The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

Not only that, but even though she's an succesful, independent businesswoman who gets accidentally pregnant with a one-night stand she doesn't care about, the movie never even shows her considering an abortion. Now, it's perfectly possible a woman in her position would nevertheless keep the baby, but it would've nice if the movie would've at least explained why she didn't see abortion as an option. The only time it's brought up is when her mother suggests it, but she is clearly depicted as an Evil Feminist who's opinion doesn't matter.

― Tuomas, Monday, February 8, 2010 4:38 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

so goofy that u think this movie needed a scene like this

she's constructed as an Evil Feminist: she's constructed as an ambitious woman whose life is fucked but will make the best of it, even if it means marrying this stoner slobbo.

*NOT constructed

I think Tuomas was saying that Joanna Kerns is depicted as an Evil Feminist.

The last popular movie I can remember seeing someone decide not to carry to term was 4 mos, 3 wks, 2 days, and I can't think of any before that.

Both Fast Times at Ridgemont High and The Last American Virgin feature not only abortions, but teens having them!

"That was a joke, guys. There has never been a popular abortion."

So Southland Tales wasn't popular?

still pining for haynes to do an all-star rumination on sting's multiple identities next

― da croupier, Monday, February 8, 2010 2:58 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

be still my beating heart

Eh? The Evil Feminist was the mother.

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we do this every time it comes up. there is a deleted scene where she talks about maybe doing it. it's not a good scene. it's not an issues-film and i don't think it's obliged to "explain". but if it did that'd piss off the haters even more i think. like, if she explained why, and their favourtie counterarguments weren't in there... no way to make a movie.

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the mother was not a feminist lol

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the funniest bits are the ones i can't remember, it was just the way ferrell inflected certain lines and stuff. and when in rome! the "set-piece" gags weren't nearly as funny as the throwaway stuff (except maybe the dog/bear confrontation, holy shit a funny dog joke in a movie!!)

― s1ocki

the main character made practially no coherent sense, not least because of the "great beard of zeus!" exclamations, which were some of the funniest things in the film.

― amateur!st

the only part i was wasn't in hysterics over was the news teams throwdown. cameos killed it. and tim robbins as the pbs anchor is only a little funny.

there were very small children in the audience when i saw it. they freaked out when jack black kicked that dog over the bride. i thought they would be traumatized. but when the dog was shown to be alive they cheered!

― ryan

Dude, people, this movie kind of sucked hardcore. The anchorman fight was pretty funny and "Go back to your home on WHORE ISLAND" was a pretty funny line and the dude from the Daily Show was hysterical but seriously wtf. The Pleasure Island sequence was like the absolute worst thing I've seen on film in 6 months!

― Allyzay

I got a kick out of this movie (on a plane, tho, which is always different), but Tom's definitely right about Wet Hot American Summer -- same kind of WTF gags, much richer. I found the fight embarrassingly unfunny. In retrospect I can't remember what, specifically, I found funny about this film, but there was certainly something that got me, as the flight attendant kept asking me if I wanted a Sprite and I kept giggling at her.

― nabisco

This is the thread where we discuss Anchorman

#45

Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy
Adam McKay
2004
United States
(376 points, 18 votes)

dope

most quoted comedy of the decade, easy

she's constructed as an ambitious woman whose life is fucked but will make the best of it, even if it means marrying this stoner slobbo.

Yeah, but the conservativeness comes from the fact that the movie thinks "making the best of it" = keeping the baby and marrying the stoner.

most quoted comedy of the decade, easy

― vincent gallogina (J0rdan S.), Monday, February 8, 2010 1:45 PM (5 seconds ago)

otm, and it was actually funny.

the conservativeness comes from the fact that the movie thinks "making the best of it" = keeping the baby and marrying the stoner.

― Tuomas, Monday, February 8, 2010 9:45 PM (19 seconds ago) Bookmark

it's her right to choose man

i hated 'anchorman' the first time i saw it & still hate steve carrell's character & the bald sports dude -- but will ferrell & the bit parts are so hilarious that it really doesn't matter

ew hate that movie so much, ilx u still sucking, omar u still rocking

We've done the abortion politics of Knocked Up to death. Let's accept Tuomas is the Marc Loi of ILX film threads and move on.

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saying something is conservative because it lacks a certain angle ≠ saying it needs this angle to be worth watching

Haha @ everyone who saw Munich on the poll and immediately presumed no more comedies were going to rate.

this shit is going fast and furious but let me just say

• im not there is a classic, beautifully done all around, "challenging" but not in a corny way

• best in show gets less and less funny for me every time i watch it

• 40 yr old virgin is in retrospect one of my favorite apatows--the scene with romany malco and mike epps is tremendous--steve carrel, sad to say, will never make as good a movie again

• kill bill is a monster, what a stylish flick

• anchorman is will ferrels peak imo (sorry stepbros fans), the kind of movie i will make my kids rent and they wont "get" it and be all dad wtf

• knocked ups conservatism/"misogyny" is waaayyy overstated but yr crazy if you dont think a pretty decent argument can be constructed in its favor--girls hate this movie but i identified w/ it pretty hard

snorg girl still look crazy

The results should be revealed much faster.. I hate all of your opinions.

I remember laughing at Anchorman but not at anything humans were doing. Was there a subplot about intelligent animal fiefdoms I'm misremembering?

there should be a sequel to 'knocked up' where it turns out that seth rogen is tim tebow's father

Outtakes from Anchorman were funnier than the actual film.

ya i think so, also the fact that it presents a traditional two-parent family as a desirable end. goofy imo

― wall•egina (s1ocki), Monday, February 8, 2010 9:40 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark

Yeah, but I can't see the alternative as a plausible ending for a big summer comedy.

Now I'm trying to picture Knockeup Up w/Rudd and Rogen swapping roles.

OK, I'll shut up about this now. Move on!

probably laughed more at anchorman more than any other film. this bit almost killed me:

Ron Burgundy: Boy, that escalated quickly... I mean, that really got out of hand fast.
Champ Kind: It jumped up a notch.
Ron Burgundy: It did, didn't it?
Brick Tamland: Yeah, I stabbed a man in the heart.
Ron Burgundy: I saw that. Brick killed a guy. Did you throw a trident?
Brick Tamland: Yeah, there were horses, and a man on fire, and I killed a guy with a trident.
Ron Burgundy: Brick, I've been meaning to talk to you about that. You should find yourself a safehouse or a relative close by. Lay low for a while, because you're probably wanted for murder.

think the baby was pretty important to the plot of Knocked Up. It could stand to be shorter, but not that much shorter.

im not saying i agree. i just think it's easy to find something in a movie that a conservative might not disagree with and be all AHA about it like u found the da vinci code in there

Anchorman? Oh you guys...

Knocked Up is the kind of movie that's pretty trad all the way around. I don't think pointing that out is exactly A-HA.

haha, 40s in this poll straight-up morbsbait

the fight scene is so funny

my fav part is probably the burrito/bridge/dog scene

anchorman is a stone classic one of the three funniest movies made last decade endless quotable total bros movie

is there like an infuriating contrarian armond white kind of critic out there who is a feminist? or should i just do that myself.

― kicker conspiracy (b. favre ha ha) (daria-g), Thursday, February 4, 2010 10:31 PM (4 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

you should just do that yourself, daria!

Anyway, I wasn't saying Knocked Up is a bad movie or anything. I enjoyed many things in it, like the scenes between Paul Rudd and Leslie Mann. I was just saying is that conservativeness was probably the biggest reason I liked it less than 40YOV.

anchorman is a stone classic one of the three funniest movies made last decade endless quotable total bros movie

― Lamp, Monday, February 8, 2010 1:56 PM (17 seconds ago)

I'd expect you'd feel that way - it would be shocking if you didn't, like if "omar little" disliked The Wire

lamp otm of course

And Knocked Up was still better than Funny People.

There's a dark, malevolent presence in Steve Carrell that none of these movies are capitalizing on.

iirc Apatow was all like 'don't call it conservative, abortions are great but come on, its called knocked up, what is the film going to be if they get an abortion 10 minutes in and never speak to each other again?'

I might go find my copy of Anchorman, havent seen it in forever.

Hard to argue with. Fair enough, complain about the portrayal of women in Apatow movies, but this abortion-politics obsession in regard to a film whose whole premise rests on her keeping the baby struck me as nuts at the time and still does.

fuck any movie that doesn't have at least 1 abortion

but this abortion-politics obsession in regard to a film whose whole premise rests on her keeping the baby struck me as nuts at the time and still does.

have you considered that the whole premise of it could be objectionable?

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Comparing Oldboy to Hollywood product reveals its qualities - its narratively brave, I thought it was incredibly unsentimental (unlike our old mate Armond) and pitiless in its characterisation. The element that is most obviously attention-grabbing is the violence, the octopus, etc. This is the bit that hollywood can and does do, but Park does it better than most American directors, more stylishly, more audaciously, with far more wit. Dargis says 'so what " of this virtuosity, but it is a pleasure in itself.

It is an empty film, with nothing to say, really, but its beautiful and entertaining and frequently funny. Why should it be anything more than that? Because it won a prize at Cannes?

I preferred Sympathy for Mr Vengeance, which is more formally adventurous for its genre (many long takes and static set-ups distancing us) and more cynical without seeming quite so calculated...

― David N

omg f'in amazin. really, some of the self-mutilating violence at the end and MINI-SPOILER - that octopus-eating thing in the sushi place was just UNWATCHABLE DISGUSTING EWWWW (how was that appetizing scene _filmed_ i wanna know? hm?!), but it was just fantastic overall. has anyone seen rain looking more atmospheric than during some of those beginning scenes when he's in jail? even the calendar motif, a temporal technique that's _so_ old and overused, was somehow made to lool inventive and fresh. and am i alone in thinkin woo-jin was HOTT??

also, mark p OTM. i found the 2nd half just as strong, and the final "revelation" to be really poignant and moving, and even believabe, not something that "can't be taken seriously." but maybe 'coz im familiar w/ a culture that is all about honor and self-respect.? ..perhaps Western audiences can't digest something so self-denigrating or self-punishing, as concerns of destroying one's reputation in an individualistic society aren't as important as a collectivist Asian one.

― Vic in Alderaan

The movie starts with inexplicable duress, continues as detective story, with the two combatants circling closer and closer, and then switches suddenly into theatrical juggernaut at the final confrontation. It sounds like pretty typical tragedy to me. The film doesn't become a different one at the end; it merely ups the ante and reaches some sort of hyper-dramatic summation of the opening stages. The scene in the high-rise building (i.e. that confrontation) might be my favourite scene in movie history. It's astonishing and well beyond what anyone was expecting (perhaps this is why people rejected it? Outside the comfort zone and all that).

The 'OMG plot twist' aspect of it simply put everything into sharper context. It didn't change anything that had gone before.

― LJ

I actually really like the villain in Oldboy, in that when he turns up, he's this cheery, upscale, successful guy who also happens to be a freaking psychopath. He's like Patrick Bateman crossed with Goldfinger.

- Edward III

Old Boy

#44

Oldboy
Park Chan-wook
2003
South Korea
(378 points, 18 votes, 1 first place)

yeah that apatow response is classic dude missing the point lol