The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

ok guys

it continues (shortly)

bring it on! (2000)

^^ #14 on my list

Let's Roll (2006)

switching it up a little stylistically, just w/the font

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Identity by a long chalk - the momentum from complete anonymity to painful revelation, while having no time to think or settle was pretty good. Each subsequent one worse. Ultimatum, Waterloo bit aside, was pretty dire.

The momentum of the first had changed into headache/fight/run/headache/fight/run/headache/jump in water in several meaninglessly different locations. Those shaky camera fight scenes and car chases don't really do it for me either.

― GamalielRatsey

The Bourne Identity - A pleasant surprise. Crackingly paced and very well-crafted.

- chap

"the bourne identity." that was like an arty blockbuster (minimally arty but still) compared to "italian job." i think they both did the job well enough, but "bourne identity" actually seems to grant its characters an intelligence that made it more satisfying to me.

- amateurist

The embassy scene in The Bourne Identity was pretty much the model of how to do that kind of thing. It's also an appealing American myth: We didn't know we were built to be this killing machine, and maybe we have a good heart inside, and can actually use our power for good, etc, if knocked on the head. The car chase onward bored me, though.

- Pete Scholtes

BOURNE - C/D

#40

The Bourne Identity
Doug Liman
2002
United States
(406.5 points, 16 votes)

I liked the second Bourne more, but both were a lot of fun. Great setpieces. I love the way some of the action scenes build organically from one avoided encounter with a cop on the street.

so does this mean all 3 bourne thingys will place?

Prefer Greengrass's direction (so voted Supremacy) but this had more Franka Potente and the element of surprise.

identity is such a terrific action movie but i think its the worst in the trilogy!

I voted Supremacy as well, but so low it won't make a huge difference. Can't really frown on Identity, and a great example of salvaging a troubled production.

so does this mean all 3 bourne thingys will place?

I really think they should (he said by way of trying not to directly spoilerize his ballot).

i have a strange feeling the bournes will place!

i fear the unfortunate revival of that xg@u thread will send potential traffic over there for a discussion of 50 word reviews...

i could drop it from new answers

I absolutely hate Paul Greengrass' direction. It made me dizzy watching it.

jjj i would never suggest you do that

*leaves money with envelope on desk, "gets distracted and looks away"*

guys 15 years ago xgau said bowie and john cougar were stablemates if that bores you DON'T READ IT

now make with the fucking screencaps

Really got nothing to say about the Bourne films or the prospect of three of them in the top 40.

if i had to rate them itd go something like

1 supremacy
2 identity
3 ultimatum

'he who talks loud, saying nothing'

I'd probably rank them:

1. the one I've seen most recently
2. penultimate one I've seen
3. the other one

jjj please remove da croupier's last two posts regarding the other thread. moving on.

I only saw the third one - and it felt like watching someone play a videogame. Personally, I'd rather be playing the videogame myself. Matt Damon had about as much character/personality as the little man in Pitfall for the Atari 2600, though playing Pitfall was more rewarding than the Bourne movies, because at least I got to make the guy jump over or fall into the pit of alligators myself.

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the film is somewhere in between "great" (in parts) to mediocre/embarrassing (in other parts).

the last 30 minutes or so of the film (esp. the bar mitzvah scene) are truely great: only then did The Coen brothers took the film seriously and thoghtfully as they didnt for (most of) the rest of the movie, which is a not-so-much-inspiring take on judaism as philosophy and culture.
the comedy is vulgar on those parts because it was done while the directors didnt take their "job" seriously, and as a result - the characters,the story, the jokes are shallow, and some people would say even anti-semite (as they did).
at least they did made the effort to make the movie into something profound - a piece of art - at the last part,saving it from being their worst movie into being somewhere in the middle between their best and their worst to date.

still - some good sequences there too - the one where Gopnick is fixing the antenna on the roof is brilliant,for example.

― Zeno

Anyway, this is one of their best (like, top 4) and I'd declare it my favorite along with Raising Arizona if there wasn't some slippage into actual cruelty, as opposed to a study of gracelessness under pressure. All the roles are astoundingly well cast. And yeah, it's the most aerious American film about Judaism I can recall since Mazursky's Enemies. Key ambiguous line: "I didn't do anything."

Also, I know the guy who plays the shtetl husband in the prologue (he also did the Yiddish translation). We're in the same vintage film-comedy film buff circle.

― Dr Morbius

I loved loved loved this.

Movie's only weakness was that despite Sy Ableman's character being amusing as all get out I found it somewhat difficult to believe that Gopnik's wife would actually fall for someone that thoroughly unexciting (not to mention so completely unctuous.) But that minor stretch of credulity aside, it was pitch perfect.

― Alex in SF

New Coen Bros, A Serious Man

#39

A Serious Man
Joel and Ethan Coen
2009
United States
(416.5 points, 18 votes)

Awesome.

voted 4 dat 1

really pleasantly surprised by a serious man

they should make more films set in minnesota

i think it's Rosenbaum who takes the view that the Cohens are actually laughing at all their characters and it's a mean-spirited thing. this was pre-A Serious Man tho (maybe c. Big Lebowski?)

the view that the Cohens are actually laughing at all their characters and it's a mean-spirited thing.

we've discussed this quite a bit on other threads.

they should make more films set in minnesota

― nakhchivan, Tuesday, February 9, 2010 12:41 PM (40 seconds ago) Bookmark

haha everyone or just the coens?

yay

they should make more films set in minnesota

― nakhchivan, Tuesday, February 9, 2010 12:41 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Didn't really thing ASM was up to the level of Fargo or No Country, but damn did that ending get me.

Still haven't seen this as the cinema was closed due to snow the when it was on around here, will have to wait till it appears on DVD.

the cinema was closed due to snow the when it was on around here,

this is amazingly apt

(xpost Which is today, in U.S.)

so weird that ASM basically completely went under the radar at all the major theaters here - bummed I didn't get a chance to see it yet

Ditto here, only the local volunteer run cinema showed it, amazed how poorly it was distributed.

haha everyone or just the coens?

the latter (maybe former too)
the closeness to home seems to limit the tendency towards incurious misanthropy rosenbaum sometimes overidentifies (burn after reading being a nadir) or at least gives it more variety
didn't see gopnik in this light at all

i read the misanthropy, as (over)done in burn after reading, as being the closest thing they've come to overt political anger.

I really love A Serious Man, but I guess I saw it too recently to consider it a best of the decade. Didn't stop me from another 2009 film I saw the first time at the end of the year, but hey.

Three 2009 movies made my list and two have them have already placed.

Actually if you count the Hunger, I guess it would be four, but I doubt that's placing at this point.

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OK, make sure you sit no where near the front and eat very lightly before the show. Lot of it is made on like a handheld camera so its very shaky - a la Blair Witch. I had to excuse myself twice to go throw up in the bathroom... And I had Cambodian hot&sour soup for lunch so it was particularly nasty and burned on the way up.

otherwise, it was aiight.

― phil-two

The thing is that 24HPP is not a sturdy, coherent genre piece - it's a silly, liberty-taking mess which works because it cheekily presumes that something of interest to a few fanboys can be made fascinating to anyone who watches it (it doesn't always succeed at this because I like a presumption). It doesn't approach the 'dark still heart' because Peter Saville's sleeves have already illustrated the d.s.h. better than anything else could, I think.

― Tom (Groke)

I would have hated the film if it had been all mythic Curtis wandering wordlessly around concrete multi-story car parks: desolation comes in much more diverse and interesting packages than that. I like the fact that there was all this blokeyness going on in direct contrast to the noises and feelings in the music (until the Mondays, at least). One of the points of the film is the Monday's resolution of that conflict.

― Tim

24 Hour Party People

#38

24 Hour Party People
Michael Winterbottom
2002
United Kingdom
(418.5 points, 24 votes)

ayo!

liked this film a lot. i'm curious as to if the "it'll be on the dvd" joke was delivered on on the dvd?