The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

I'd kind of forgotten about it, tbh.

i was asking Dan, just because h's either surprised to see it here (which would be weird) or you've been refreshing the thread for days waiting to declare the poll devoid of credibility for including it

I guess this means Zatoichi won't rank. :(

no more dark knight talk. no more. please just consider your reactions thoughtfully, to yourself. do not post them.

please, i am begging you all.

Can we talk about the lack of abortion discussion in the Dark Knight?

hopefully the prestige will place higher. Nolan IS as smart as he thinks he is (imo) but perhaps on reflection the last 20 mins are a little didactic.

would have maybe preferred this if batman had never even been in it - lol, I had never thought of it from that perspective, but otfm.

can people just stop using the word "inoffensive" to mean "i dont like it"

I used inoffensive because that's what I meant. The Hurt Locker isn't going to offend many politically (hard to do with Iraq war movies), it isn't stupid, it isn't gratuitous (graphic, yes, but not gratuitous). I would say that also holds true for Slumdog, Gladiator, Braveheart, etc. I liked it - didn't love it, wouldn't watch it again.

There are plenty of movies I'd call "execrable" like the two Alex named, and The Dark Knight.

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oh sorry xposts. no more DK talk.

Hurt Locker made me hella sick AT HOME. I was sitting too close.

I am kind of surprised to see DK it here. Maybe because I don't like it, I guess I underestimate how much other people DO like it. I realize, looking at it, my statement implies a judgement about other peoples' tastes. Sorry if I offended

i think prestige is nolans best movie by a long shot

I hope some intrepid phantom editor releases a cut of "Dark Knight minus Batman" along with "Julie and Julia minus Julie"

"hopefully the prestige will place higher"

Hah if this happens I will watch it again.

Knocked Up made me laugh, but mostly because of that one scene where they're explaining how babies are made to the kids. because in my heart, i still think babies are like vaginal poops.

i think dark knight is a hella smart movie, definitely moreso than batman begins, just not quite as cutting or intelligent as it wants to be

Would totally watch a whole movie of Julia and Stanley Tucci.

would totally watch batman and julie

The Hurt Locker isn't going to offend many politically

depends on how you define "many" but this is basically false. it has!

Julia and the Joker

Christian Bale as Julia Child = would watch

think dark knight is a hella smart movie, definitely moreso than batman begins, just not quite as cutting or intelligent as it wants to be

yeah fair enough. i think i got way over-excited by a Batman movie making me think that much.

I would also watch Meryl Streep as Batman.

figured ILX backlash would have ensured DK stayed off the list.

It has a remarkable hour in the middle.

think dark knight is a hella smart movie

lol wut

disappointed omar didnt use my post on the gosford park thread. weird group of movies 2day imo

i think dark knight is a hella smart movie, definitely moreso than batman begins, just not quite as cutting or intelligent as it wants to be

― max, Monday, February 8, 2010 11:37 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark

i didn't read any interviews with brolan, but really? i don;t think its trying overhard to be intelligent/cutting.

it's very insightful on the issue of abortion

Yeah, it was enjoyable entertainment, but I wouldn't say it was intelligent or incisive in any way.

dark knight: nolan is not as smart as he thinks he is but he can art direct the fukk out of anything, ledger is great, would have maybe preferred this if batman had never even been in it
― max, Monday, February 8, 2010 6:28 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

art direction really didn't jump out at me on this one... what in particular do u mean

Yeah, it was enjoyable entertainment, but I wouldn't say it was intelligent or incisive in any way.

― sarahel, Monday, February 8, 2010 6:46 PM (47 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

if a movie is entertaining, there has to be some intelligence behind it.

honestly tho when i use "smart" or "intelligent" to describe movies i'm usually referring to how they were made, not like, the big issues they raised or whatev. so i might be misreading u.

it was intelligent, i just mean max was suggesting it was try-hard/pretentious or s.thing

honestly tho when i use "smart" or "intelligent" to describe movies i'm usually referring to how they were made, not like, the big issues they raised or whatev. so i might be misreading u.

― wall•egina (s1ocki), Monday, February 8, 2010 3:48 PM (4 seconds ago)

i think dark knight was intelligently made - it was well done for what it was - so I think we're agreeing.

The Hurt Locker isn't going to offend many politically

depends on how you define "many" but this is basically false. it has!

Really? Like any other war movie of the past five years? Like, at all? Guess I completely missed it. It seemed to go out of it's way - painfully so, sometimes - to not take a side. Friends all over the political spectrum have sung its praises.

xposts a plenty

figured ILX backlash would have ensured DK stayed off the list.

There's backlash? I've always felt like a lone wolf w/r/t my negative opinion.

stylistically i thought TDK did a lot of things so well and i liked the super-bleak tone for the most part too (at the end shit got lame.) it's just such a massive flick, definitely problematic here and there, but generally pretty superb esp for its genre.

ok, so Munich/Miami Vice/Before Sunset have already placed. I'm going to get over it and not hold it against the other films.

DK has an extraordinarily tense middle section that puts it way up there as far as popcorn blockbusters go. It tries to be more intelligent then your average, and even if it fails to some degree, I appreciate the effort.

huge DK backlash all over the web. I just presumed that if there was backlash somewhere, ILX was all over that shit.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seemed like the plot with the bombs on the ship and the kidnapping/rigging to explosives of Dent and the girl was taken from Die Hard 3.

close but not really

Die Hard 3 was also very intelligent in its own way.

It's own stupid stupid way.

DH3 is pretty dece but no

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I liked Die Hard 3.

intellectual titan alex in sf says it's dumb so

boneheaded moron disagrees film at 11

i don't think people understand how backlash works if they think something really popular having a backlash means it stays out of a poll where you can only vote for, not against something

I guess ILX backlash people brow-beat everyone else into submission so much that those who still like it are afraid to speak up. I probably mistake this for people actually buying into the backlash wholesale. Perhaps the yeahsayers just get their revenge by submitting ballots in polls like this one.

I could just be confusing actual backlash with the backlash DK got from the small number of critics who post on blogs had for it. These same critics also record 30 minute roundtable discussions on Miami Vice, leading me to believe it's much more popular than it really is.

Ha! I wish I could browbeat people into some kind of shame over their movie preferences. What an awesome superpower!

Is that it for today?