The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

dismissing a film for appealing to people "who just don't appreciate the genre" = PASS

compendium of vampire cliches shoved clunkily through brooding euro filter.

sounds unbearable. vampire movies probably my least favorite horror movie subgenre to begin with - very rare that anyone does anything interesting with the concept.

xxp wait, what?

but yeah there doesn't seem to be much defending of this latest crop of winners, what's up with that.

One of my favourite films in a long time, who gives a shit what genre you think it's meant to be?
Made me want to read the book; haven't yet. Film is better on second watching, too.

sorry, much like snobs in other fields, i can't trust your taste in horror unless you've watched all the discs on each of the four silent night, deadly night dvds. i just can't.

DUMPLINGS! was far better.

you did that on purpose.

Just wanted to do the DUMPLINGS! thing again. Sorry. Carry on.

middlebrow dilletantism 4eva!!

lol (w/you on that)

― Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:04 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

i'm kind of kidding, btw. i mean, yes, paul simon and madonna are imperialist thieves, but graceland and vogue still bang.

crouching tiger, very beautiful and romantic! i'll see all those chinese films someday (or not) i'm sure they're great.

(btw no one considers "the toy maker" a true sn, dn film.)

I voted for LiT but decided after Dogville there'd be too much shock & awe to bother defending anything on this thread.

lol

How many more are we getting today? I need to go out!

jaymc, just wallowing in my pet theme that if anyone practiced this level of middlebrow dilletantism re music on ILM, y'all would make Wanted posters of the individdle. Which is related to why we're not allowed to have an active I Love Film: cuz it needs to remain so darn accessible to you middbrows.

I thought Lost in Translation was a pretty but superficial movie about an idea that's been done better many times, by directors like Jim Jarmusch for example. And Crouching Tiger was visually and kinetically nice, but the plot was messy and the characters uninteresting. I don't care what sort of brows they appeal to, I just didn't think they were good movies.

sorry to hear everyone was banned from ilf ;_;

John Hurt on Lost in Translation:

"There were no levels on which this film deserves an award. Neither technical, screenplay, acting nor cinematography. I will resign from the Academy in protest if this film is to win any Oscars".

(He didn't make good on that, did he? Coppola won screenplay, IIRC.)

i have no problem with the middlebrow. i just want it to be as good as the other brows.

This is some serious unibrow shit.

Ed3, there is a lengthy thread on most every one of these pikshas.

― Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:08 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah but that doesn't improve the readability of this thread

where is nabisco when we need him most

he's on the mount

jaymc, just wallowing in my pet theme that if anyone practiced this level of middlebrow dilletantism re music on ILM, y'all would make Wanted posters of the individdle. Which is related to why we're not allowed to have an active I Love Film: cuz it needs to remain so darn accessible to you middbrows.

― Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:18 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah right, ILM hates pop entertainment

btw i <3ed LTROI... tho im not a big horror dude or anything

seriously tho morbs there is so much wrong with that post i don't even know where to start.

middlebrow doesn't really equal pop entertainment

I assume Morbz didn't vote in the ILM 2009 trax poll lolz (or is he actuallyu a big closet fan of Ratface McGee or whatever her name is)

Sorry, Morbs, you wrong.

it's just rich to see a guy who goes to bat for ET, eternal sunshine of the spotless mind, crazy heart and the simpsons movie railing against us middlebrow dilletantes. sorry dude, but you're as "middle" as they come.

^^exactly

Isn't middlebrow just the result of consensus voting? The ILM trax poll was pretty middlebrow in its upper reaches, too

despite its music elitist paradise rep, what i love about ILM is that people feel free to bring up and discuss whatever kind of music they like, from the super-obscure to the #1iest of the charts—if ILF was like that, it'd be great, but step outside the completely random aesthetic boundaries morbs has drawn and you gotta put up with all this fuckin' groaning and harrumphing

I dunno, I'm a pretty big middlebrow dilettante when it comes to both movies and music. I basically consume the stuff that I read about and hear people talk about that looks interesting -- taking 90% of my cues from ILM, Pitchfork, and Stylus -- and don't really do a whole lot of active seeking-out and exploring beyond that. I like stuff in a lot of different genres, but the only rolling genre thread I participate in is the pop one, since I don't know enough about Aeroplane DJ sets or Freddie Gibbs mixtapes to participate.

(That should read: "...to participate in the others.")

i dont think there's anything wrong with dillentantism, in music or movies or whatever. i think it's great!

D'oh, I definitely posted some middle-brow questions on ILF (ID this middle-brow film I fell asleep through or something). had no idea that was frowned upon.

i think posting on ilf at all is frowned upon

l-ing f is frowned up

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horror flick for people "not usually into that sort of thing" = PASS

― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:51 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark

epic rong

i have shelves full of crappy clive barker books to prove it. they have to count for something goddamnit.

step outside the completely random aesthetic boundaries morbs has drawn

Nah, the boundaries were set by Jay Blanchard and BabyBuddha back when Morbs only posted on I Love Baseball.

i dont know what that means - but im willing to learn

ppl who love Shaun of the Dead but hate 28 Days Later based on "fealty to the zombie genre (zombies don't sprint)" take it to a whole 'nother level of geekdom imo

when 4months, 3weeks and 2days showed up on the poll morbs response was "armond right, romania overrated". this is after his moaning about iran and china being ignored. you don't have to like 4/3/2 but, since it came totally out of leftfield, i can't see how any adventurous cinema goer wouldn't be pleased at that result. i just don't understand what he wants at all.

attention?

Morbs wants people to like movies that he likes, it's not that complicated.

The fightback begins. This thread has been batshit at times: sneering down at Memento, full of hate for Napoleon Dynamite, but then celebrating the likes of 40-year-old Virgin like it's a masterpiece.

step outside the completely random aesthetic boundaries morbs has drawn

Nah, the boundaries were set by Jay Blanchard and BabyBuddha back when Morbs only posted on I Love Baseball.

― Lusty Mo Frazier (jaymc), Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:49 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

there are plenty of ppl on ilm who are loud about their random aesthetic boundaries; its just that ilf doesnt have enough other passionate posters to drown out the noise

i feel like i see less aggro name-calling and shit on ILM but maybe i dont read it that much