The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

also memento and adaptation margin = .5 points

srsly baffled my memento placing

ridiculous movie

pretty sure Memento's "that low" placing is due to a bunch of people - including me - feeling the same as iatee

"I haven't seen it for like 8 years but I still gave it some points"

memento is much much less than the sum of its parts. a twist ending! well done, back to the 90s with you. *pats on head*

you should have announced memento in #79 and #78 or some shit

I haven't seen Memento since it came it out, but I remember liking it back then. I think it's one of those "concept movies" that has a cool basic idea you can appreciate while watching it, but when it's over and the puzzle is finished, the movie doesn't really stay with you. Nothing wrong with that, but Memento just wasn't memorable enough for me to vote for it 9 years later.

srsly baffled my memento placing

― ice cr?m

^This. Utterly mediocre film. Might have enjoyed the 20 page story that inspired it. Might.

I'm almost worried to see it again cause I don't want to be like 'o wait this is kinda lame'

sarahel otm re: memento

I unreservedly love Memento both for its formal conceit and for its ultimate underlying point about the malleability/unreliability of memory

in general I hate monologues that sum up a movie, but the last one in Memento is A+

What's that picture of Sarah Palin doing up there?

memento is great, suck it haters

I thought memento was exactly the sum of its parts - so it was "back to the 90s" - whatever. There were a lot of movies this decade that it influenced.

also, pretty sure all of Nolan's movies have climactic monologues (don't remember Insomnia)

I liked Memento better than Awakenings if we're rating Oliver Sachs movies.

the idea of telling the story backwards to give you the same sense of confusion as the guy with amnesia is UNDENIABLY neato.

love adaptation!

ah no it isn't, it just ruins it. a whole movie of intricately done show-don't-tell, leading up to... joe pantoliano reading some indie-crime movie exposition at you. what a letdown! xp2 shakey

I mean, we covered all that shit about Palin's hand in the "US politics."

wasn't Insomnia a remake of a Scandinavian movie?

docs i voted for (in no order):

muderball
grizzly man
man on wire
dogtown & z-boys
jackass
sin nombre
77Boadrum

i mean i know it caused a stir upon release, but memento seems liek one of those fun movies u forget abt right after

tuomas (and sarahel) i know that we have had our disagreements in the past, but i extend an olive branch to fellow "Dark Days" fans, that movie was amazing.

80% of my votes on this were documentaries or horror films, so with a couple of exceptions these last 20 are going to be v v sad for me

memento seems liek one of those fun movies u forget abt right after

lol irony

i think memento is pretty excellent but i didn't vote for it, mostly because i think it's kind of excellent as nothing more than a genre exercise and not much else. i mean, there's nothing wrong with that and it's just really well-executed but it's not top 40 material for me.

i had hopes for devil and daniel johnston as well. so sad.

sin nombre was a doc??
xxp

Speaking of documentaries, am I the only one who voted for Some Kind of Monster?

memento placement can be explained by a third of voters giving it middle of the pack status

Sin Nombre isn't a doc.

I voted for "Dark Days", "Deep Blue", "Bodysong" (if you can call that one a documentary), and "Profit & Nothing But! Or Impolite Thoughts on the Class Struggle".

(Yeah, I know the last one is very much in character, but it's a good documentary, seriously!)

iow shameful

xxp

h8 documentaries

Profit & Nothing But! Or Impolite Thoughts on the Class Struggle" - I haven't even heard of this! Tell me more!

jackass is not a doc.

I'm in the memento = mediocrity camp tho

hate old movies love new movies

I do agree Memento's appeal is tilted REALLY heavily to its lone narrative trick - but its also the kind of movie that when I saw it, I knew I was gonna follow this director and he was going to do big/interesting stuff. Similar to seeing Peter Jackson's Dead Alive or Heavenly Creatures, its like one of those things where you can tell the director is making a gamble for name recognition, that he was throwing everything he had into this fairly novel concept. I think it works great.

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"I knew I was gonna follow this director and he was going to do big/interesting stuff"

I knew this was going to be the last movie of his that I liked.

go easy on the lists of what we voted for that haven't placed yet

xp shakey: on the other hand - I felt the same way with Soderbergh after seeing Schizopolis, and then ...

No, I voted for Some Kind of Monster, too. And I gave 40 pts. to Daniel Johnston. Also, voted for Spellbound, DiG!, King of Kong, and The Wild Parrots of Telegraph Hill (although I knew that one didn't stand a chance in hell).
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Profit & Nothing But! Or Impolite Thoughts on the Class Struggle" - I haven't even heard of this! Tell me more!

It's an anti-globalization/neoliberalism documentary made by a Haitian filmmaker. Very polemic and strongly left-wing, but done with skill nevertheless.

Wild Parrots is a great movie!

after Schizopolis he made Out of Sight u klutz

i can still remember going w/ my friend to the one shitty theater that was anywhere near me that was playing 'memento' in waterbury, ct & knowing little to nothing abt it other than part of it went backwards or some shit...such innocent times imo

would vote in a documentaries showdown of all time btw

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i saw it. it was really great. thora birch is a cute one.steve bucemi as a record club ner that only listens to 30s jazz was heart warming and i wanted to fuck thora birch through the whole thing.

― chaki

Yes, it is very good. I mean, I actually cared about the characters (well, Enid and Seymour). I'm very glad as well that it was made now rather than when Eightball and the like were at their peak -- what would have been another "slacker" film ended up being something much sweeter and more touching coming on the heels of the post-irony, pro-prosperity late 1990s. Or something like that.

Oh, the studio's first chioce for Enid was...wait for it...Jennifer Love Hewitt.

― scott p.

It's really good. And odd. The pacing and editing is all slightly... off. At first I wasn't sure if this was intentional, but it must be because the pacing and timing is SO consistent. The punchlines come a beat too late. Or not at all. Or at the beginning of the joke instead of the end. Quiet awkward moments. Small details and glances; you wonder why the film's pointing them out? And as you roll along the weight of those details really comes home. I think many ppl on this board will appreciate the attitude about art, what is it, what's worth noticing.

― Tracer Hand

I liked it the first time I saw it. Then I watched it with my mom. She kept saying, "You've already seen this before??? And you wanted to see it AGAIN??" She didn't get any of the humour either. She kept saying Thora's character was bitter and mean. I think the whole thing made me like the movie even more.

I didn't like the ending either, except that it added a level of fantasy to the movie which made it more fairytale-ish (or comic book-ish).

I felt like the movie was mostly about how people change/ finding your own identity. Thora's character grows apart from her first best friend and it's a rather painful thing to have to go through. I could definitely relate to that. I had a best friend in high school who always talked about us moving in together upon graduation. But in the end we wanted different things and she wasn't able to discuss logistics at all to make it a reality.

― Sarah McLusky

Has anyone seen Ghost World yet?

#17

Ghost World
Terry Zwigoff
2001
United States
(554 points, 21 votes)