for those wondering (or who like their lists in ascending order)
19. Adaptation20. Caché21. The Incredibles22. 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days23. Donnie Darko24. The Departed25. Superbad26. American Psycho 27. O Brother, Where Art Thou? 28. Pan's Labyrinth 29. Shaun of the Dead 30. Kill Bill: Vol. 1 31. Battle Royale 32. The New World 33. Rachel Getting Married34. The Bourne Supremacy35. Bad Santa36. Brokeback Mountain37. A History of Violence38. 24 Hour Party People39. A Serious Man40. The Bourne Identity41. The Dark Knight42. The Hurt Locker43. Gosford Park44. Oldboy 45. Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy46. Up47. Best in Show48. Kill Bill: Vol. 249. The 40 Year-Old Virgin50. I'm Not There51. Eastern Promises 52. Punch-Drunk Love 53. Before Sunset 54. Miami Vice 55. Munich56. Yi Yi: A One and a Two 57. Brick 58. You Can Count On Me 59. Sexy Beast 60. The Host 61. Audition 62. Borat63. Wet Hot American Summer64. Kings and Queen65. Kung Fu Hustle66. A.I. Artificial Intelligence67. Synecdoche, New York68. Elephant69. Far From Heaven70. Ratatouille71. 25th Hour72. Amelie73. The Triplets of Belleville74. In Bruges75. Y tu mamá también76. In the Loop77. The Squid & The Whale78. 28 Days Later79. Team America: World Police80. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly81. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring82. Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World83. Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle84. Finding Nemo85. Almost Famous86. All the Real Girls87. Minority Report88. Memories of Murder89. The Lives of Others90. Together91. Talk to Her92. Tropical Malady93. Sideways94. Napoleon Dynamite95. Capturing the Friedmans96. High Fidelity97. Happy-Go-Lucky98. Dogville99. The Piano Teacher100. Movern Callar
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:24 (sixteen years ago)
we still might see the fog of war
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:25 (sixteen years ago)
been seeing that all thread amirite
― zvookster, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:26 (sixteen years ago)
Oh shit, I totally forgot about King of Kong! I should've voted for it, it was very good!
Am I the only one who voted for Dark Days? That was the most moving (and possibly the best) documentary I've ever seen.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:26 (sixteen years ago)
Was Dark Days the one about the people that live in the subway tunnels?
― sarahel, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:27 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:27 (sixteen years ago)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/memento.jpg
As far as I can remember the huge plot hole is merely the one of motivation. When he discovers that he killed his wife he is happy to continue killing people as it drives him. However this relelntless and pointless chase of justice is based on a very selfish whim, which does not strictly fit the character we have come to believe.
There are a few similar motivational problems with Memento which can be excused due to the genre of film it is (Teddy is never more than a cypher) - but I really enjoyed it and thought it was virtuoso film- making, and in particular, writing.
― Pete
there was something more basic than that. the conceit of the film revolves around what the character/audience does and doesn't know (like all thrillers, but more so). i seem to recall reconstructing the order of events and realising there was a huge shortcut from the beginning to the end because of some obvious piece of information.
I did enjoy the film BTW -- certainly one of the better films i've seen in the last year or so -- but i'm damn positive there was something that didn't ring right with the plot mechanics. it's bugging me now.
― Alan Trewartha
I don't believe he killed his wife. But either way, biggest prob for me was how Natalie treats Leonard. When she sees him in her boyfriend's car and clothes she's all 'wtf!' but when she learns of his condition it's as though she suddenly doesn't care that her boyfriend is missing and Leonard has apparently nicked all his stuff. Yeah she manipulates him but she still ends up helping him, and never goes "where is my boyfriend you fucking retard!". Maybe she hated her bf but the script gives no indication of that (apart from showing him to be a drug-dealing douche).
Still, dope film, great idea and superbly executed - aside from minor misgivings like above.
― ledge
Memento
#18
MementoChristopher Nolan2000United States(546 points, 30 votes)
― ('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:28 (sixteen years ago)
xp - tuomas: I'd almost completely forgotten about it! I really liked it when I saw it - but that was almost a decade ago.
― sarahel, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:28 (sixteen years ago)
King of Kong got robbed.
Dark Days was good.
― Darin, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:29 (sixteen years ago)
every film in 11-20 one world title imo
― ^ now ya head is like *http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3310/volcanoqa2* (Lamp), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:30 (sixteen years ago)
Didn't vote for any docs but reluctantly dropped 'Man on Wire' and would've vote for 'Of Time and the City' if I'd saw it before I sent my votes in.
― The Man With the Magic Eardrums (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:30 (sixteen years ago)
Was that Daft Punk cartoon ever theatrically released? How y'all feel about that one compared with the top finishers?― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:42 AM (9 minutes ago)
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:42 AM (9 minutes ago)
it's excellent! tight, updated allegory on the music industry and devil at the crossroads mythology. its sad and the reveal/climax is pretty insane too (nods to Raiders iirc). made me appreciate side 2 so much more.
i was probably the only vote for it, I had it in the 30s iirc.
― ┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:31 (sixteen years ago)
30 votes! pretty good for a movie nobody talks about anymore. I haven't seen it for like 8 years but I still gave it some points cause I loved it so much in hs.
― iatee, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:31 (sixteen years ago)
surprised Memento is that low.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:32 (sixteen years ago)
also memento and adaptation margin = .5 points
― iatee, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:33 (sixteen years ago)
srsly baffled my memento placing
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:34 (sixteen years ago)
ridiculous movie
― jed_, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:35 (sixteen years ago)
pretty sure Memento's "that low" placing is due to a bunch of people - including me - feeling the same as iatee
"I haven't seen it for like 8 years but I still gave it some points"
― sarahel, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:35 (sixteen years ago)
memento is much much less than the sum of its parts. a twist ending! well done, back to the 90s with you. *pats on head*
― goole, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:35 (sixteen years ago)
you should have announced memento in #79 and #78 or some shit
― wall•egina (s1ocki), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:36 (sixteen years ago)
I haven't seen Memento since it came it out, but I remember liking it back then. I think it's one of those "concept movies" that has a cool basic idea you can appreciate while watching it, but when it's over and the puzzle is finished, the movie doesn't really stay with you. Nothing wrong with that, but Memento just wasn't memorable enough for me to vote for it 9 years later.
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:36 (sixteen years ago)
― ice cr?m
^This. Utterly mediocre film. Might have enjoyed the 20 page story that inspired it. Might.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:36 (sixteen years ago)
I'm almost worried to see it again cause I don't want to be like 'o wait this is kinda lame'
― iatee, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:36 (sixteen years ago)
sarahel otm re: memento
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:37 (sixteen years ago)
I unreservedly love Memento both for its formal conceit and for its ultimate underlying point about the malleability/unreliability of memory
― mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:37 (sixteen years ago)
in general I hate monologues that sum up a movie, but the last one in Memento is A+
What's that picture of Sarah Palin doing up there?
― Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:38 (sixteen years ago)
memento is great, suck it haters
― Simon H., Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:38 (sixteen years ago)
I thought memento was exactly the sum of its parts - so it was "back to the 90s" - whatever. There were a lot of movies this decade that it influenced.
― sarahel, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:38 (sixteen years ago)
also, pretty sure all of Nolan's movies have climactic monologues (don't remember Insomnia)
I liked Memento better than Awakenings if we're rating Oliver Sachs movies.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:39 (sixteen years ago)
the idea of telling the story backwards to give you the same sense of confusion as the guy with amnesia is UNDENIABLY neato.
― take me to your lemur (ledge), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:39 (sixteen years ago)
love adaptation!
― horseshoe, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:39 (sixteen years ago)
ah no it isn't, it just ruins it. a whole movie of intricately done show-don't-tell, leading up to... joe pantoliano reading some indie-crime movie exposition at you. what a letdown! xp2 shakey
― goole, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:40 (sixteen years ago)
I mean, we covered all that shit about Palin's hand in the "US politics."
― Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:40 (sixteen years ago)
wasn't Insomnia a remake of a Scandinavian movie?
― sarahel, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:40 (sixteen years ago)
docs i voted for (in no order):
muderballgrizzly manman on wiredogtown & z-boysjackasssin nombre77Boadrum
― ┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:40 (sixteen years ago)
i mean i know it caused a stir upon release, but memento seems liek one of those fun movies u forget abt right after
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:40 (sixteen years ago)
tuomas (and sarahel) i know that we have had our disagreements in the past, but i extend an olive branch to fellow "Dark Days" fans, that movie was amazing.
80% of my votes on this were documentaries or horror films, so with a couple of exceptions these last 20 are going to be v v sad for me
― SMALL BONES, SMALL BODIES (jjjusten), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:41 (sixteen years ago)
memento seems liek one of those fun movies u forget abt right after
lol irony
― mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:41 (sixteen years ago)
i think memento is pretty excellent but i didn't vote for it, mostly because i think it's kind of excellent as nothing more than a genre exercise and not much else. i mean, there's nothing wrong with that and it's just really well-executed but it's not top 40 material for me.
― ('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:41 (sixteen years ago)
i had hopes for devil and daniel johnston as well. so sad.
― SMALL BONES, SMALL BODIES (jjjusten), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:42 (sixteen years ago)
sin nombre was a doc??xxp
― mizzell, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:42 (sixteen years ago)
Speaking of documentaries, am I the only one who voted for Some Kind of Monster?
― sarahel, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:42 (sixteen years ago)
memento placement can be explained by a third of voters giving it middle of the pack status
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:42 (sixteen years ago)
Sin Nombre isn't a doc.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:42 (sixteen years ago)
I voted for "Dark Days", "Deep Blue", "Bodysong" (if you can call that one a documentary), and "Profit & Nothing But! Or Impolite Thoughts on the Class Struggle".
(Yeah, I know the last one is very much in character, but it's a good documentary, seriously!)
― Tuomas, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:43 (sixteen years ago)
iow shameful
xxp
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:43 (sixteen years ago)
h8 documentaries
― ice cr?m, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:43 (sixteen years ago)
Profit & Nothing But! Or Impolite Thoughts on the Class Struggle" - I haven't even heard of this! Tell me more!
― sarahel, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:43 (sixteen years ago)