The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

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"I knew I was gonna follow this director and he was going to do big/interesting stuff"

I knew this was going to be the last movie of his that I liked.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:45 (sixteen years ago)

go easy on the lists of what we voted for that haven't placed yet

caek, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:45 (sixteen years ago)

xp shakey: on the other hand - I felt the same way with Soderbergh after seeing Schizopolis, and then ...

sarahel, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:45 (sixteen years ago)

No, I voted for Some Kind of Monster, too. And I gave 40 pts. to Daniel Johnston. Also, voted for Spellbound, DiG!, King of Kong, and The Wild Parrots of Telegraph Hill (although I knew that one didn't stand a chance in hell).
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Darin, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:45 (sixteen years ago)

Profit & Nothing But! Or Impolite Thoughts on the Class Struggle" - I haven't even heard of this! Tell me more!

It's an anti-globalization/neoliberalism documentary made by a Haitian filmmaker. Very polemic and strongly left-wing, but done with skill nevertheless.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:46 (sixteen years ago)

Wild Parrots is a great movie!

SMALL BONES, SMALL BODIES (jjjusten), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:48 (sixteen years ago)

after Schizopolis he made Out of Sight u klutz

zvookster, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:48 (sixteen years ago)

i can still remember going w/ my friend to the one shitty theater that was anywhere near me that was playing 'memento' in waterbury, ct & knowing little to nothing abt it other than part of it went backwards or some shit...such innocent times imo

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:48 (sixteen years ago)

would vote in a documentaries showdown of all time btw

SMALL BONES, SMALL BODIES (jjjusten), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:48 (sixteen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/ghostworld.jpg

i saw it. it was really great. thora birch is a cute one.steve bucemi as a record club ner that only listens to 30s jazz was heart warming and i wanted to fuck thora birch through the whole thing.

― chaki

Yes, it is very good. I mean, I actually cared about the characters (well, Enid and Seymour). I'm very glad as well that it was made now rather than when Eightball and the like were at their peak -- what would have been another "slacker" film ended up being something much sweeter and more touching coming on the heels of the post-irony, pro-prosperity late 1990s. Or something like that.

Oh, the studio's first chioce for Enid was...wait for it...Jennifer Love Hewitt.

― scott p.

It's really good. And odd. The pacing and editing is all slightly... off. At first I wasn't sure if this was intentional, but it must be because the pacing and timing is SO consistent. The punchlines come a beat too late. Or not at all. Or at the beginning of the joke instead of the end. Quiet awkward moments. Small details and glances; you wonder why the film's pointing them out? And as you roll along the weight of those details really comes home. I think many ppl on this board will appreciate the attitude about art, what is it, what's worth noticing.

― Tracer Hand

I liked it the first time I saw it. Then I watched it with my mom. She kept saying, "You've already seen this before??? And you wanted to see it AGAIN??" She didn't get any of the humour either. She kept saying Thora's character was bitter and mean. I think the whole thing made me like the movie even more.

I didn't like the ending either, except that it added a level of fantasy to the movie which made it more fairytale-ish (or comic book-ish).

I felt like the movie was mostly about how people change/ finding your own identity. Thora's character grows apart from her first best friend and it's a rather painful thing to have to go through. I could definitely relate to that. I had a best friend in high school who always talked about us moving in together upon graduation. But in the end we wanted different things and she wasn't able to discuss logistics at all to make it a reality.

― Sarah McLusky

Has anyone seen Ghost World yet?

#17

Ghost World
Terry Zwigoff
2001
United States
(554 points, 21 votes)

('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:49 (sixteen years ago)

sigh.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:49 (sixteen years ago)

ghost world is p. great

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:50 (sixteen years ago)

Bleah.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:50 (sixteen years ago)

though i have to say i watched it again last year for the first time since it came out and it held up WAY better than i expected.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:50 (sixteen years ago)

definitely feels more like a hangover from the '90s than a '00s film, tho

strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:50 (sixteen years ago)

idk, im ok w/memento on here (cant remember if i voted for it, prob not). its a pretty well crafted little exercise, and the performances were really good imo (esp the little mustachio dude i can never remember the name of but always love when i see him).

SMALL BONES, SMALL BODIES (jjjusten), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:51 (sixteen years ago)

"funk-ay"

┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:51 (sixteen years ago)

was hoping this would show up. so much better that Bad Santa imo

Dan S, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:51 (sixteen years ago)

yea i def had 2 check release date 4 ghost world & memento 2 double check

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:51 (sixteen years ago)

chaki prob summing up ilx appeal there: record club nerd + wanting to fuck thora birch

zvookster, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:51 (sixteen years ago)

after Schizopolis he made Out of Sight u klutz

― zvookster, Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:48 AM (2 minutes ago)

I was thinking of the Ocean's movies, you CHUD

sarahel, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:52 (sixteen years ago)

just want to take this time to remind everyone* that Art School Confidential is one of the worst movies in the history of cinema.

*everyone = Bad Santa & Ghost World voters

┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:52 (sixteen years ago)

Thora Birch so much better in Pregnancy Pact.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:52 (sixteen years ago)

chaki prob summing up ilx appeal there: record club nerd + wanting to fuck thora birch

otm, I'm not sure what else this movie had going for it

iatee, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:52 (sixteen years ago)

i didn't mind Ghost World, but #17?

sofatruck, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:52 (sixteen years ago)

Shasta i voted both GW & BS & ttly agree

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:53 (sixteen years ago)

I thought Art School Confidential was funny - but primarily because I know so many people that went to art school, and I've seen a lot of art school exhibitions - but then I didn't vote for Ghost World or Bad Santa. I don't want to fuck Thora Birch either.

sarahel, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:54 (sixteen years ago)

Results are bumming me out today.

Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:54 (sixteen years ago)

Ghost World is good, but as unfair as this sounds, it's impossible for me to like it as much as the comic, mostly because of the changes it made to the story. I really don't think the Steve Buscemi character was a necessary addition, and the time devoted to him took away from the relationship between Enid and Rebecca (Rebecca was much blander in the movie), which was always the most interesting part of the comic.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:54 (sixteen years ago)

really wish zwigoff and clowes had adapted "ugly girls" over "art school confidential"

strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:54 (sixteen years ago)

Hahaha!

Tuomas, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:55 (sixteen years ago)

Also, Art School Confidential the movie kinda suffered from the fact that the best bits of the original comic were already used in Ghost World.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:56 (sixteen years ago)

Guess I should check this out, the poster kind of put me off.
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.asylum.com/media/2009/12/ghost-world-poster-ghost-world-2854137-781-1161.jpg

The Man With the Magic Eardrums (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:57 (sixteen years ago)

I'm holding out for a Pixar version of "Like a Velvet Glove Cast in Iron".

Darin, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:57 (sixteen years ago)

most of clowes best stuff would become indefensible indie film cliches if transposed to celluoid tbh

strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:57 (sixteen years ago)

can't imagine the maudlin-fest if someone got their hands on "caricature" or the juno quirk-ifying that would befall david boring

strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:58 (sixteen years ago)

ghost world is so... mediocre. and art school confidential is so horrible. it's amazing how perfect bad santa is.

wall•egina (s1ocki), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:58 (sixteen years ago)

Ghost World is good, but as unfair as this sounds, it's impossible for me to like it as much as the comic, mostly because of the changes it made to the story. I really don't think the Steve Buscemi character was a necessary addition, and the time devoted to him took away from the relationship between Enid and Rebecca (Rebecca was much blander in the movie), which was always the most interesting part of the comic.

― Tuomas, Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:54 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i feel pretty much the same. the relationship b/w the two girls was really stripped down in a bad way. and visually it was so unambitious.

wall•egina (s1ocki), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:58 (sixteen years ago)

I have love for ghost world, but art school confidential is indeed totally wretched.

Simon H., Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:59 (sixteen years ago)

Totally meh film, but I still say "you guys up for some reggae tonight?"

caek, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 20:00 (sixteen years ago)

lol ghost world

pro bono publico (history mayne), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 20:01 (sixteen years ago)

rock and roll baby!! freedom of speech!!

goole, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 20:01 (sixteen years ago)

didn't vote for it but 'ghost world' was alright, i also figured it had to be a 90s film. enid def reminded me of one of my high school 'friends,' also i suppose i kind of dressed like that from about 94 to 97

kicker conspiracy (b. favre ha ha) (daria-g), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 20:01 (sixteen years ago)

The original comic came out in the 90s, maybe that's why.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 20:03 (sixteen years ago)

I think I still make Blueshammer jokes every few years.

Darin, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 20:03 (sixteen years ago)

reggae and Blueshammer are worthwhile legacies imo

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 20:03 (sixteen years ago)

yeah I totally forgot Memento and Ghost World came out in the 00s lolz.

Ghost World is okay but Thora Birch's character is such a loathsome bitch

mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 20:04 (sixteen years ago)

yeah the problem with the film is that rebecca was so bland that you couldn't figure out why enid would be so heartbroken about the deterioration of their relationship. they seemed more like co-conspirators in the first half of the comic that came slowly out of sync.

admittedly this may be more the fault of scarjo than the script.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 20:05 (sixteen years ago)

lol the fucking INCREDIBLES? jesus christ ilx you crypto-randian fucks.

pro bono publico (history mayne), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 20:05 (sixteen years ago)

Shakey, I think it's intentional that Enid is unlikable.

Tuomas, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 20:05 (sixteen years ago)


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