okay I think mordy enjoyed it for adult reasons more than I did
― iatee, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:48 (sixteen years ago)
I'll say this for Caché: it kicked off a run of terrific Juliette Binoche performances.
― Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:48 (sixteen years ago)
also lol @ shakey writing "the invisibles." now there's a pixar i'd line up for.
lololol yeah me too!!
― mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:48 (sixteen years ago)
i thought he was talking about cache? xxp
― ('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:48 (sixteen years ago)
The evil Malcolm McLaren/Svengali alien takes these folksy rockin aliens and destroys their identities/skincolor to make them palatable manufactured pop stars on Earth.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:49 (sixteen years ago)
i loved caché. upon repeat viewing i thought georges was the least trustworthy person in the film though we're inclined to believe him since it's told from his POV, but i think he made the tapes himself
― kicker conspiracy (b. favre ha ha) (daria-g), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:49 (sixteen years ago)
i like cache a lot but could we stop pretending a well-made thriller is pontecorvo redux?
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:49 (sixteen years ago)
i'm imagining 4m/3w/2days as a feature length music video
― jed_, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:50 (sixteen years ago)
film about the redemptive power of the family in combating the malaise and violence done upon the adult figure in a middle class capitalism
okay can't say I expected this particular read but yeah I see where yr coming from. interesting
― mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:50 (sixteen years ago)
Ha I fell asleep during a critical scene in 4mos, and this made the awkward dinner scene probably a lot less charged than intended. It still works as plain awkward dinner scene.
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:51 (sixteen years ago)
caché shockingly low
― jed_, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:51 (sixteen years ago)
^^^ if I read the movie like this I would probably hate it
― iatee, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:51 (sixteen years ago)
i actually wasn't sure what you guys were talking about when you kept mentioning caché, but looking over its wiki I think I've seen it. i found it very slow moving and boring, tho.
― Mordy, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:52 (sixteen years ago)
Caché placing above superbad makes me believe in justice - a totally trivial form of justice that applies to nothing significant and meaningful - but justice nonetheless. Yay ILX.
― sarahel, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:53 (sixteen years ago)
i didn't think it was pontecorvo, that french-algerian history is an interesting aspect of the film but what became more interesting to me was the reaction of people to being watched and how they change their behavior, and generally how one is inclined to believe georges and sympathize with him since he's the one on whom the film is focused.
― kicker conspiracy (b. favre ha ha) (daria-g), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:53 (sixteen years ago)
no see THAT part WAS interesting to me. i just felt like haneke was gilding the lily with the "colonial imperialism" shit.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:55 (sixteen years ago)
this is ILX, not the village voice poll of films
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:56 (sixteen years ago)
it's just like every haneke since benny's video (excepting the piano teacher since he didn't write it): dude just secretly seems to want to make "smart" genre pictures (a noble goal!) but can't resist getting in a few too many digs at bourgie society.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:57 (sixteen years ago)
just in general it had me thinking a lot about what assumptions i made based on where the camera is, both the director's and the one that's recording within the film.. assuming georges must have done something because he's being surveilled, majid must have done something because georges makes that accusation, it must be majid who's causing georges to feel guilty, etc. i found it really interesting.
― kicker conspiracy (b. favre ha ha) (daria-g), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:57 (sixteen years ago)
how many digs is too many
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:57 (sixteen years ago)
i guess my sense would be that if it is a film shot in contemporary france it is more problematic to leave that aspect out of a film, than to put it in.
― kicker conspiracy (b. favre ha ha) (daria-g), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:58 (sixteen years ago)
maybe EVEN the piano teacher (since the [very funny] novel is so unlike the movie) since it's basically melodrama cranked way too tight
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:58 (sixteen years ago)
caché... i found it very slow moving and boring, tho.
― Mordy
me too.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:58 (sixteen years ago)
what genre did you think code unknown was?
― zvookster, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 18:59 (sixteen years ago)
keep in mind the piano teacher made my top ten, and cache and time of the wolf would have made a top forty (probably), and haneke for all his lovable faults is one of my favorite directors.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:00 (sixteen years ago)
ppl had to make space on their ballots for revanche to finish top 10 bro
― ^ now ya head is like *http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/3310/volcanoqa2* (Lamp), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:00 (sixteen years ago)
xxp It was his take on Pixar animation.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:00 (sixteen years ago)
code unknown was his "crash"-esque socio-political oscar-bait melodrama
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:01 (sixteen years ago)
only maybe joking there btw
It was his Nashville.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:01 (sixteen years ago)
The problem with Cache was summed up for me by the rabid enthusiasm of smug Brit culture pundit Mark Lawson, who obviously didn't see any connection with the smug French culture pundit in the movie. With its epater-le-bourgeoisie dark-underbelly-of-the-middle-class-intelligentsia bullshit, it was destined to be adored by exactly the kind of people it was trying (pretending?) to attack. I liked the fun whodunnit stuff but found its political points completely bogus.
― gotanynewsstory? (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:01 (sixteen years ago)
Village Voice still does film polls?
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:02 (sixteen years ago)
but can't resist getting in a few too many digs at bourgie society.
isn't this every french film?
― Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:02 (sixteen years ago)
it's poignant because she's been saved by her lover and she doesn't even know it...
cue Mad World
― FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT! FIST FIGHT IN THE PARKING LOT! (milo z), Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:39 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark
I liked the closing montage's nod to kieslowski's blue
but instead of classical music kelly uses a tears for fears cover, which is another over the top 80s lol
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:02 (sixteen years ago)
Definitely good to see Cache here, and I would have preferred it higher even though it's not my favourite of his films by a long shot.
(Still haven't seen Time of the Wolf, btw - really need to sort that out.)
― emil.y, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:02 (sixteen years ago)
again you could see it as just an attack on georges for being oblivious in his happy comfy bourgeois life until someone decides to start messing with him, but i really do wonder if it isn't georges himself who's always been messed up about it and decided to start making the tapes, like he has some guilt he hasn't dealt with and wants to make it someone else's fault for making him feel guilty. but poor majid really never asked to be bothered. i do think that's really interesting and if you want to make it a bigger story about france/algeria history, it is also interesting as far as from whose point of view that history is told, and how it continues to be fraught because one of those nations hasn't processed it.
― kicker conspiracy (b. favre ha ha) (daria-g), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:03 (sixteen years ago)
Time of the Wolf >>> Cache imo
― queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:03 (sixteen years ago)
Time of the Wolf is really good.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:03 (sixteen years ago)
we frogs are a wacky people
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:03 (sixteen years ago)
I still voted for Cache though.
Caché is a film about the redemptive power of malaises.
― Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:03 (sixteen years ago)
grim and gorgeous post-apocalypse is like crack cocaine to me
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:04 (sixteen years ago)
yeah - the politics were a bit gratuitous and forced - i liked it for the same reasons daria did.
I never saw Amelie - did it have digs at bourgeois society?
― sarahel, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:04 (sixteen years ago)
I remember reading about Time of the Wolf just before it came out and getting stupidly excited... and then never going to watch it. Well done me.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:04 (sixteen years ago)
Amelie was more like bourgeois catnip
― Mordy, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:04 (sixteen years ago)
Lamp, never heard of revanche but it's now on my list to see.
― jed_, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:04 (sixteen years ago)
redemptive power of molasses
― zvookster, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:04 (sixteen years ago)
MD is a worthy #1, but is anyone else hoping it isn't?
deric w. haircare
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, February 10, 2010 9:43 AM (2 hours ago)
Okay, ha ha ha, I'm completely perplexed at what might've inspired this, but I will pre-emptively spoilerize my ballot this one time by saying that you are as wrong as you could possibly be.
― SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:04 (sixteen years ago)
i haven't had a chance to see time of the wolf yet unfortunately, and i love beatrice dalle a lot
― kicker conspiracy (b. favre ha ha) (daria-g), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:05 (sixteen years ago)
remember that haneke is AUSTRIAN. this is nazi guilt not colonial guilt at work.
― strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 19:05 (sixteen years ago)