The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

relationship seemed like the focus of the movie, which is why it was terrible.

also, Superbad charting feels like a real possibility now.

it's a lock, always has been. how would it not be?

surprised to see miami vice so low

a lot of movies i like are appearing way too early

it was the character/narrative backbone in a lot ways, but that's not the same thing as a focus.

xxxxpost

i liked miami vice a lot more the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th times i saw it

I left the theatre on first viewing really just craving a mojito tbh. Yes, much much better the more you watch it.

Superbad never struck me as a lock, but then I don't like it and view its fans with suspicion.

a lot of movies i like are appearing way too early

yes i predict a lot of 'how is that better than miami vice [or other]??'

suspicion of what?

xp

superbadness

"i'm guessing PN can't view Craig as anything but 007"
Don't forget Tomb Raider!

No, Craig is genuinely hilarious in Munich.

re: ideas trumping execution, I feel like there's no shortage of great ideas (and not certain that Munich had any, besides "revenge is often problematic"), and great execution can redeem even shit ideas.

On the other hand, and I haven't seen Miami Vice, but seeing it place that high makes me want to rethink great execution redeeming shit ideas. Without spoiling it, is there something to Miami Vice beyond being an excellent action movie?

I left the theatre on first viewing really just craving a mojito tbh. Yes, much much better the more you watch it.

Superbad never struck me as a lock, but then I don't like it and view its fans with suspicion.

i also predict - should the likes of superbad chart - a theme similar to the ILM tracks poll wrt taylor swift, only substituting teenage/early 20s males for tweeny females.

and i also predict that i will put my crystal ball away right now so that i can go and make the tea.

Yeah, I almost posted about how awesome today's selections are until I remembered we're still in the bottom half. Boo on that, et al.

i love how it just kinda drops you into the middle of everything and then cuts out at the end. it moves really fast for a film that is 140 minutes long and i like a lot of the very deliberate dialogue for the most part. wasn't feeling yero as a villain when i first saw it, but i like how he's this super-jealous and studious plugged-in technogeek, which is something that C&T don't anticipate.

not really an excellent action movie actually xposts

probably the best interracial buddy movie since 'the last boy scout'

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/before-sunset.jpg

I saw this movie at the Seattle Film Festival and thought it was pretty intolerable. Like most of Linklatter's stuff, it's just so smug that I felt uncomfortable watching it. If you liked before sunrise, I suppose you will enjoy this, as it is a slightly more mature form of the smugness that permeated that film. There are passages with some pretty interesting dialogue, but in general the movie is not nearly skeptical enough of its characters; it is just too in love with the solipsistic neuroses of the leads.

― Scott CE

okay this film is fucking amazing. i'm shocked it's tanking, but also shocked it got so much attention in the first place. julie delpy is a fucking DUDE.

― Enrique

this was excellent. I watched it immediately after watching before sunrise for the first time; before sunrise annoyed me a lot, in a slightly embarrassed "god people in their early 20's in the mid-90's are so cliched" way, but I can imagine, had I seen it when it came out, it could have meant a lot to me. But Before Sunset is extraordinary. It's much more natural, for one thing. And even though you know exactly how it will end, maybe that's part of the charm of the thing. One of the best movies of last year, of course.

― kyle

I loved the film and it's one of maybe three or four movies (that I've seen) that have come out in the past fifteen years that have genuinely touched me. Incidentally, Julie Delpy's in another film like that -- Trois Couleurs: Blanc. Whoever was complaining about her acting way upthread must have never seen it -- she's pretty ferocious and wild and hot and intimidating and sultry and seductive and catty and kittenish and... *bites pillow* Mmmm...

― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit!

I'm watching this again for the first time since I saw it in the theater. God damn this is a great movie. It resonates with me so strongly on so many levels and yeah . . . I fucking love this movie.

― ENBB

before sunset

#53

Before Sunset
Richard Linklater
2004
United States
(343 points, 13 votes)

Yeah, I almost posted about how awesome today's selections are until I remembered we're still in the bottom half. Boo on that, et al.

― queen frostine (Eric H.), Monday, February 8, 2010 1:40 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

chillax im sure there'll be good movies in the top 50

you guys are such debbie downers

before sunset has got to be the best unexpected sequel ever.

would be lying if i said i wasn't distracted by daniel craig's attempt at a south african accent in munich.

Superbad is okay and all but come on its not ALL TIME AWESOME or anything

that is vintage I R-M, good grab

munich->miami vice->before sunset triple threat all amazing, all way way too low.

julie delpy is a fucking DUDE.

no avoiding the awful proto-jaggerness of this, but iirc it is ref to me seeing her interviewed (not to her perf or whatever) and... being, uh, a dude, i guess. a mensch.

miami vice my favourite to poll so far. way too low.

*bites pillow*

Is Miami Vice better than Terminator 2? (This is all I could come up with as an example of a great interracial action movie)

chillax im sure there'll be good movies in the top 50

Maybe. It's the top 10 I'm concerned about. It needs Vice!

Love this. It retrospectively improves Before Sunrise too. Part of my enjoyment must be down to being roughly the same age as the characters so when I rewatched Sunrise after Sunset instead of hating Hawke's character as a posturing, pretentious dick I felt quite fond of him, for all his gaucheness. A great pair of movies about youth and the loss of youth.

Miami Vice isn't great because it is an action movie, as it's really not much of one tbh. It's great for other reasons.

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I loved that Hawke's character was a posturing, pretentious dick in Sunrise, mostly because it felt incredibly real to me, and he is exactly the sort of dude who would try to chat up some French girl on his train, with fucking Siddhartha in his backpack or etc. However, the only part of Sunset that bothered me was the idea that this schmuck became a celebrated author.

if youre looking for 'beyond' miami vice isnt really yr movie imo xxxp

trepidation 1-10 will be tweemo japanese cartoon shit.

that wld be awesome!!!!

its like michael mann aggressively trying to NOT 'transcend' anything

'minor celebrated author' might be more accurate. makes sense that his first and only book is about that one night, as he seems the type to obsessively go over one night in his life. xxxpost

miami vice is p enjoyable but i like(d) collateral better it felt more focused and memorable

OK you guys have convinced me to watch Miami Vice without any clue to what its possible charms could be. Hope this works out! Fingers crossed.

I'm not a huge MV fan like some around here, but goddamn it's gorgeous. I even like that Mogwai song at the end. somehow the sensibilities seem similar. it achieves what I think Collateral was going for (in terms of theme and look) but integrates it into the story much more seamlessly, so that there's really no big philosophical speeches or anything. they're just livin it bro.

wondering now if 'grizzly man' will even make the list

OK you guys have convinced me to watch Miami Vice without any clue to what its possible charms could be

Yeah, I bumped it up in my queue.

miami vice is p enjoyable but i like(d) collateral better it felt more focused and memorable

for me collateral plot was more predictable. vice played far more with expectations.

I'll watch Grizzly Man, too, if you guys can vouch that it's better than Miami Vice.

It's better than Miami Vice.

collateral is dece and i wish the ruff had been in MV somehow. it's just not quite there.

Grizzly Man is amazing

grizzly man is super amazing

i wish the ruff had been in MV somehow

this is why Zodiac is so good!

wondering now if 'grizzly man' will even make the list

― do you want to be happier? (whatever), Monday, February 8, 2010 10:56 AM (2 minutes ago)

I hope so: it is one of my three favorite comedies of the decade - the other two being Some Kind of Monster and American Psycho

xpost. "I loved that Hawke's character was a posturing, pretentious dick in Sunrise, mostly because it felt incredibly real to me, and he is exactly the sort of dude who would try to chat up some French girl on his train, with fucking Siddhartha in his backpack or etc."

It's the narcissism of small differences. When I was watching Sunrise as a student I thought I was nothing like Hawke. When I rewatched it in my 30s I thought, oh, actually I was posturing and pretentious in my own, less bearded, more English way so I gave him a lot more slack.

My wife and I still do the Werner Herzog Grizzly Man voice quite frequently.