The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

This is my favourite thread in weeks

oh, one more thought on Todd Haynes' version of Sirk:
nearly all the actors are better.

that nude wrestling completely upended the movie imo

― Dan S, Friday, February 5, 2010 1:07 PM (4 minutes ago)

this scene was "borrowed"* pretty much from Jackass 2 in which guest-skit-director John Waters has Wee Man on a bed and gets a 400 pound naked woman to belly flop on him, then Waters pretends he's unhappy with the take, then on the next take (unknown to Wee Man) he substitutes the equally rotund Preston Lacy for the woman to do the same belly flop.

*Jackass 2 only came out a couple months before Borat iirc, not sure this was intentional or not.

― ┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Friday, February 5, 2010 4:15 PM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

did u know if u prefer jackass 2 to jackass 1 it means u r gay
--ice cr?m

I like Miike, but Audition is basically three amazing scenes surrounded by not much else.

I have only seen Jackass One thus far and Two getting gayer would make for a fascinating math equation

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sexy beast is better than get carter

- mark s

"Peaches" by the Stranglers opening Sexy Beast. PERFECTION!

- Alex in NYC

For the compleat homicidal maniac look, shave outside the shower while whispering to yourself in the mirror. Eg: the unforgettable scene with Ben Kingsley in Sexy Beast.

- colin s barrow

#60

Sexy Beast
Jonathan Glazer
2001
United Kingdom
(298.5 points, 15 votes, 1 first place)

okay that's kinda inexplicable

Sexy Beast isn't bad by any means but I don't recall anything special about it. middling gangster film.

yeah now we're back to ordinary goodish movies.

I like Miike, but Audition is basically three amazing scenes surrounded by not much else. - & I would argue that the "not much else" placidly setting the stage for the disruptive rip of those "three amazing scenes" (tho I would argue for 4 or 5) is part of what makes this film so brilliant.

Sexy Beast is better than the Stallone version of Get Carter.

well what's great about it are the three main performances and the structure imo (two villains who play perfectly off the protagonist's fears and paranoia: one completely virulent and hateful and terrifying, one completely unreadable and calm and spooky)

Have seen and liked a few Miike things, but judged myself way too squeamish for this. (and I liked Ichi the Killer, but probably won't ever watch that again)

morbz, you have to see audition! there isn't anything in it that's worse than what's in ichi the killer, plus I'm thinking a lot of the horror guys don't like this because it's actually a DRAMA in sheep's clothing, or maybe a psychological thriller. the gory stuff is character-driven and symbolic.

uh guess who voted it number 1

Yeah but the amazingness of those scenes doesn't make the rest of the film any more enjoyable to watch though.

really well-directed too. it's probably the only british gangster film i think is worth anything from the past 10 years or so (possibly forgetting something.)

love the scene in sexy beast of the fat old sunburnt british thugs paddling around underwater in speedos.

for me, ben kingsley ultimately renders sb unwatchable.

but i have to admit that the dream sequences w/ the black rabbit on horseback are terrifying.

Voting Sexy Beast the best movie of the past decade is pretty mind-boggling (great performances or not.)

only thing I remember about Sexy Beast is "Peaches" intro shot tbh

me too, though I haven't seen it for like 8 years

I liked Sexy Beast a lot (& it got axed from my shortlist), but it did fall apart a bit in the third act iirc. Once the tension moves from the looming presence of Kingsley over Winstone's life & gets down to the underwater bank robbery, it basically turns into a middling heist flick.

"I'm thinking a lot of the horror guys don't like this because it's actually a DRAMA in sheep's clothing"
I thought it was trenchant feminist commentary on family/gender roles!

I have only seen Jackass One thus far and Two getting gayer would make for a fascinating math equation

― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Friday, February 5, 2010 1:36 PM (7 minutes ago)

John Waters, Rip Taylor, oh how about the opening scene Pontius sticks his dick (in a mouse "costume") into a glory hole*?

*leading into a snake's cage.

I thought Kingsley was better in The Wackness than in Sexy Beast.

just saw Inland Empire again, which has revived my taste for at least psychological horror if not actual horror. The Audition Sounds intriguing.

the guy(s?) who wrote Sexy Beast have a new film opening in NYC today w/ a bunch of character actors (Winstone, J Hurt etc) trying to decide what to do with a beatup kidnapee (Melvil Poupaud) in a room. Sounds like must-to-avoid.

re: audition's horrorness -- It's horror in the sense that horrifying things happen. but there's horrifying things in Rachel Getting Married, too.

iirc there isn't a general theme of dismemberment in RGM

I hope Ashley Macisaac isnt in Audition

i can't imagine watching 'audition' would be so bad if you sat through 'ichii'? i haven't seen the latter - horror films upset me a lot more than they used to - but 'audition' isn't that bad except for a few moments. the way it suddenly goes off the rails was pretty well done, i thought

"I thought it was trenchant feminist commentary on family/gender roles!

― Philip Nunez, Friday, February 5, 2010"

yr thinking of visitor q.

I can't remember, does the guy-in-a-sack subplot in Audition ever get resolved? Spoilers here I guess.

which was my miike pick, and remains so: if yr gonna go batshit, might as well go all the way.

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not to spoil it, but there's implied body mayhem in RGM.

visitor Q to me, seemed like a Mary Poppins remake with lactation.

[SPOILER]no[/SPOILER]

it's not really a miike film til someone starts lactating

John Waters, Rip Taylor, oh how about the opening scene Pontius sticks his dick (in a mouse "costume") into a glory hole*?

*leading into a snake's cage.

See, now you're just making it sound like another dose of Alfred's "gay panic."

I like Miike, but Audition is basically three amazing scenes surrounded by not much else

maybe if you're not into good screenwriting.... but the dialogue in the "down parts" of audition is always on-point and serving the bigger themes of the film. I'm just delighted by little bits in the film, like when shigeharu is watching a video clip of kids slamdancing with his editor....

Shigeharu: It's like a ceremony for worshipers.
Editor: They're pretty much the same, lonely.
Shigeharu: Happy people wouldn't go to that kind of concert.
Editor: The whole of Japan's lonely.
Shigeharu: Are you?
Editor: (grinning knowingly) You too, right?

or when he and his friend are posing as casting directors, interviewing actresses as potential girlfriends for shigeharu, and one of the questions they ask is "do you like tarkovsky?"

or the restaurant date with asami and shigeharu where he willfully misinterprets every single thing she says

the script is also really smart about what it reveals, and when it reveals it

f'kn love that movie

"two or three amazing scenes" that wouldn't mean jack without the build up.

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I'm going to start throwing out everything in our apartment that's dusty. Layer of dust = of no use to me. Saw the movie last night and loved it. I've never laughed so hard at a grieving family.

Wes Anderson was sitting behind us in the theater. I resisted the urge to turn around afterwards and say, "I think The Life Aquatic could've really benefited from one of those things."

― lindseykai

This movie would have freaked me out pretty badly at age 7. Don't bring the kids unless you want them to watch a lobotomy or see a monster vomit corpses and skeletons.

This movie doesn't drag for a second. It has a little bit of everything. It isn't action-packed all the way through but neither is, say, Jaws. If you like characters and acting and plot, you won't get bored. I can't imagine I'll see a better movie in 2007.

― Hatch

great movie. i love how the grieving scene starts out pretty serious if melodramatic and then just gets more and more absurd until you realize with relief it's supposed to be funny!

― ryan

Hey, I saw this, it was kick the fuck ass!

My only real disappointment was when Gang-Du was chasing the beast (he on the bridge, it in the water) towards the Agent Yellow protest crowd, I wanted to see the creature fuck up a bunch of protestors like earlier in the movie; I loved the tragicomic vengeance sequence a lot, but it just felt so action front-loaded. Still I will absolutely watch this movie again and shit my pants over it all over again.

― nickalicious

Hey you guys! South Korea's THE HOST is getting a US release starting this weekend!

#59

The Host
Bong Joon-Ho
2006
South Korea
(305 points, 13 votes)

I find the pace hypnotic

lynch, cronenberg, or herzog movies can be slow in the same way

how high's the wackness going to place?

also, YES

XP

YESSSSSSSSSS

only film's I haven't seen so far are the korean ones; look interesting

i mean yeah 75 percent of miike's films* are set-pieces with surreal/wacky connective tissue between them, but audition's pacing is just masterful.

*of the ones i've seen, naturally.

also BOOOOOOOOO at the host placing so low.

The Host = better genre film than Sexy Beast

xxxxxp
Ok, haven't seen this, but the screen capture has sold it to me.

The Host is pretty cute.

Edward III OTM RE: Audition