The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

Explain.

How so? DON'T FUCK WITH THE JEWS.

yeah s1ocki, jokes are the best way to tell the truth (unless you're Judd Ap*tow)

(i'm guessing PN can't view Craig as anything but 007 even in his 15 years of films before Casino Royale? stay away from Love is the Devil then)

I obv don't subscribe to that line of thought, philip, but I'll still take a movie with a handful of solid, transgressive ideas buried within a bunch of half-cocked and ridiculous ones over a movie with no bum ideas but no good ones either. In that sense, yes, cumulative.

"Just from an "image" POV, this was a ballsy film for Spielberg to make"

Guffaw.

the whole Zodiac fan club has checked in now, thx

it was a solid counter argument

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i'm still trying to figure out my take on this... but i guess i'd say there was some stuff i loved but it ultimately felt like 2/3rds of a movie. some fucking AMAZING-looking stuff though. i was actually quite shocked how dark and grainy, gainy, and generally video-y he let it look. ultimately i think collateral may have been more successfully, visually (combining the video with the film was actually quite a good idea in retrospect).

i would say... get really high and see this.

― s1ocki

haha Medulla Oblongta speech got the first spontaneous audience cheer since (ugh) Fahrenheit 911.

I can see why some people don't get it, the Havana scenes and some of the buddy interaction were stilted, but good God when Mann is focused and stripped down it is indeed BADASS.

― milo z

this was GREAT. the relationship subplot was unnecessary and dragged on forever, but everything else was really solid entertainment.

i wished that gong li had stuck to the "hard-headed businesswoman" persona she was projecting in the beginning, and not turned into a vulnerable ho-bag. my favorite character was the female backup who shot the kidnapper.

― Jody Beth Rosen

i think the acting style and dialogue is vastly secondary to how the film was shot, scored, edited, and framed. not a criticism, i just think that mann was trying to make an entire picture of nothing but "michael mann moments" (and trying to get some kind of emotion from what some folks might find to be a cold style and story) and he succeeded. it's like 'gaucho' or something.

― jØrdån (omar little)

come anticipate Miami Vice with me

#54

Miami Vice
Michael Mann
2006
United States
(338 points, 12 votes)

Shockingly low.

This top 10 is not going to represent ILX imo.

Mojitos in Havana.

alright i have a much better grasp on this poll now

yeah s1ocki, jokes are the best way to tell the truth (unless you're Judd Ap*tow)

― Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Monday, February 8, 2010 1:19 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that doesn't mean you have to take them literally. the "truth" in that joke is more about the teller than the subject.

miami vice aged weirdly well for me... definitely placed on my top 50

i would say... get really high and see this.

― s1ocki

:D

shld add that as a tag to every movie really

the relationship subplot was unnecessary and dragged on forever,

^is v. otm

<3 munich and mimi vice. so low-rated! trepidation 1-10 will be tweemo japanese cartoon shit.

Knocked Up has some pretty big, understandable targets for haters, but I guess if you're gonna hate something you might as well go all out.

relationship subplot entirely the opposite of unnecessary imo. Miami Vice is all kinds of amazing.

also, Superbad charting feels like a real possibility now.

also great still choice Omar.

relationship seemed like the focus of the movie, which is why it was terrible.

also, Superbad charting feels like a real possibility now.

it's a lock, always has been. how would it not be?

surprised to see miami vice so low

a lot of movies i like are appearing way too early

it was the character/narrative backbone in a lot ways, but that's not the same thing as a focus.

xxxxpost

i liked miami vice a lot more the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th times i saw it

I left the theatre on first viewing really just craving a mojito tbh. Yes, much much better the more you watch it.

Superbad never struck me as a lock, but then I don't like it and view its fans with suspicion.

a lot of movies i like are appearing way too early

yes i predict a lot of 'how is that better than miami vice [or other]??'

suspicion of what?

xp

superbadness

"i'm guessing PN can't view Craig as anything but 007"
Don't forget Tomb Raider!

No, Craig is genuinely hilarious in Munich.

re: ideas trumping execution, I feel like there's no shortage of great ideas (and not certain that Munich had any, besides "revenge is often problematic"), and great execution can redeem even shit ideas.

On the other hand, and I haven't seen Miami Vice, but seeing it place that high makes me want to rethink great execution redeeming shit ideas. Without spoiling it, is there something to Miami Vice beyond being an excellent action movie?

I left the theatre on first viewing really just craving a mojito tbh. Yes, much much better the more you watch it.

Superbad never struck me as a lock, but then I don't like it and view its fans with suspicion.

i also predict - should the likes of superbad chart - a theme similar to the ILM tracks poll wrt taylor swift, only substituting teenage/early 20s males for tweeny females.

and i also predict that i will put my crystal ball away right now so that i can go and make the tea.

Yeah, I almost posted about how awesome today's selections are until I remembered we're still in the bottom half. Boo on that, et al.

i love how it just kinda drops you into the middle of everything and then cuts out at the end. it moves really fast for a film that is 140 minutes long and i like a lot of the very deliberate dialogue for the most part. wasn't feeling yero as a villain when i first saw it, but i like how he's this super-jealous and studious plugged-in technogeek, which is something that C&T don't anticipate.

not really an excellent action movie actually xposts

probably the best interracial buddy movie since 'the last boy scout'

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I saw this movie at the Seattle Film Festival and thought it was pretty intolerable. Like most of Linklatter's stuff, it's just so smug that I felt uncomfortable watching it. If you liked before sunrise, I suppose you will enjoy this, as it is a slightly more mature form of the smugness that permeated that film. There are passages with some pretty interesting dialogue, but in general the movie is not nearly skeptical enough of its characters; it is just too in love with the solipsistic neuroses of the leads.

― Scott CE

okay this film is fucking amazing. i'm shocked it's tanking, but also shocked it got so much attention in the first place. julie delpy is a fucking DUDE.

― Enrique

this was excellent. I watched it immediately after watching before sunrise for the first time; before sunrise annoyed me a lot, in a slightly embarrassed "god people in their early 20's in the mid-90's are so cliched" way, but I can imagine, had I seen it when it came out, it could have meant a lot to me. But Before Sunset is extraordinary. It's much more natural, for one thing. And even though you know exactly how it will end, maybe that's part of the charm of the thing. One of the best movies of last year, of course.

― kyle

I loved the film and it's one of maybe three or four movies (that I've seen) that have come out in the past fifteen years that have genuinely touched me. Incidentally, Julie Delpy's in another film like that -- Trois Couleurs: Blanc. Whoever was complaining about her acting way upthread must have never seen it -- she's pretty ferocious and wild and hot and intimidating and sultry and seductive and catty and kittenish and... *bites pillow* Mmmm...

― Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit!

I'm watching this again for the first time since I saw it in the theater. God damn this is a great movie. It resonates with me so strongly on so many levels and yeah . . . I fucking love this movie.

― ENBB

before sunset

#53

Before Sunset
Richard Linklater
2004
United States
(343 points, 13 votes)

Yeah, I almost posted about how awesome today's selections are until I remembered we're still in the bottom half. Boo on that, et al.

― queen frostine (Eric H.), Monday, February 8, 2010 1:40 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

chillax im sure there'll be good movies in the top 50

you guys are such debbie downers

before sunset has got to be the best unexpected sequel ever.

would be lying if i said i wasn't distracted by daniel craig's attempt at a south african accent in munich.

Superbad is okay and all but come on its not ALL TIME AWESOME or anything

that is vintage I R-M, good grab

munich->miami vice->before sunset triple threat all amazing, all way way too low.

julie delpy is a fucking DUDE.

no avoiding the awful proto-jaggerness of this, but iirc it is ref to me seeing her interviewed (not to her perf or whatever) and... being, uh, a dude, i guess. a mensch.

miami vice my favourite to poll so far. way too low.

*bites pillow*

Is Miami Vice better than Terminator 2? (This is all I could come up with as an example of a great interracial action movie)

chillax im sure there'll be good movies in the top 50

Maybe. It's the top 10 I'm concerned about. It needs Vice!

Love this. It retrospectively improves Before Sunrise too. Part of my enjoyment must be down to being roughly the same age as the characters so when I rewatched Sunrise after Sunset instead of hating Hawke's character as a posturing, pretentious dick I felt quite fond of him, for all his gaucheness. A great pair of movies about youth and the loss of youth.