The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

patience.........

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Saw it last night. Wife and I both loved it. My wife is Japanese and she giggled through most of the Japanese language scenes because the acting was so hammy (in her words). It's basically an over-the-top, funny, violent comic book movie - if you believe that "funny" and "violent" can coexist. If not, avoid. My fave stuff, though:

1) GO-GO! She steals the movie, IMHO, and her duel scene with The Bride is the highlight of the final big fight sequence.

2) The rockin' handclap/kick/synth(?) track that played as the anime O-ren Ishii was rooftop sniping. If this is a RZA track I just want an entire cd of this type of shit. If it's not RZA -- who is it?

: related note : I was surprised at the non-Wuness of the incidental music. Really simple yet suspenseful use of sounds with nary an MPC beat in sight.And that Morricone music *swoon*!

3) The orange skies fake ass airplane scenes.

Good movie. Can't wait to see it again.

― Jay Vee

I am holding Tarantino personally responsible for the debacles in Iraq and the Occupied Territories and am having a ceremonial sword specially made to cleave him neatly into two pieces which I will then have fried by a short-order chef who looks a bit (wink! wink!) like Charlie Chan and served up to his gormless fans in between two pieces of tasteless American bread.

― Momus

One of the things that's great about Kill Bill is that the women aren't sexualized at all, the way "Amazon assassins" (Momus's words) are in the great majority of action movies, comic books, TV shows, etc. -- whether they're heroes or villains, women are usually "dangerously sexy," fight in bikinis, seduce men before they kill them, etc. Not in this movie. And no, they're not "women as we know them on planet Earth" -- but neither is anyone, man or woman, in an action movie that's going to entertain us with violence, rather than disturb us.

― Sam J.

the best thing here is how when stencil pointed out that Momus doesn't hold up Bounce Ko Gals as representative of some terrible rot within Japanese society, or Baise-Moi as indicative of some deep yahoo strain inherent within French culture, Momus responds by tossing off a flip line about how Baise-Moi wasn't to his liking and then ignores the rest of the point. If Momus were a misanthrope, his point would stand, but since he only thinks one culture is worth indicting...God I loved this thread, it had its own sadistic appeal to it

― J0hn Darn1elle

Come anticipate Kill Bill with me

#30

Kill Bill: Vol. 1
Quentin Tarantino
2003
United States
(452 points, 21 votes, 1 first place)

Did you just accidentally reveal #27 and got it deleted?

that kill bill one is a classic thread btw

#27? i don't even have the quotes or jpg ready...

can't wait to see what's next!

Well, there certainly was something here that was deleted... But if it's supposed to come later, I won't spoil it.

surprised that inglourious basterds is gonna (presumably) beat out the kill bills

#29 was "deleted".

xp I'm not surprised at all.

tuomas don't be the guy who points out the smell when someone farts and everyone else in the room has made an unspoken pact to ignore it.

sorry to jump back a whole bunch, but i saw "Out of the Past" last night and had to check and make sure "A History of Violence" wasn't some sort of remake of it. very similar minus the femme fatale part.

In this small dose, Momus on KB is pretty hysterical.

i though we already had kill bill? shit n e way

I've never heard of Battle Royale. Those quotes are all over the place and don't give any real clues either

xp I'm not surprised at all.

me neither. upon second viewing I'm inclined to rate IB over almost everything else he's done, with possible exception of Jackie Brown.

also lolz @ momus

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Oh come one, even my posh aunt couldn't ignore that!

(x-post to Strongo)

We had KB2.

I'm curious, though: Did anyone vote for it as one movie? (Same question applies to the LOTR and Bourne movies.)

Your posh aunt, who said the rhyme, is the one who did the crime.

momus' taste in american trash was always so...confusing.

not that I don't love IB, I just figured Kill Bill 1 had a good shot at the top 10

i mean if you take away the "i like whoever's ass i'm currently trying to kiss" shit.

no votes for all the bourne films or all the lotr films. however, the only films that people either requested a single vote for both were the grindhouse ones (which also had votes for each film separately.) i didn't have any votes for kill bill as a whole film, though one person voted for "kill bill" (i just counted that vote for vol. 1 since they didn't specify.)

Maybe one I'll watch the Kill Bills. I remember just being disappointed at Tarantino: I thought he'd found a way out of making genre pastiches with Jackie Brown, which I really liked, but then it seemed he went straight back there with KB. And the following movies haven't convinced me of seeing them either. I guess they're good pastiches though, for getting so many votes?

They're good-to-great movies.

did someone say genre pastiche + tarantino?
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wasn't convinced of the concept but the execution is amazingly good.

xp KB1 is a thrill ride, all homage aside. KB2 is all cleverness and homage-in-exposition and like two chill fights

KB are pastiches sure, IB eh not so much - that's just a really brilliant film

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I thought it was pretty great. More, much more than a triple-length episode of Spaced.

Without lurching too far into spoiler territory, scenes that will live long in the memory - the second trip to the convenience store, the cinder path encounter with the other (doppel)gang(er), the entire speeding Jag sequence.

Watching Morons From Outer Space last night in bed (and having worked on Drop Dead Fred at work recently) it struck me that SOTD so spectacularly bucks the trend for bright Brit TV comedy falling flat on the big screen that I... I don't really know what to think. Perhaps Edgar Wright is the new Terry Gilliam, exchanging the epic for the specific.

― Michael Jones

Not much to add other than I loved it. The DVD has a plot hole section where they explain what happened to Dawn (from The Office) etc. My favorite reference was of course when they decide not to use Shaun's "Blue Monday" 12" as a zombie frisbee because it's a "first edition."

― Spencer Chow

It annoyed me hwne they did about 20 mins of no-laugh. It jarred me a bit. It was funny when they were trying to be funny (the drama class is v. funny as well) but they should have tried to be funny a bit more. I think they were going for the BAFTA in the last half hour.

― Johnney B

the crack is at the end where they're watching the tv aftermath and a report goes something like "theories that the epidemic was provoked by rage have been proven as bol-" [changes channel]. maybe i imagined it.

this flick relates to most ppl probly, electro comps and infesticons posters for... some people ahem

somehow the weird viciousness of d moran's demise made it into more of erm a proper film than a pally irony muckabout i thought, it was still a bit jokey but also something intense and purely cinematic about it

― prima fassy

Official Shaun of the Dead Thread!

#29

Shaun of the Dead
Edgar Wright
2004
United Kingdom
(435.5 points, 24 votes)

I totally thought that's where it would place.

I figured it was cruising for top 10.

a few of you may have seen that one coming ;-p

Hot Fuzz is much funnier imo.

WTF is that the Britishes contingent in effect or what...? I mean its okay, but nothing special. zombie horror comedies are a dime a dozen.

They are?

I can't think of any other besides Zombieland.

the english films on this list are approx in reverse order of quality

xp shakey: so are fast-paced action movies starring attractive men whose characters are more or less devoid of personality, but that didn't stop two of the Bourne movies from placing.

can't agree that Hot Fuzz is funnier, it seemed much more formulaic and join-the-dots for me.

pretty sure that SOTD was big in the states too, and i definitely remember the praise on the ILX thread being incontinental

"I can't think of any other besides Zombieland."

Think harder.

^^^yes really

whoa can we talk about no wes anderson yet? does that terrify anyone for the top 28?

xp - incontinental? like praise from ilxors that have embarrassing problems controlling the flow of their urine?

It could be formulaic and still be funnier. My beef with Shaun is that I didn't laugh, um, once.

tenenbaums surely top 20 ish

'shaun of the dead' is plenty funnier than every other zombie comedy i've seen (though that's faint praise imo.)

I voted for Hot Fuzz btw. I am secret britishes.

fair enough, but i wouldn't hold out any hope for Hot Fuzz placing from hereon in.

xp tenenbaums surely top 10