. the scene of him listening to it and NOT showing it is so much more memorable, and brilliant really, than a scene where the tape IS presented.

― s1ocki

TEH GRIZZLY MAN

#12

Grizzly Man
Werner Herzog
2005
United States/Germany
(696.5 points, 32 votes, 2 first place)

shocker!

Called it! (not really)

not really, like 10 people admitted voting for it throughout this thread

"nor the straight story lawl."

This thing mixes the soundtrack from rabbits and an excerpt from straight story -- damn if
matthew farnsworth doesn't turn into a menacing drifter:

http://twoyoutubevideosandamotherfuckingcrossfader.com/#_qWIlgemp9k/d1pKEI-Sv-8

I voted for this one

so glad ITMFL placed, though I gotta say, I kinda hate WKW for romanticizing hong kong in all his movies - the real thing just doesn't quite match up

redeeming some of the other crap on this list now

"When faced with the jeering and hollering of the 1,500 booing patrons who despised his Lessons of Darkness at the Berlin Film Festival, Herzog shouted back: "You are all wrong."

love ya Werner don't ever change

Grizzly Man is a great movie.

every scene in inland empire was a peak experience - a part that wouldve been the climax in an ordinary movie was just one of many - it sounds monotonously overbearing but each piece was intense in its own unique way - david lynch just calmly and methodically displaying the myriad ways he has to fuck w/you - such a ridiculous display of virtuosity

I said "not really." Sheesh.

definitely paired in my mind with the book 'Into the Wild'. Treadwell came across as more complex then McCandless, but it was also harder for me to empathize with him. Part of that is the medium too I think.

Really? From Into the Wild I felt like McCandless was a heartless asshole after like the frist 30 pages.

It was harder for me to turn down the cynical/obvious 'what a dumbass' voice in Grizzly Man then it was in Krackhauers book.

xpost - yeah they are definitely both assholes to an extent