The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

yeah i can't understand why i'm the only person here who has a good word to say for Lost in Translation and i didn't even vote for it.

would love it if ppl would post one concrete reason they did not like a film besides "this is crap! that was shit!"

that was re alfred's point

edward i'm pretty sure "compendium of vampire cliches shoved clunkily through brooding euro filter" pretty neatly summarized my distaste for ltroi.

For me, Let The Right One In was just *outstanding*, but it's too recent to tell if it can be compared to Cache, Adaptation, 35 Shots of Rum, Jesse James or Miami Vice (my other favs).

Ed3, there is a lengthy thread on most every one of these pikshas.

i feel confident but have no proof that LTROI wouldnt have placed at all if it had been released anytime before 2008

There are a lot of movies that I voted for because I loved them when I first saw them but don't necessarily remember enough about why to mount a defense years later. Everything in the top 20 from my 2000-04 list made my 2000-09 list by default.

naturally i don't get your little in-joke, Lamp. i'll just presume it's douchey for now.

I thought Let The Right One In was fine, but not particularly interesting. Though kudos to the visuals - I really liked the way it looked. Excellent lighting.

i mean i'd rather watch a ploddingly paced middlebrow ecstacy-of-ennui flick about friggin' vampires rather than lovesick twentysomethings but we're talking degrees of distaste at that point.

middlebrow dilletantism 4eva!!

lol (w/you on that)

― Hoisin Murphy (jaymc)

News to all of us!

dismissing a film for appealing to people "who just don't appreciate the genre" = PASS

compendium of vampire cliches shoved clunkily through brooding euro filter.

sounds unbearable. vampire movies probably my least favorite horror movie subgenre to begin with - very rare that anyone does anything interesting with the concept.

xxp wait, what?

but yeah there doesn't seem to be much defending of this latest crop of winners, what's up with that.

One of my favourite films in a long time, who gives a shit what genre you think it's meant to be?
Made me want to read the book; haven't yet. Film is better on second watching, too.

sorry, much like snobs in other fields, i can't trust your taste in horror unless you've watched all the discs on each of the four silent night, deadly night dvds. i just can't.

DUMPLINGS! was far better.

you did that on purpose.

Just wanted to do the DUMPLINGS! thing again. Sorry. Carry on.

middlebrow dilletantism 4eva!!

lol (w/you on that)

― Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:04 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

i'm kind of kidding, btw. i mean, yes, paul simon and madonna are imperialist thieves, but graceland and vogue still bang.

crouching tiger, very beautiful and romantic! i'll see all those chinese films someday (or not) i'm sure they're great.

(btw no one considers "the toy maker" a true sn, dn film.)

I voted for LiT but decided after Dogville there'd be too much shock & awe to bother defending anything on this thread.

lol

How many more are we getting today? I need to go out!

jaymc, just wallowing in my pet theme that if anyone practiced this level of middlebrow dilletantism re music on ILM, y'all would make Wanted posters of the individdle. Which is related to why we're not allowed to have an active I Love Film: cuz it needs to remain so darn accessible to you middbrows.

I thought Lost in Translation was a pretty but superficial movie about an idea that's been done better many times, by directors like Jim Jarmusch for example. And Crouching Tiger was visually and kinetically nice, but the plot was messy and the characters uninteresting. I don't care what sort of brows they appeal to, I just didn't think they were good movies.

sorry to hear everyone was banned from ilf ;_;

John Hurt on Lost in Translation:

"There were no levels on which this film deserves an award. Neither technical, screenplay, acting nor cinematography. I will resign from the Academy in protest if this film is to win any Oscars".

(He didn't make good on that, did he? Coppola won screenplay, IIRC.)

i have no problem with the middlebrow. i just want it to be as good as the other brows.

This is some serious unibrow shit.

Ed3, there is a lengthy thread on most every one of these pikshas.

― Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:08 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah but that doesn't improve the readability of this thread

where is nabisco when we need him most

he's on the mount

jaymc, just wallowing in my pet theme that if anyone practiced this level of middlebrow dilletantism re music on ILM, y'all would make Wanted posters of the individdle. Which is related to why we're not allowed to have an active I Love Film: cuz it needs to remain so darn accessible to you middbrows.

― Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, February 10, 2010 5:18 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah right, ILM hates pop entertainment

btw i <3ed LTROI... tho im not a big horror dude or anything

seriously tho morbs there is so much wrong with that post i don't even know where to start.

middlebrow doesn't really equal pop entertainment

I assume Morbz didn't vote in the ILM 2009 trax poll lolz (or is he actuallyu a big closet fan of Ratface McGee or whatever her name is)

Sorry, Morbs, you wrong.

it's just rich to see a guy who goes to bat for ET, eternal sunshine of the spotless mind, crazy heart and the simpsons movie railing against us middlebrow dilletantes. sorry dude, but you're as "middle" as they come.

^^exactly

Isn't middlebrow just the result of consensus voting? The ILM trax poll was pretty middlebrow in its upper reaches, too

despite its music elitist paradise rep, what i love about ILM is that people feel free to bring up and discuss whatever kind of music they like, from the super-obscure to the #1iest of the charts—if ILF was like that, it'd be great, but step outside the completely random aesthetic boundaries morbs has drawn and you gotta put up with all this fuckin' groaning and harrumphing

I dunno, I'm a pretty big middlebrow dilettante when it comes to both movies and music. I basically consume the stuff that I read about and hear people talk about that looks interesting -- taking 90% of my cues from ILM, Pitchfork, and Stylus -- and don't really do a whole lot of active seeking-out and exploring beyond that. I like stuff in a lot of different genres, but the only rolling genre thread I participate in is the pop one, since I don't know enough about Aeroplane DJ sets or Freddie Gibbs mixtapes to participate.

(That should read: "...to participate in the others.")

i dont think there's anything wrong with dillentantism, in music or movies or whatever. i think it's great!

D'oh, I definitely posted some middle-brow questions on ILF (ID this middle-brow film I fell asleep through or something). had no idea that was frowned upon.

i think posting on ilf at all is frowned upon

l-ing f is frowned up