The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

Borat was so much more bizarre than I'd been led to expect. Lots of the coverage over here was lol stupid Americans, but the anti-semitism stuff, especially the bit where Borat thinks their Jewish landlord and landlady have turned into rats, is authentically berserk. The reprehensible real-life treatment of the Romanian villagers only adds to the discomfort at the core of the movie. Also, nude wrestling.

I'm thinking Notre Musique is not going to rank here

i voted borat - audience at the theater was APESHIT and i personally could not breathe - srsly unlike any movie viewing experience ive had

WHAS and Borat are intermittently funny but both are pretty shitty as films/movies - neither is particularly well-made or warrants watching more than once

(sad to see them beat the waaaaay superior H&K)

Didn't vote for it, but I definitely would have liked Borat better if it had dropped the plot and just stuck to the skits a la Jackass, which I did vote for and almost put Jackass 2 in there as well (i think it's a better film, maybe Jackass 3-D will bring it to Avatar levels).

rescr**ned Borat lately and all we did was ffwd thru the plot dreck.

T/F? Chris Meloni was funnier in Wet Hot... than in Harold & Kumar. (hint: True)

Wait, wait. Harold & Kumar has Meloni in Funny Mode? Okay, between that fact and its placing on this poll, I'm officially interested in seeing H&K for the first time ever. And my ever-growing respect for and enjoyment of Neil Patrick Harris certainly helps.

that nude wrestling completely upended the movie imo

completely upended me with convulsive laughter!!

WHAS and Boratmost half-decent comedy films are intermittently funny but both are pretty shitty as films/movies - neither isnot many are particularly well-made or warrants watching more than once

Fixed.

Meloni is BIZARRE in Harold & Kumar. It's a whole different kind of character, but very funny indeed.

nude wrestling was one of the most insane things

i feel like i shouldve vote borat higher based on how much im enjoying remembering it rite now

I would argue, though, that WHAS certainly warrants multiple viewings, if only for all of the completely goofy stuff you might not catch the first time (i.e. the completely intentionally awful stunt shots on the motorcycle).

I wish I hadn't been told about every joke and shocking scene in Borat before I had seen it. would have made it a lot more enjoyable.

haven't seen WHAS yet, another for my list

intentionally awful stunt shots on the motorcycle

See, that's what's missing from Spielberg's magnum opus

Most of the time when comedians go "too far" it's pretty calculated and the targets are obvious, but the wrestling and rat scenes both have an air of (seemingly) genuine hysteria and strangeness.

whas

1 good thing: hilarious through and through.
1 bad thing: doesnt go on forever

borat

1 good thing: consistent hearty lols
1 bad thing: makes me feel pretty bad for laughing--not really sure all the liberal rationalizations hold up

1 bad thing: doesnt go on forever

<3

but I definitely would have liked Borat better if it had dropped the plot and just stuck to the skits a la Jackass

shasta otm -- the movie really grinds to a halt when they get sidetracked by the pam anderson nonsense. the nude wrestling also was one of the worst part of the movie, at least up until the part where they run through the convention naked waving the dildo. it was a cheap shock gag that borat proved it could be way above. (and anyway it made more sense in the context of 'bruno' even tho it was equally as unfunny)

You could be onto something, Morbs...

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Audition made me squirm like I hadn't since I was 12. I didn't even know I could experience that emotion anymore.

― less-than three's Christiane F.

Audition: His best. I don't care if he never tops it, it's a bit like complaining Coppola never topped The Godfather.

- Edward III

Look at Audition, the subtle shifts in dynamics, the amazing range of lighting set-ups, framing devices, etc. (I think this one took a whopping 3 weeks to film.)

― Ian G

I could barely watch the last ten minutes, there's just no way to prepare for something like that...

- helpsuit

#61

Audition
Takashi Miike
2000
Japan
(296 points, 14 votes, 1 first place)

that nude wrestling completely upended the movie imo

― Dan S, Friday, February 5, 2010 1:07 PM (4 minutes ago)

this scene was "borrowed"* pretty much from Jackass 2 in which guest-skit-director John Waters has Wee Man on a bed and gets a 400 pound naked woman to belly flop on him, then Waters pretends he's unhappy with the take, then on the next take (unknown to Wee Man) he substitutes the equally rotund Preston Lacy for the woman to do the same belly flop.

*Jackass 2 only came out a couple months before Borat iirc, not sure this was intentional or not.

takashi miike

feeling bad abt laughing is the quality that elevates borat to rarefied realms

I think the wrestling scene in "Borat" is so effective (and it completely reduced the theater I was in to hysterics) because it's completely gratuitous and unexpected - whereas in "Bruno" it seems like most of the movie is deliberately trying to one-up that scene, and it ends up feeling calculated and somewhat dutiful.

I never understood the love for Audition (and Miike in general)...

xpost
^^interesting...didn't see Jackass 2

Audition is a film I got for free years ago and have never watched. I still don't know if I ever will. (Similar story- got Anti-Christ for free this week, am wondering if Gainsbourg's WSness is enough make me sit through it.)

as an ultra-confirmed horror stan, im just going to out myself here right now and say that i do not get the appeal of audition (and actually cant get into most miike stuff). happy for people that do tho xxxxpost

that nude wrestling completely upended the movie imo

― Dan S, Friday, February 5, 2010 1:07 PM (4 minutes ago)

this scene was "borrowed"* pretty much from Jackass 2 in which guest-skit-director John Waters has Wee Man on a bed and gets a 400 pound naked woman to belly flop on him, then Waters pretends he's unhappy with the take, then on the next take (unknown to Wee Man) he substitutes the equally rotund Preston Lacy for the woman to do the same belly flop.

*Jackass 2 only came out a couple months before Borat iirc, not sure this was intentional or not.

― ┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Friday, February 5, 2010 4:15 PM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

did u know if u prefer jackass 2 to jackass 1 it means u r gay

didnt realize audition was 90s/on the list prob wouldve voted - bird people of china is way better tho

the nude wrestling in borat is so effective and unstoppable because it is just honest and goofy and straightforward. you've been thru a whole movie of queasy, second-guessed, discomforting laughs, and at the end it's just hey! naked guys! running around! fighting! it's like a breath of fresh air.

not a fan of remakes, but a shot-for-shot remake of audition with zooey deschanel and michael cera would be spitefully great.

borat was my #1 btw - seeing it in theaters was easily my favorite film experience of the 00s

I think Miike Takashi deliberately made the first half of Audition boring to sucker everyone into thinking it'd end normally.

Have seen and liked a few Miike things, but judged myself way too squeamish for this. (and I liked Ichi the Killer, but probably won't ever watch that again)

wondering if that will be the top horror qua horror placing

actually wait would guess that the ring might still place

Weird, i just stepped away from the computer to talk to my friend on the phone, and he spent a chunk of the conversation explaining who Miike was.

and no, inland empire (as much as i love it) doesnt count

it depends how many ppl Eric and I persuaded to watch Pulse

xxxxp

Fingers crossed for Let the Right One In for highest horror placement.

Does Pan's Labyrinth count as horror?

I've never enjoyed Audition more than when I rented it to watch with my girlfriend. She was not familiar with it & I did not tell her it was a horror film & really enjoyed the process of watching her watch it, esp. around the halfway point when the bottom just falls out from under it (around the scene w/ the ringing telephone & unidentified man in bag). Even tho this scared the bejeezus out of her in the short term, she was ultimately glad she knew nothing about it going in & I really wish I could say the same for when I originally saw it.

it depends how many ppl Eric and I persuaded to watch Pulse

xxxxp

― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Friday, February 5, 2010 9:23 PM (1 minute ago)

fucking LOVE this movie, didnt know you dudes were into it. a high placement would be fantastic, and it deserves it.

hey omar you mind posting text of the list so far or did you just do it, thread is too long : /

This is my favourite thread in weeks

oh, one more thought on Todd Haynes' version of Sirk:
nearly all the actors are better.

that nude wrestling completely upended the movie imo

― Dan S, Friday, February 5, 2010 1:07 PM (4 minutes ago)

this scene was "borrowed"* pretty much from Jackass 2 in which guest-skit-director John Waters has Wee Man on a bed and gets a 400 pound naked woman to belly flop on him, then Waters pretends he's unhappy with the take, then on the next take (unknown to Wee Man) he substitutes the equally rotund Preston Lacy for the woman to do the same belly flop.

*Jackass 2 only came out a couple months before Borat iirc, not sure this was intentional or not.

― ┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Friday, February 5, 2010 4:15 PM (35 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

did u know if u prefer jackass 2 to jackass 1 it means u r gay
--ice cr?m