2008 Primaries Thread 2: THE QUICKENING

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gym coach OTM

right? god my generation is so stupid sometimes

somewhere in a dorm room is excitable red-eyed chatter comparing the relative merits of Bob Marley, Che, Scarface, and Obama.

what a douche

I've been out of the loop (FOR YEARS NOW, HAHA), but when I came up for air, I saw that Wisconsin is all of a sudden a dead-heat. What happened?

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/12159/thumbs/r-OBAMAMOMENTUM-huge.jpg

not sure, really, though i guess obama's lead was never really that significant - usually hovering around 6 or 7 points.

krugman is "worried"

More like Doucheman amirite.

Every time pundits have declared a frontrunner in the Democratic race so far, that frontrunner stumbles. I'm concerned about Wisconsin tonight.

"Concerned" is too strong a word. I'd be happy if HRC is our nominee. I just think her chances against McCain are far worse than Obama's.

stupid liberals always voting for the underdog

Don't worry. Be happy. xpost

so i'm worried a little about the negative stuff - as i mentioned upthread it seems i keep reading tons of headlines about how clinton keeps slamming obama with criticisms -- but i don't hear much coming back from him.

i know obama claimed early on that he didn't want to run a negative campaign, and for the most part, i don't think he has, apart from campaign memos here and there ("hillary say/will do anything to get elected," etc), but i'm wondering if he'll need to cave in and go full throttle as clinton seems to be doing right now.

there's not a huge pool of data to extrapolate any trends from, but with that caveat in mind, hillary did very poorly in SC after she was seen 'going negative' while campaigning there -- though obviously there are huge differences between SC and WI

god, David Brooks is such a douche. Apparently now the tactic -- on both the left and right -- is to write about Obama "fatigue."

I think Obama fatigue is a result of primary fatigue, and since Obama is the interesting story of the primary, primary fatigue has become Obama fatigue.

There's definitely been a rush of articles lately about Obama "cresting."

Too much excitement; you know how it is. The man needs a nap.

Me, too.

Euler OTM, the Clinton campaign was unprepared for a post Super-Tuesday primary campaign, but then, neither was the press.

she was smart to "focus" on TX and OH like WI was a lost cause.

i thought she really tried to step up efforts in the state, though, after her campaign finally realized that basically conceding the post-2/5 february contests was a dumb idea

ooh yeah now she can declare UPSET when really the state has been a close call

YES, SHE IS A TACTICAL GENIUS.

cunning, cold, calculated

haha

If Clinton does pull a WI victory tonight, it likely won't be a sound victory (1-4 points, maybe), this could actually work out in Obama's favor. His momentum seems to ebb and flow and there's no question it's been ebbing the last week. A loss, even though it'll be a statistical tie, would only serve to kick enthusiasm back in gear.

HE IS ALSO A TACTICAL GENIUS.

Democratic Presidential Candidates: Win by Losing.

not saying her team didn't make post 2/5 mistakes, just that I wouldn't be surprised if they looked at the calendar, saw WI as their next possible victory, and set the benchmark for the following round, using WI as lead time.

D, Esq. whats your take on karl rove??

this 'winning by losing' theory could explain the republican party's current platform! quick the dems need to throw their candidate under a bus, nominate biden!

stupid liberals always voting for the underdog

Not when they held their noses (or were just deluded) and voted for Billy!

D, Esq. whats your take on karl rove??

Who is this Karl Rove of whom you speak?

I just want to mention how much I want to slap the "WHY CAN'T THE OBAMA BE HILLERY'S VICE PRINCIPAL OR VICE VERSER" crowd

wrong answer, Daniel

Oh, that Karl Rove. He's also a tactical genius.

I just want to mention how much I want to slap the "WHY CAN'T THE OBAMA BE HILLERY'S VICE PRINCIPAL OR VICE VERSER" crowd

i know, right?

certainly a tentacled genius xpost

i get so sick of this, i just want obama to win okay? fuck i've been a vikings fan my whole life just give me this one god ok????

^^^^^^^ this

i get so sick of this, i just want obama to win okay? fuck i've been a vikings cubs fan my whole life just give me this one god ok????

fixed for my purposes

does anyone honestly give a fuck about these lame "plagiarism" attacks? is that really the best Hillary can do?

Best she can do? She's pulled to, what, within a point of Obama in WI in a week's time? She's doing okay.

But, yes, please just let Obama wrap this thing up soon, for 1000 reasons I've set forth above.

plagiarism hits harder than kindergarten ambitions. as soon as he's charged with stealing lunch money this thing is over.

Most LULZ I've had this week:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjrXhbQA2Jk

wow, that needs to be put in a time capsule.