The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

"finally, a 'm.e.r.c.' machine to call my own."

prolly your upthread defense of napoleon dynamite and cameron crowe, missed your expressed love of MD tho

What can I say: I contain multitudes, bro.

Also, I wasn't defending Crowe as much as I was saying that I didn't understand the wildly varying critical response to his films when they're all pretty consistently adequate.

no, see, if i got a macarthur grant i'd just spend the money on beer and old arcade games

― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, February 10, 2010 11:16 AM (2 minutes ago)

would probably have been a better movie if it was about you, then.

Did King of Kong place?

Time of the Wolf >>> Cache imo

― queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:03 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark

I'd reverse this

enjoyed the mystery elements of cache, time of the wolf really dragged for me (and generally speaking I am a post-apocalypse stan)

nope :(

xp

ILX has no time for docs apparently.

for those wondering (or who like their lists in ascending order)

19. Adaptation
20. Caché
21. The Incredibles
22. 4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days
23. Donnie Darko
24. The Departed
25. Superbad
26. American Psycho
27. O Brother, Where Art Thou?
28. Pan's Labyrinth
29. Shaun of the Dead
30. Kill Bill: Vol. 1
31. Battle Royale
32. The New World
33. Rachel Getting Married
34. The Bourne Supremacy
35. Bad Santa
36. Brokeback Mountain
37. A History of Violence
38. 24 Hour Party People
39. A Serious Man
40. The Bourne Identity
41. The Dark Knight
42. The Hurt Locker
43. Gosford Park
44. Oldboy
45. Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy
46. Up
47. Best in Show
48. Kill Bill: Vol. 2
49. The 40 Year-Old Virgin
50. I'm Not There
51. Eastern Promises
52. Punch-Drunk Love
53. Before Sunset
54. Miami Vice
55. Munich
56. Yi Yi: A One and a Two
57. Brick
58. You Can Count On Me
59. Sexy Beast
60. The Host
61. Audition
62. Borat
63. Wet Hot American Summer
64. Kings and Queen
65. Kung Fu Hustle
66. A.I. Artificial Intelligence
67. Synecdoche, New York
68. Elephant
69. Far From Heaven
70. Ratatouille
71. 25th Hour
72. Amelie
73. The Triplets of Belleville
74. In Bruges
75. Y tu mamá también
76. In the Loop
77. The Squid & The Whale
78. 28 Days Later
79. Team America: World Police
80. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly
81. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
82. Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
83. Harold and Kumar Go to White Castle
84. Finding Nemo
85. Almost Famous
86. All the Real Girls
87. Minority Report
88. Memories of Murder
89. The Lives of Others
90. Together
91. Talk to Her
92. Tropical Malady
93. Sideways
94. Napoleon Dynamite
95. Capturing the Friedmans
96. High Fidelity
97. Happy-Go-Lucky
98. Dogville
99. The Piano Teacher
100. Movern Callar

we still might see the fog of war

been seeing that all thread amirite

Oh shit, I totally forgot about King of Kong! I should've voted for it, it was very good!

Am I the only one who voted for Dark Days? That was the most moving (and possibly the best) documentary I've ever seen.

Was Dark Days the one about the people that live in the subway tunnels?

Yeah.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/memento.jpg

As far as I can remember the huge plot hole is merely the one of motivation. When he discovers that he killed his wife he is happy to continue killing people as it drives him. However this relelntless and pointless chase of justice is based on a very selfish whim, which does not strictly fit the character we have come to believe.

There are a few similar motivational problems with Memento which can be excused due to the genre of film it is (Teddy is never more than a cypher) - but I really enjoyed it and thought it was virtuoso film- making, and in particular, writing.

― Pete

there was something more basic than that. the conceit of the film revolves around what the character/audience does and doesn't know (like all thrillers, but more so). i seem to recall reconstructing the order of events and realising there was a huge shortcut from the beginning to the end because of some obvious piece of information.

I did enjoy the film BTW -- certainly one of the better films i've seen in the last year or so -- but i'm damn positive there was something that didn't ring right with the plot mechanics. it's bugging me now.

― Alan Trewartha

I don't believe he killed his wife. But either way, biggest prob for me was how Natalie treats Leonard. When she sees him in her boyfriend's car and clothes she's all 'wtf!' but when she learns of his condition it's as though she suddenly doesn't care that her boyfriend is missing and Leonard has apparently nicked all his stuff. Yeah she manipulates him but she still ends up helping him, and never goes "where is my boyfriend you fucking retard!". Maybe she hated her bf but the script gives no indication of that (apart from showing him to be a drug-dealing douche).

Still, dope film, great idea and superbly executed - aside from minor misgivings like above.

― ledge

Memento

#18

Memento
Christopher Nolan
2000
United States
(546 points, 30 votes)

xp - tuomas: I'd almost completely forgotten about it! I really liked it when I saw it - but that was almost a decade ago.

King of Kong got robbed.

Dark Days was good.

every film in 11-20 one world title imo

Didn't vote for any docs but reluctantly dropped 'Man on Wire' and would've vote for 'Of Time and the City' if I'd saw it before I sent my votes in.

Was that Daft Punk cartoon ever theatrically released? How y'all feel about that one compared with the top finishers?

― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:42 AM (9 minutes ago)

it's excellent! tight, updated allegory on the music industry and devil at the crossroads mythology. its sad and the reveal/climax is pretty insane too (nods to Raiders iirc). made me appreciate side 2 so much more.

i was probably the only vote for it, I had it in the 30s iirc.

30 votes! pretty good for a movie nobody talks about anymore. I haven't seen it for like 8 years but I still gave it some points cause I loved it so much in hs.

surprised Memento is that low.

also memento and adaptation margin = .5 points

srsly baffled my memento placing

ridiculous movie

pretty sure Memento's "that low" placing is due to a bunch of people - including me - feeling the same as iatee

"I haven't seen it for like 8 years but I still gave it some points"

memento is much much less than the sum of its parts. a twist ending! well done, back to the 90s with you. *pats on head*

you should have announced memento in #79 and #78 or some shit

I haven't seen Memento since it came it out, but I remember liking it back then. I think it's one of those "concept movies" that has a cool basic idea you can appreciate while watching it, but when it's over and the puzzle is finished, the movie doesn't really stay with you. Nothing wrong with that, but Memento just wasn't memorable enough for me to vote for it 9 years later.

srsly baffled my memento placing

― ice cr?m

^This. Utterly mediocre film. Might have enjoyed the 20 page story that inspired it. Might.

I'm almost worried to see it again cause I don't want to be like 'o wait this is kinda lame'

sarahel otm re: memento

I unreservedly love Memento both for its formal conceit and for its ultimate underlying point about the malleability/unreliability of memory

in general I hate monologues that sum up a movie, but the last one in Memento is A+

What's that picture of Sarah Palin doing up there?

memento is great, suck it haters

I thought memento was exactly the sum of its parts - so it was "back to the 90s" - whatever. There were a lot of movies this decade that it influenced.

also, pretty sure all of Nolan's movies have climactic monologues (don't remember Insomnia)

I liked Memento better than Awakenings if we're rating Oliver Sachs movies.

the idea of telling the story backwards to give you the same sense of confusion as the guy with amnesia is UNDENIABLY neato.

love adaptation!

ah no it isn't, it just ruins it. a whole movie of intricately done show-don't-tell, leading up to... joe pantoliano reading some indie-crime movie exposition at you. what a letdown! xp2 shakey

I mean, we covered all that shit about Palin's hand in the "US politics."

wasn't Insomnia a remake of a Scandinavian movie?

docs i voted for (in no order):

muderball
grizzly man
man on wire
dogtown & z-boys
jackass
sin nombre
77Boadrum

i mean i know it caused a stir upon release, but memento seems liek one of those fun movies u forget abt right after

tuomas (and sarahel) i know that we have had our disagreements in the past, but i extend an olive branch to fellow "Dark Days" fans, that movie was amazing.

80% of my votes on this were documentaries or horror films, so with a couple of exceptions these last 20 are going to be v v sad for me

memento seems liek one of those fun movies u forget abt right after

lol irony

i think memento is pretty excellent but i didn't vote for it, mostly because i think it's kind of excellent as nothing more than a genre exercise and not much else. i mean, there's nothing wrong with that and it's just really well-executed but it's not top 40 material for me.

i had hopes for devil and daniel johnston as well. so sad.

sin nombre was a doc??
xxp