The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

slightly hunched over to accentuate my paunch

lol

2 more movies to go for the day....

You Can Count On Me definitely benefits from its modesty and from the presence of Linney and Ruffalo. I could relate to it because I grew up in exactly that kind of small working class upstate new york town

ruffalo stance (J0rdan S.) wrote this on thread CHRIS BROWN on board I Love Music on Jul 7, 2009

yeah sorry man i don't read chris brown threads

but more power to you

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I loved it (score was annoying at times though...). Not an updated noir at all, just a noir. Or more acurately, probably the most literal translation of Hammet/Chandler I've ever seen, so what if they're teenagers in modern day california? Very much Red Harvest/Glass Key, would make a nice double feature with Miller's Crossing, which shares much of it's slang, and quite a bit more. I found the dialogue a bit distracting, though wonderful, while I could handle the teenagers experiance paralleling the Continental Ops, and respect all the modern slang, found it weird to hear everyone talk like a 30s gangster. But everything about it is 100% the books in a way no film noir movie I've ever seen totally is. All those scenes of getting beat up, getting knocked out, waking up disoriented and so on...I like how it was handled here better then Murder, My Sweet.

― Dan Selzer

C'MON YOU KNOW THIS MOVIE SUCKS.

― chaki

did anyone else think The Pin looked like Momus?

― DV

Finally got round to seeing this tonight. Along with most people that aren't Chaki, I really enjoyed it, but struggled with the dialogue. This didn't spoil my enjoyment one little bit, but I think I may like to watch again in more conducive circumstances (i.e. on my own) and concentrate more.

I liked some of the little touches like the blurred view when Brendan wasn't wearing his glasses. I liked the mother - reminded you that the kids were actually still kids.

― ailsa

This is weird to me, since so much of the obvious surface-level fun and recognition of the thing comes from the way the high-school setting is already noir. Someone's already mentioned the "where have you been eating lunch" slang, which is a good example of that -- but it goes beyond the slang, really, into the idea of high schools as microcosms where there really is an importance to where you're eating lunch, with complex heirarchies and subterranean groups and social scheming that's as noir as anything from the get-go. Most of the great moments of crossover and recognition come from that, with the assistant principal scene probably chief among them -- the ass VP is the police of the high school world, the disciplinarian, the one adult who's actually (in the real world!) trying to keep track of how a high school's worlds operate (they have informants and shit!), and so it turns out to be a rather narrow exaggeration to have one taking on that role, right?

― nabisco

come anticipate 'Brick' with me!

#57

Brick
Rian Johnson
2005
United States
(309.5 points, 12 votes, 1 first place)

<3 you can count on me

great little role for broderick too.

also this is true for me too:

I could relate to it because I grew up in exactly that kind of small working class upstate new york town

i remember seeing this one in the movie theater super blazed and having NO idea what to think of it

""box" from three is soooooo much more than a ghost story, it's a surreal masterpiece, unconscious filmmaking in the best sense of the word"

Meaning you have to be unconscious to enjoy it, I guess.

brick would have gotten my anti-vote if i had one

<3 brick. the evil girl who would later be rubbish in heroes for like 2 episodes was soooooo cute as well. if i wasn't busy i'd gis and post to ws.

what was that gangster movie but with all the parts played by kids - Bugsy Malone? Brick reminded me of that.

You will have a chance. After this wraps I'll start the worst film of ILX Top 100 films of the 2000s Poll poll

definite comfort movie for me.

i have brick in my netflix queue but i keep bumping it down cuz i'm afraid i'll hate it.

i like bugsy malone tho, so maybe.

You will have a chance. After this wraps I'll start the worst film of ILX Top 100 films of the 2000s Poll poll

― smashing aspirant (milo z), Friday, February 5, 2010 2:56 PM (33 seconds ago)

Awesome!

yeah that'll be a blast

w/ abanana and sarahel re: Brick

second movie i've not even heard of

geez I forgot brick and the lookout :(((( both are great. was the lookout even nominated? I would probably have put that in my top 10 for personal baggage reasons.

Great, I'll get the chance to watch Kill Bill 2, unless we're allowed to nominate films we haven't seen?

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"No, but I read the thread"

i'd be more willing to go along w/ the conceit if the noir plot element was more worthwhile. the cute chick turned out to be the killer? you don't say.

the evil girl who would later be rubbish in heroes for like 2 episodes was soooooo cute as well. if i wasn't busy i'd gis and post to ws.

Nora Zehetner. She was cute as Young Helena Boham Carter in Conversations with Other Women, too.

I think we should totally be allowed to nominate films we haven't seen, especially if we haven't read the thread.

arrrgh Brick fuck that movie. made me really angry

c'mon that's no distinction is it?

How did it make you angry? It just seemed too dopey to generate anger.

i remember seeing this one in the movie theater super blazed and having NO idea what to think of it

― brews before HOOS (s1ocki), Friday, February 5, 2010 5:54 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

haha this was my experience too--i ate a brownie and after i left i wasnt even sure if my memory of the movie was right--like maybe my stoned mind had imagined the noir slang

Brick isn't fit to lick the cream-pie off Bugsy Malone's ass

I'm not gonna re-hash my problems with it, I posted plenty in that thread...

bugsy malone is one of the mose unsettling things i've ever seen. i have trouble understanding the decision making that brought that about.

it also made me think of the movie the dudes in American Movie would make if they were younger and trying to make a noir film instead of a horror movie.

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My favorite Edward Yang scene -- which is close to saying my favorite scene, period -- takes place about halfway through Yi Yi. It's the scene where Yang-Yang, overwhelmed by the events of his family, and kind of naively-crushing on his schoolmate (who he has learned is a good swimmer) decides he will let himself into an unsupervised city pool. To...? Beyond the verb of "swim" it's unclear what his motives are. He's only about 7 or so, I think. Now, as the film's larger events unwind around and past him, his private pursuit of The Girl has gained an eerie seriousness in his mind. And the moment he jumps into the pool -- wholly unobserved -- the stakes of his life flare super-real to us. I think it's impossible to be unaware and unaffected by his danger, by Yang-Yang's self-inflicted peril for such tiny and improbable gains. What does he stand to receive, after all? To be a little like the girl he secretly adores?

It's as he jumps in alone that he's transformed from a strange little boy into a great, symbolic thing: not just the comic ape whose antics we've come to love, but every audience member’s total heart. The silly, soft-infected child who’d risk his life to understand his (secret) girl a little better. It’s doubtful there's not another moment in cinema that's been able to evoke such a paternalistic fear and compassion. And it's all so perfectly conducted! Yang Yang ends up fine. He's just a little boy swimming, after all. And in the next scene we see him, happy as a clam, we feel a little silly for going so far into our paranoia. The best part of all, of course, as that this is all accomplished with only incidental sound, in a few seconds, and with the technical restrain for which Yang is rightly acclaimed..

― remy bean

yi-yi i liked quite a lot, though it was a while ago. it was convincingly domestic, i guess i would say. it made the twists of the family's life seem HUGE w/o making them unreal.

though i do remember what a friend of mine said afterwards: "it's true kids can be surprising, but this kid was consistently surprising."

― typo acapulco

the kid has all the best aspects of being a kid AND all the best aspects of being an adult! except sex!

and he gets all the best lines too.

― David.

and the music to yi-yi... is just... stunning. like all the best Japanese computer games melted down and molded (minus the µ-Ziq bent electronica) (plus Final Fantasy's overly-sentimental lilt).

― David.

#56

Yi Yi: A One and a Two
Edward Yang
2000
Taiwan
(313 points, 12 votes)

I remember thinking I would *love* Yi Yi, but it didn't quite click for me. Would like to see it again.

A movie I've always meant to see.

Although generally Taiwanese films are not my thing.

it's great, i need to see it again.

Watched this a coupla nites ago on an Ilx recommendation and was a little underwhelmed tbh.

I loved Yi Yi, although I haven't seen it since I saw it in the theater.

a lot of these movies I need to see again, can't remember enough about them.

never heard of it

Though I didn't love Yi-Yi on first viewing... it was my #2 vote on the polls. I don't look at this film as "Taiwanese", I see it as a chilling modern familial drama that could easily take place in the West (Yang lived in the US over 30 years until he died). It's 3 hours long but it has to be the most dense 3 hour film I've ever seen, no shot is wasted... even the most minor characters' brief lines echo larger themes on subsequent views. One of my alltime faves, can't believe I didn't appreciate it at first at all.

i saw yi yi in the theater and loved it, but now my memory is a little hazy. i feel like it's 3 hours of ppl slowly working up to screaming at each other while the dad looks on in bewilderment and disgust.

(btw this is the third of my old usernames qtd in this thread! that's... just weird to me, for some rzn)

brick is the first movie i've cared enough about to post in this thread.

also, that remy quote is great.

"I don't look at this film as "Taiwanese""

I am making wide and possibly unfair generalization about Taiwanese films now, but I think of them as being long, slow neo-realistic family dramas. That might be just what makes it here admittedly.

Loved Yi Yi. Would have been in my top 3.

jeez some good stuff today...i voted sexy beast #1 btw, s1ocki stated a lot of my reasons. funny that ppl just dismiss it as a genre heist movie, ive never thought of it that way at all.

you can count on me was #4 on my ballot, i love that movie

Yi Yi was also on my ballot..there are some incredibly indelible scenes in it, maybe a weird one 2 pinpoint but i think most abt the traffic light scene, its really beautiful