The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

8/40 - Audition, Sexy Beast, 28 Days Later, The Lives of Others, Finding Nemo, Capturing the Friedmans, In Bruges, Sideways,

Think I forgot to vote for LATE MARRIAGE, hope others remembered :/

I think it fell just outside my top 40, but can't remember offhand. Best sex scene of the '00s, tho.

ok. just one thought here:

Audition is absolutely terrifying if you don't know what you're in for. A friend gave it to me on VHS in the fall of 2000, just like 'hey you'll like this.'

otm. I wrote a similar account upthread of introducing this to my gr w/out letting her know it was a horror film. The atmosphere is sooo tranquil & then (SPOILER) that scene w/ the telephone & burlap-sack dude from outta nowhere..

*gf

Think I forgot to vote for LATE MARRIAGE, hope others remembered :/

― autotuna fish (Tape Store), Saturday, February 6, 2010 1:58 AM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

aghhhhhhh

AGHHHHHH

oh hey it is a new day, so i assume the positivity clause no longer matters, so i would like to say that Brick is a fucking bag of bullshit and i am sad for the people that got suckered into voting for it. incomprehensible mumbling and idiot plotting does not equal modern noir just because no one can figure out what anyone is saying or what is going on. PIECE OF SHIT.

hate that fucking movie more than anything else thats showed up.

sorry to be such a dick but tons of people have tried to get me to love that movie and i have gotten stuck watching it like 4 times and as far as i can tell it is worthless. sorry dudes. its one of my flashpoint anger movies.

For some reason I decided to watch Brick with the subtitles on and it really helped.

nb: I'm like 80% drunk right now

I voted for Brick, but I'll be completely honest and say that I haven't seen it since the theater where I completely loved it. I can't defend it on a point to point basis, other than it felt absolutely true to the spirit of Chandler/et al. when I saw it. And I still think cutting to black (credits) as the first chords of "Sister Ray" cue up is a genius move.

Dr. Morbius, when you say You Can Count On Me (which I haven't seen) is a first-rate TV movie, how does it compare to something like Killer of Sheep? (which is hands-down the best movie I saw in a theater in this decade, RIP revival showings in Dallas.) The only strain of indie movie I rated (or overrated) this decade shared some DNA with KoS ("little naturalistic details," per Eric H), but maybe I've missed some elements that separate it - are indies like YCCOM too comfortable with standard narrative or something?

Movies I've voted for:

100. Morvern Callar (204 pts, 13 votes) - the party scene (after boyfriend's suicide, pre-Spain) set to Aphex Twin is stunning. Despite being a culture (musically, artistically) completely removed from what I experienced it feels absolutely familiar, and I think the dryness, the way Morvern moves from the suicide to partying speaks more to what's really happening here than anything else in the movie. Supermarket scene set to Nancy & Lee is quite beautiful too,

96. High Fidelity (214 pts, 10 votes) - along with Almost Famous, movies that sometimes make me feel not "smart enough to dislike them." Earnest (maybe even dumb) in a way unsuited to ILE, maybe.

86. All the Real Girls (224.5 pts, 12 votes) - Probably not justifiable, honestly, and I don't know if I'd vote for it if I encountered the movie today. DGG's lingering shots of southern weirdness seem less interesting today than before I'd heard of Ralph Eugene Meatyard. Romanticism of the south is all well and good, but DGG does it for a south that doesn't exist and probably never did. I'm not even sure I'd find his portrayal of young love honest - but it seemed that way when I experienced the movie originally.

82. Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World (231.5 pts, 13 votes) - a great, throwback action movie with fine performances all around, the kind of movie that gets unjustly forgotten as time passes.

66. A.I. Artificial Intelligence (274 points, 17 votes)) - did not vote for it, hated it at the time for Spielbergizing the ending (I thought it should have ended with the toy boy under sea, stuck forever staring at what is illuminated by that light. But I think the movie's champions are probably right, and where Spielberg took it after that (meeting his mother, etc.) is probably richer and more interesting.

don't really get the "tv movie" thing. what tv movie ever is YCCOM like? is that just shorthand for saying "it doesn't have robots in it"?

I'm kind of put off by how much more accessible it is than the guy's other films
-morbs

such a morbs thing to say. dr do u have a link to ur end of decade 100?

"hate that fucking movie more than anything else thats showed up."

Me too. Took the afternoon off to see it on my birthday one year and then took about two hours in the pub to get the day back on track. I wasn't just angry with the film-makers, but with any critic or friend who had recommended it to me.

4 out of my top 40 have made it so far: The Piano Teacher, Happy-Go-Lucky, Together, and Amélie. I saw Yi Yi in the cinema when it came out, and I remember liking it, but I have absolutely no recollection of what it was about, so I didn't vote for it. All I can remember is seeing it with some friend, who complained that it was too long and slow, but it didn't bother me.

I would've voted for Audition, but damn IMDb tricked me into thinking it's a 1999 movie, so I thought it was not eligible. I remember seeing it 10 years ago at a film festival, the festival catalogue text for it was pretty vague, so I didn't quite know what to expect. I'd seen a couple of Miike movies before, so I knew something weird might happen, but boy didn't I expect that! I feel kinda sad for people who have been spoiled about the movie beforehand. I haven't seen Audition ever since, but I think it'll remain burned into my memory forever.

13/45 = I think I win. squid & whale, kings & queen, you can count on me, diving bell & butterfly, happy-go-lucky, memories of murder, far from heaven, together, piano teacher, the host, lives of others, in the loop, borat.

However the fact that I voted for quite a few films that weren't even nominated = dave chappelle's block party, curse of the golden flower, etc. means I probably won't win.

I never get to see enough Miike, LOVE what I've seen tho'

Really happy Memories of Murder got in! Had no idea it was so highly regarded, just caught it on TV one evening at random.

I think I've given up hoping that My Summer of Love or Science of Sleep will sneak in.

re:my summer of love, was pawlikowski's earlier (better) film, last resort, eligible?

think so. i prefer MSOL, but only narrowly. science of sleep was dogshit, one of the worst films i've ever seen.

i think i liked YCCOM but if 13GO30 doesn't chart im gonna be very upset.

why don't people wait until it's done and post their lists in full?

thanks thread for the Together recommendation. just saw it and loved it!

― Moreno, Saturday, February 6, 2010 6:08 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

aw, this is a good post.

i've put 'must love dogs' on my lovefilm list and well, i don't have high hopes, but we can all dream.

Diane Lane is ridiculously attractive imo

i voted for Last Resort but i guess it won't get in. speaking of Paddy Considine i guess Dead Man's Shoes won't either...

i started to watch Wet Hot American Summer tonight thanks to this thread but turned it off because it was not funny

xposts

Science of Sleep isn't dogshit, it just isn't very good. WS Charlotte Gainsbourg. Oh, and to whomever wondered about her and watching AntiChrist: There are things you can't unsee.

is together the film with the highest per-vote vag so far?

vag lol

WS Charlotte Gainsbourg.

i think i hated SoS beyond reason *because* of this. that film is the absolute nadir of 00s manchild-ness. im not sure la gainsbourg makes great choices, as an actress. im fully committed to never seeing 'antichrist'.

have to agree. SoS really is the absolute pits. i had to switch it off about an hour in.

yeah sorry gukbe, got to add to the chorus here. despite tht and despite myself, I did really enjoy be kind rewind so go figure

Have liked all of Gondry's features (didnt see the Chappelle one yet).

I am not putting down YCCOM in any way; I LIKE it. However, to be in the top 40 of an entire decade requires more filmic qualities. ie, most narrative films imitate novels and plays, and this one (written & directed by a playwright) certainly does.

I reserve the right to break this rule of course.

ppl who go to movies blazed, I don't particularly need to hear what you thought of anything...

got it grandpa

You'd have heard the same from me when I was 19. You DO comprehend how the impression something made on yr altered consciousness tells me nothing about it, right?

also milo, Killer of Sheep is a totally cinematic experience. I can't count it as an '00s film, no matter its distribution history, cuz I saw it in the early '90s, but I'd put it in the top 20 if I did.

I watched "Freddie Got Fingered" stoned with some friends a few weeks ago, because one of them said that it's a good movie to watch while high. He was right, in the sense that I never ever would've managed to watch it all the way through without the weed. So sometimes an altered consciousness makes all the difference.

cozen, Edward Yang made long (4 hours sometimes), slow movies which would bore the pants off 99% of filmgoers. Yi Yi is his Die Hard by comparison; that's all I meant.

hated it at the time for Spielbergizing the ending

OK, this is the last time I'm noting that Kubrick devised the ending of A.I. And ending with David at the bottom of the sea -- wtf, really?

also, how is the ACTUAL ending SPIELBERGIZED [sic]? Sure is sunny and beatific, isn't it? You make no sense.

apols, morbs

do you have a link to ur official eod list?

silence of sleep is (i think) the only movie i walked out of this decade. fuck yr whimsy, gondry.

SCIENCE, even. jeez.

Science of Sleep was a beguiling little film, a love story that, somewhere in amongst its homespun flights of fancy, managed, for me, to hit correctly the frustration of trying to make a relationship work when, for whatever reason, there is a difficulty in communication between the two of you. One person doesn't 'get' the other, and things become strained.
The Gael García Bernal character is, I admit, a bit of a petulant kidult, and the whimsy is over-egged at times, but there was still plenty that chimed with me.

You DO comprehend how the impression something made on yr altered consciousness tells me nothing about it, right?

― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Saturday, February 6, 2010 7:56 AM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

all consciousness is altered maaaan

I'm no fan of Science of Sleep ftr. It is most definitely not a good film. But to call it dogshit is to overstate the case. The Gondry-needs-a-screenwriter cliché is well worn but true. It's an unfocused mess, and the main guy is a manchild as stated above. While I appreciate there are fleeting moments of honesty (the bar scene, as cringeworthy as it is, is good), it is too much whimsy etc... Still, some of the visuals were nice, and that's enough to raise it up from the level of dogshit or a total waste.

i really wanted to like 'be kind rewind', and i think i did manage to convince myself i'd liked it for a bit, but in the end i think the problem was not, oddly for gondry, the script, but the uh "odd couple" lameness of jack black and mos def. super-annoying dillwad who hasn't been funny since, i don't know, 'heat vision and jack'?, meets the incredible charisma-less man.

yeah Mos Def should not be in movies imo, or at least never comedies. still can't believe they put him in Hitchhiker's Guide.

i understood that movie a lot better when i realized days after watching it jack blacks character was supposed to be actually insane not just some guy trying way to hard to be wacky ala jack black

OK, this is the last time I'm noting that Kubrick devised the ending of A.I. And ending with David at the bottom of the sea -- wtf, really?

I dunno, it struck me as perfect 70s type bleakout ending a la two lane blacktop, also would make perfect sense if you were high dude

yeah that was totally the most spielbergian ending ever, agreed

Two more from my ballot in this last batch: Ratatouille and Kung Fu Hustle. Six total so far.