The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

I guess I should get around to seeing Munich one of these days... but... hate.. Spielberg... so... much

where were you a few days ago?

Of sufficient complexity that the morons in Knocked Up didn't get it.

also, has Ciaran Hinds gotten a good part since this? Totally wasted in Milkshake.

(I'm pretty sure you can't blame me or Eric for those fountainfish)

Hinds made a great Julius Caesar.

That may have been pre-Munich, though.

I guess I should get around to seeing Munich one of these days... but... hate.. Spielberg... so... much

Really? Hadn't noticed.

Hinds quality in this 3 minutes in Miami Vice.

Munich line in Knocked Up made me laughed. I voted for both of those films.

Shakey Mo needs some of Seth Rogen's weed

"also, has Ciaran Hinds gotten a good part since this?"

I'm sure he's done something great on brit television.

The dude from kings and queens is good in Munich as the snotty jealous kid, and I liked him here more than in kings and queens, but it could be because I don't know French.

Love when he calls himself "intellectually promiscuous."

ya the munich thing in knocked up was, like, a joke iirc

anyway, it's about time i re-screened munich. loved it on first viewing, am pretty sure it will have aged well.

munich is pretty dope and i think i appreciate its moral quandaries a little more ever since i took this fairly intensive pre-wedding course on judaism, but there are still a few touches to the film i think are false (super-minor directorial flourishes more than anything), and the execution of the sex scene is iffy at best, but it deserves a spot up in here.

xxpost I think it was one of those truthy jokes, tho, like Ashton and Sean making out in Dude, Where's My Car?

Eric Bana wears sweat very well too.

never saw Rome, Hinds is in the H Potter finale.

Just from an "image" POV, this was a ballsy film for Spielberg to make -- Tony Kushnerized take on Israeli vengeance that got the AIPAC crowd mega-pissed at him, after he'd become their poster boy with Schindler's List and his attendant sponsorship of Holocaust-related cultural projects.

What Alfred said. Like Almaric's character, I am intellectually horny.

I think it's Daniel Craig rather than the sex scene that turns Munich into a farce that can't be taken seriously, but it's all cumulative, I guess.

Explain.

How so? DON'T FUCK WITH THE JEWS.

yeah s1ocki, jokes are the best way to tell the truth (unless you're Judd Ap*tow)

(i'm guessing PN can't view Craig as anything but 007 even in his 15 years of films before Casino Royale? stay away from Love is the Devil then)

I obv don't subscribe to that line of thought, philip, but I'll still take a movie with a handful of solid, transgressive ideas buried within a bunch of half-cocked and ridiculous ones over a movie with no bum ideas but no good ones either. In that sense, yes, cumulative.

"Just from an "image" POV, this was a ballsy film for Spielberg to make"

Guffaw.

the whole Zodiac fan club has checked in now, thx

it was a solid counter argument

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i'm still trying to figure out my take on this... but i guess i'd say there was some stuff i loved but it ultimately felt like 2/3rds of a movie. some fucking AMAZING-looking stuff though. i was actually quite shocked how dark and grainy, gainy, and generally video-y he let it look. ultimately i think collateral may have been more successfully, visually (combining the video with the film was actually quite a good idea in retrospect).

i would say... get really high and see this.

― s1ocki

haha Medulla Oblongta speech got the first spontaneous audience cheer since (ugh) Fahrenheit 911.

I can see why some people don't get it, the Havana scenes and some of the buddy interaction were stilted, but good God when Mann is focused and stripped down it is indeed BADASS.

― milo z

this was GREAT. the relationship subplot was unnecessary and dragged on forever, but everything else was really solid entertainment.

i wished that gong li had stuck to the "hard-headed businesswoman" persona she was projecting in the beginning, and not turned into a vulnerable ho-bag. my favorite character was the female backup who shot the kidnapper.

― Jody Beth Rosen

i think the acting style and dialogue is vastly secondary to how the film was shot, scored, edited, and framed. not a criticism, i just think that mann was trying to make an entire picture of nothing but "michael mann moments" (and trying to get some kind of emotion from what some folks might find to be a cold style and story) and he succeeded. it's like 'gaucho' or something.

― jØrdån (omar little)

come anticipate Miami Vice with me

#54

Miami Vice
Michael Mann
2006
United States
(338 points, 12 votes)

Shockingly low.

This top 10 is not going to represent ILX imo.

Mojitos in Havana.

alright i have a much better grasp on this poll now

yeah s1ocki, jokes are the best way to tell the truth (unless you're Judd Ap*tow)

― Fusty Moralizer (Dr Morbius), Monday, February 8, 2010 1:19 PM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

that doesn't mean you have to take them literally. the "truth" in that joke is more about the teller than the subject.

miami vice aged weirdly well for me... definitely placed on my top 50

i would say... get really high and see this.

― s1ocki

:D

shld add that as a tag to every movie really

the relationship subplot was unnecessary and dragged on forever,

^is v. otm

<3 munich and mimi vice. so low-rated! trepidation 1-10 will be tweemo japanese cartoon shit.

Knocked Up has some pretty big, understandable targets for haters, but I guess if you're gonna hate something you might as well go all out.

relationship subplot entirely the opposite of unnecessary imo. Miami Vice is all kinds of amazing.

also, Superbad charting feels like a real possibility now.

also great still choice Omar.

relationship seemed like the focus of the movie, which is why it was terrible.

also, Superbad charting feels like a real possibility now.

it's a lock, always has been. how would it not be?

surprised to see miami vice so low

a lot of movies i like are appearing way too early

it was the character/narrative backbone in a lot ways, but that's not the same thing as a focus.

xxxxpost

i liked miami vice a lot more the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th times i saw it

I left the theatre on first viewing really just craving a mojito tbh. Yes, much much better the more you watch it.

Superbad never struck me as a lock, but then I don't like it and view its fans with suspicion.

a lot of movies i like are appearing way too early

yes i predict a lot of 'how is that better than miami vice [or other]??'

suspicion of what?

xp

superbadness