The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

only maybe joking there btw

It was his Nashville.

The problem with Cache was summed up for me by the rabid enthusiasm of smug Brit culture pundit Mark Lawson, who obviously didn't see any connection with the smug French culture pundit in the movie. With its epater-le-bourgeoisie dark-underbelly-of-the-middle-class-intelligentsia bullshit, it was destined to be adored by exactly the kind of people it was trying (pretending?) to attack. I liked the fun whodunnit stuff but found its political points completely bogus.

Village Voice still does film polls?

but can't resist getting in a few too many digs at bourgie society.

isn't this every french film?

it's poignant because she's been saved by her lover and she doesn't even know it...

cue Mad World

― FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:39 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark

I liked the closing montage's nod to kieslowski's blue

but instead of classical music kelly uses a tears for fears cover, which is another over the top 80s lol

Definitely good to see Cache here, and I would have preferred it higher even though it's not my favourite of his films by a long shot.

(Still haven't seen Time of the Wolf, btw - really need to sort that out.)

again you could see it as just an attack on georges for being oblivious in his happy comfy bourgeois life until someone decides to start messing with him, but i really do wonder if it isn't georges himself who's always been messed up about it and decided to start making the tapes, like he has some guilt he hasn't dealt with and wants to make it someone else's fault for making him feel guilty. but poor majid really never asked to be bothered. i do think that's really interesting and if you want to make it a bigger story about france/algeria history, it is also interesting as far as from whose point of view that history is told, and how it continues to be fraught because one of those nations hasn't processed it.

Time of the Wolf >>> Cache imo

Time of the Wolf is really good.

we frogs are a wacky people

I still voted for Cache though.

Caché is a film about the redemptive power of malaises.

grim and gorgeous post-apocalypse is like crack cocaine to me

yeah - the politics were a bit gratuitous and forced - i liked it for the same reasons daria did.

I never saw Amelie - did it have digs at bourgeois society?

I remember reading about Time of the Wolf just before it came out and getting stupidly excited... and then never going to watch it. Well done me.

Amelie was more like bourgeois catnip

Lamp, never heard of revanche but it's now on my list to see.

redemptive power of molasses

MD is a worthy #1, but is anyone else hoping it isn't?

deric w. haircare

― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:43 AM (2 hours ago)

Okay, ha ha ha, I'm completely perplexed at what might've inspired this, but I will pre-emptively spoilerize my ballot this one time by saying that you are as wrong as you could possibly be.

i haven't had a chance to see time of the wolf yet unfortunately, and i love beatrice dalle a lot

remember that haneke is AUSTRIAN. this is nazi guilt not colonial guilt at work.

though i tend to prefer the germans whose "never again" response was to make bad metal albums

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I loved this movie coming out of the theatre, hated it after about a week's digestion, and after thinking about it some more, am now on the fence. I really need to see it again. ― mark pI liked it, the ending was great. For me, the part where Charlie asks Donald to help with his script is the actual end of the film. The ending that occurs is the ending that Donald would have written, had he existed in the first place.

― jel

I wish the ending had gone all the way by actually including motorcycles chasing horses and that sort of thing. Rather than break down in a ridiculous but exhilarating manner, it just seems to surrender to the mediocrity that is being fought valiantly throughout the previous sequences.

Still, the portrayal of Charlie's agent is hysterical, Chris Cooper gives a phenomenal performance as John Laroche, and there are genuinely funny moments scattered throughout the film. The movie succeeds at documenting the difficulty of the writing process, the complex relationships between writers and their work, writers and other writers, and writers and other writer's work...not to mention their friends families lovers and characters. Despite the conflation of so many storylines, Adaptation still manages to dramatize a flower both by showing the orchid's innate interest, and its value as an ever-shifting metaphor in the lives of various people and cultures involved with it. Easier said than done.

― Ryan McKay

People who hate Adaptation HATE FUN!

Seriously, the accusation that the movie is aimed at pseudo-intellectual poseurs is so asinine. You could say that about any intelligent movie and then retreat to your OWN world of pseudo-intellectual smugness, thinking, "Ha, I'm so clever I saw right through that," and then feel superior over anyone who was stupid enough to enjoy it.

It's a movie about movies. It's a movie you can enjoy on different levels and it's also a movie you don't have to examine on any deep "levels" to enjoy, because it's entertaining. It seems to me that the people who are slamming it are people who, for reasons which elude me but which I think have to do with their own pretentiousness, have consciously talked themselves out of enjoying something that they probably liked, but, you know, liking things isn't hip enough for them or whatever.

― jewelly

adaptation is crapola

#19

Adaptation
Spike Jonze
2002
United States
(545.5 points, 27 votes)

xpost Austro-Hungarian imperial guilt?

Fun fact: Caché was the dullest film made in the last decade!

remember that haneke is AUSTRIAN. this is guilt for keeping his daughter imprisoned in the basement for years and fathering children by her, not colonial guilt at work.

I assume we're done with michelle hanukkah, unless the white ribbon places higher

surprised that stuff like code unknown and time of the wolf didn't make it

i think omar requested we keep speculation to a minimum?

wtf @ adaptation

adaptation kinda curdled for me once i realized i empathized more with donald than charlie

i mean come on it takes a lot more effort to write an interesting serial killer movie these days than a self-conscious meta-movie about a new yorker article

I hate fun

jess otm

adaptation is great. didn't vote for it. voted for caché, just for its mood more than anything. low low placing on my ballot tho.

Oh, ha ha ha. I saw Nicholas Cage and instantly thought it was another joke post for, like, Bangkok Serious or whatever the fuck stupidly-titled movie that was.

Aren't you supposed to empathize more with Donald?

ugh Adaptation. Garbage. Although I remember another thread where I described what I WISHED had happened in that movie and then someone telling me that that WAS what actually happened ... that left me head-scratching.

I hated the last act of Adaptation so much.

meryl & chris cooper are GREAT in adaptation, tho i didnt vote 4 it

prolly your upthread defense of napoleon dynamite and cameron crowe, missed your expressed love of MD tho

xp to deric

Bangkok Serious or whatever the fuck stupidly-titled movie that was.

that movie wasn't just stupidly titled - it was a stupid movie.

i had no idea anyone rated it that highly

I hated the last act of Adaptation so much.

yeah I was kinda with it until the last 3rd or so and then I just turned violently against it, it was the death scene that really annoyed me

also i AM a cripplingly self-conscious, slovenly writer who rewards himself with muffins for getting a few paragraphs written and wishes he was banging catherine keener. don't need a two hour reminder.

Meryl Streep staring at her toes = gross

Don't remember much about it except thinking oh, hey, now Meryl Streep is funny and sexy instead of earnestly truffling for Oscars. And I cling to it as the last evidence that Nicolas Cage had any inclination to do something useful with his talent.

xp strongo: how did you feel about Synecdoche, NY - a three hour reminder was it?

hate fun as well, i'm not sure if there needed to be another movie about writer's block

Saw a preview of Adaptation with Charlie Kaufman taking questions from the audience afterward. Got maybe 3 questions about his dead brother and some condolences before he responded rather angrily that the brother was fiction.