The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

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morbs do u ever say anything like it's your opinion rather than objective fact?

― zvookster, Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:49 AM (6 minutes ago)

careful, don't blow on the house of cards

WmC, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:58 (sixteen years ago)

Ach, yeah, I guess the 'clearly' isn't within the film itself, but the box-set commentary/extras, and the critical/public reaction. Which is one of the reasons that the film gets away with it.

xposts to hm

emil.y, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:58 (sixteen years ago)

haw i'm just about to watch this one on netflix!

harbl, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:58 (sixteen years ago)

I voted for Donnie Darko because it's a great mood piece but the more Kelly tries to explain it the worse it gets. David Lynch doesn't go around handing out Cliffnotes.

gotanynewsstory? (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:58 (sixteen years ago)

Wow okay I am totally floored that placed this high.

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:59 (sixteen years ago)

great double feature with Knocked Up

ryan, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:59 (sixteen years ago)

also multiple musical slow-down-speed-up setpieces set to entire songs.

^this stood out 2 me as p. obnoxious when i saw DD a second time

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 16:59 (sixteen years ago)

great double feature with Knocked Up

― ryan, Wednesday, February 10, 2010 4:59 PM (27 seconds ago) Bookmark

lol "i wish there'd been a scene where they go to vegas"

pro bono publico (history mayne), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:00 (sixteen years ago)

This is the movie Knocked Up could have been if Judd Apatow weren't such a pernicious pro-life propagandist

gotanynewsstory? (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:00 (sixteen years ago)

two sorta-surprise placings in a row (not much room left for more tho)

iatee, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:01 (sixteen years ago)

wow never even heard of this

mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:01 (sixteen years ago)

guys here's something to think about what if jake's characters mom had gotten an abortion before the airplane engine in donnie darko??

99. The Juggalo Teacher (dyao), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:01 (sixteen years ago)

That doesn't change the fact that "Donnie Darko" as I saw it, is a fucking waste of time and pretty much on par in the "so busy thinking it's clever that it isn't noticing that it is actually entirely fucking stupid and awful and an outright abortion of a film that is a crime against art" stakes as bullshit like "Magnolia" and "The Hours".

OTM alert

quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:02 (sixteen years ago)

y'all probably like requiem for a dream, too

strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:02 (sixteen years ago)

"if we just make everything monochrome and mopey, people who are looking to appear smart in order to cover up for feeling like everyone hates them will fill in enough blanks and finish off our story for us".

casting entirely hypothetical aspersions onto people who enjoy a particular cultural artifact is um really lazy criticism sorry

mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:02 (sixteen years ago)

What if Richard Kelly's mom got an abortion before he directed Southland Tales?

Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:02 (sixteen years ago)

i found 'three months, two weeks' or whatever it's called very gripping, but it hasn't stayed with me too much.

pro bono publico (history mayne), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:02 (sixteen years ago)

y'all probably like requiem for a dream, too

marlon wayans' finest dramatic effort, maybe jared leto's too if i dare say

da croupier, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:03 (sixteen years ago)

Yay 4 Months! I was thinking earlier this morning that it was probably out of the running.

Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:03 (sixteen years ago)

requiem for a dream wasn't very gripping, but marlon wayans weeping over his mama has really stuck with me

strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:04 (sixteen years ago)

tv is evil
inspirational speakers can be kiddie diddlers
being a young person is a time of great sadness

strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:05 (sixteen years ago)

morbs do u ever say anything like it's your opinion rather than objective fact?

These are all our opinions, Einstein.

Armond White correct: Romania overrated.

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:06 (sixteen years ago)

I hated Magnolia, Crash, Requiem for a Dream, and the Hours and don't see what any of those films have in common with Donnie Darko (which tbf doesn't have much in common with ANY other films at all, its such a weird mishmash)

mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:06 (sixteen years ago)

Sort of like that the tensest scene of 4/3/2 is an otherwise jovial family dinner.

queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:06 (sixteen years ago)

highly recommend 4 months 3 wks 2 days, it's pretty incredible and kinda doesn't end up where you think it will. the armond white review linked in the romanian new wave thread is one of those reviews which reveals him as the subhuman he is fwiw.

('_') (omar little), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:07 (sixteen years ago)

David Lynch doesn't go around handing out Cliffnotes.

true. tbh there are not very many directors who i really want to hear explain their movies to me.

(that's for us to do.)

hellzapoppa (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:07 (sixteen years ago)

obv it would get tedious if we all had to make this clear every time, but i said ever. over the course of a whole thread you just come off as childish to me.

zvookster, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:08 (sixteen years ago)

Decaderious resolution for the '10s: Move beyond Armond.

queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:08 (sixteen years ago)

"Requiem For A Dream" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Donnie Darko"

I hated Magnolia, Crash, Requiem for a Dream, and the Hours and don't see what any of those films have in common with Donnie Darko (which tbf doesn't have much in common with ANY other films at all, its such a weird mishmash)

I'm not really sure how "so busy thinking it's clever that it isn't noticing that it is actually entirely fucking stupid and awful and an outright abortion of a film that is a crime against art" and "if we just make everything monochrome and mopey, people who are looking to appear smart in order to cover up for feeling like everyone hates them will fill in enough blanks and finish off our story for us" were ambiguous in my original post.

Michael Steele, the first black Superman (HI DERE), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:08 (sixteen years ago)

stoked for 4m3w2d, one of the most visceral film experiences i've ever had.

take me to your lemur (ledge), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:08 (sixteen years ago)

Pleased we've mostly made it through this thread without worrying our pretty little heads about Crash.

queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:10 (sixteen years ago)

Anamaria Marinca as Otilia best performance of the decade

abcfsk, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:14 (sixteen years ago)

Dan, you saw a diff movie than the DD ppl voted for is my understanding.

Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:15 (sixteen years ago)

I did note that after my rant!

Michael Steele, the first black Superman (HI DERE), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:16 (sixteen years ago)

xpost I don't think you can boil Donnie Darko down to one message the way you can with Crash ("we are all a bit racist") or Requiem ("don't do drugz") - it's not fundamentally about the dark underbelly, blah blah blah. It's the collision of diverse genres and ideas that makes it interesting.

gotanynewsstory? (Dorianlynskey), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:16 (sixteen years ago)

okay, i admit, i just hate teenagers

strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:17 (sixteen years ago)

I hereby detract what I wrote about The Departed.

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:18 (sixteen years ago)

Dorian OTM - I dunno Dan those aren't really criticisms so much as their just ad hominem attacks. I don't really agree with the characterization of the film as "monochrome and mopey" for example - there are tons of jokes!

mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:18 (sixteen years ago)

*retract, rather.

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:19 (sixteen years ago)

You absolutely can boil down the director's cut of "Donnie Darko": "your family and friends will be better off if you kill yourself". That core message is the main reason I find it so abhorrent.

Michael Steele, the first black Superman (HI DERE), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:19 (sixteen years ago)

lol what happened to yr inner goth Dan!

mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:20 (sixteen years ago)

but yeah Kelly has ... issues. DD cut, Southland Tales, the Box - these are things to avoid

mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:21 (sixteen years ago)

i dunno i think that's a good healthy message to send out to people watching the director's cut of "Donnie Darko"

some dude, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:21 (sixteen years ago)

Well, seeing as you seem to find people who like it hideously abhorrent too, I'm surprised you don't agree with that message. At least we'd all be dead.

xpost, ha

emil.y, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:21 (sixteen years ago)

If more people killed themselves, there would be less of an audience for Avatar.

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:22 (sixteen years ago)

one less mouth to feed is one less mouth to feed

mark kerfuffalo (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:22 (sixteen years ago)

now see if dd's secret message is that teenagers kill themselves, i might be all turned around here.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:23 (sixteen years ago)

one less mouth to feed is one less mouth to feed

hahaha, my first thought after Alfred's post was to find that Cerebus panel

WmC, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:24 (sixteen years ago)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_8tyNEk-C_Es/SPKMHgC5V7I/AAAAAAAAGVk/JbYOaWBeIV8/s400/amelie1.jpg

One less mouth to feed.

queen frostine (Eric H.), Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:24 (sixteen years ago)

cant think of seeing/reading any real negative opinions of 4m/3w/2d -- wondering aloud, did anyone who has seen it purposefully leave it off their ballot? or is it closer to that only ~22 voters saw it

it's p. great imo

johnny crunch, Wednesday, 10 February 2010 17:24 (sixteen years ago)


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