The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

maybe i'm overestimating the kiarostami bloc. it helps that it's his only movie in contention

Pretty sure The Wind Will Carry Us wasn't released in Europe (and certainly America) til 2000. So it counts.

btw, You the Living > Songs from the Second Floor

i think that today, for each movie, everyone should post 1 thing they liked about it, and 1 thing they disliked!!!!

― max, 05 February 2010 12:24 (1 minute ago)

real talk

The Lives of Others - forget the stasi, we had thatcher, so much worse

waht

― Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, February 5, 2010 12:07 PM (31 minutes ago) Bookmark

a lil english joke. it's a commonplace that thatcher RUINED EVERYTHING.

without her we'd have a booming coal industry and other great things.

waht a bitch

best supporting actress in hunger

ireland's coal industry hadn't even really gotten off the ground when she invaded in 1603 ;_;

I'm taking up Max's challenge. Let's see what today's selections bring.

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Pretty sure The Wind Will Carry Us wasn't released in Europe (and certainly America) til 2000. So it counts.

ah ok. missed that on the noms list. everything online about it says '99 so i had it mentally as a '90s movie. (those of us who mostly see these things on video don't pay attention to niceties like theatrical releases.)

Alfred, you mentioned Musil -- how is Young Torless?

Very much worth a read – and short!

those of us who mostly see these things on video

This got me wondering...

Of the 307 movies from last decade that I've seen, the ratio is about 2:1 cinema to video (201 to 106). On my ballot, however, it's 37 to 3. This can be explained partially by the fact that the movies I see in the theater are the ones I'm most excited by and most strongly suspect that I'll be into (and I'm often right). However, I think I'm also more likely to feel more intensely about a movie when I see it on the big screen, because of that sense of immersiveness that can't quite be replicated at home. I wonder, for instance, if one of those three movies I've only seen on video would've landed higher on my list if I'd been able to appreciate its lush cinematography in the theater.

definitely i think seeing something in a theater makes a big difference, and there are a lot of things on my ballot i wish i'd seen on a big screen. but looking at what i actually voted for, it's not determinative for me. like, the only weerasethakul movie i've seen in the theater (tropical malady) wasn't one of the two of his that i voted for. i did see 6 of my top 10 in theaters, but i also saw 5 of my 31-40 in theaters, so i ranked lots of video-viewings ahead of lots of big-screen viewings.

and i'm sympathetic to the "you ain't seen it if you ain't seen it in a theater" line, but it's just been less and less of an option for me this past decade, with having kids and working evening shifts. i will admit to a gross consumerist fantasy of having a really ginormous tv sometime in the future.

(overall i only saw 16 things on my ballot in a theater.)

Yeah, I've never had a particularly great TV, so that probably exacerbates the difference for me.

hmm. i don't think i've voted for anything i've _only_ seen in a cinema, but many of them i did see first in a cinema.

a gross consumerist fantasy of having a really ginormous tv

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i saw most of my picks on dvd, probably. even master and commander. wd love to see that properly but idk had other stuff going on. one of my big regrets of the 00s is seeing so many mediocre films in the cinema.

the movies i'll want to catch in the cinema are usually of a completely different type than those i will watch on dvd- if something's drama/dialogue intense then i'll probably wait to catch it where there are no disgusting savages, but if part of the attraction is going to be aesthetic/visual then i'll make more of an effort to catch it on the big screen.

Since I started writing about film semi-regularly 3 years ago, I have seen more awful films on the big screen than I'd ever imagined existed. Worse than the dhit in this poll. Plus I had to see everything halfway good that opened in NYC, at least til the recession came for me.

Kinda depressed that FX movies are what ppl think of re "visual appeal."

i meant, increasingly...

wasn't necessarily referring to FX though.

and sometimes, you just want to go to 'the movies' as an event, and maybe not for most of you but where i'm living you're not gonna get a great selection of high movie art or w/e

I understand

i haven't seen a major animated 'kids' movie since Aladdin, and i ain't starting now. (and yes, i've never seen the Lion King)

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You are really, really doing yourself a disservice by lumping all the Pixar films in with Disney-type animated 'kids' movies. But, hey, to each his own.

― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, February 4, 2010 11:26 PM

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jon, i have been told this many times, and believe that you and many others are right. still, the fervor with which people tell me about HOW MUCH THEY LOVE WALL-E makes me want to vomit, and also makes me never want to see any of the films that come out of that same pit.

― arch-enemy Gay Cowboy Monster (the table is the table),

As long as you recognize that this is your problem and not any movie's problem, then it guess it's all cool.

hmm. i don't think i've voted for anything i've _only_ seen in a cinema, but many of them i did see first in a cinema.

Yes, I should've clarified: I meant I'd seen 37/40 first in a cinema. Although only about 7 of those 37 have I subsequently rewatched on video.

OMG, I LOVE WALL-E SO MUCH!

And don't particularly think much of the rest of Pixar's '00s output.

^zactly how i feel. it was the only pixar to make my list

Pixar made like 5 of the best movies of the decade, aimed at kids or not, and you guys are tripping. Who the fuck cares who it is aimed at if you enjoy it?

yo imma let u finish but pixars the greatest of all time~

idk, im not tryna hate. i saw several of them, thought most were ok w/e

I would still disagree if you said "best major-studio movies," but that's like saying Norman Rockwell made 5 of the best paintings of the '30s. (And I like Norman Rockwell and Pixar OK.)

xp

I've seen 34 out of the 40 movies I voted in cinema, but I haven't owned a video or a telly since 2001, so that obviously affects the results. Out of those 34 movies I've seen 28 only in cinema. I watch videos with friends at their homes, and the stuff we watch on those occasions tend to be hangover day feel-good movies, most of which didn't make my list. (Though some of them did, for example Role Models and Blades of Glory.)

There were only 4 movies on my ballot I haven't seen twice. I guess I felt like I couldn't rate movies as highly if I'd only bothered/had a chance to see them once.

omg up is so much better than wall-e WAKE UP AMERICA

^not fond of "Hello Dolly"

i dont even understand that zing

put on your Sunday clothes

btw, You the Living > Songs from the Second Floor

― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Friday, February 5, 2010 7:25 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

no offense morbs but u know this is BS. i love both but as my buddy adam quipped, you the living is kind of "songs from the second tier."

it was funnier, therefore better.

also I barely remember any of Sft2F.

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SEE WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GET OLD

I'm a little shocked to realize that I saw over half of the movies on my ballot in the theater, given the fact that it feels like I hardly ever see movies in the theater anymore (;_;).

does anyone have omar little's #, can u just call him and wake him up and we can move on to the next 15

I see almost all movies at home via netflix. Theaters are great experiences, but holy crap the audience usually sucks. Talking, kicking my seat, babies crying. It's horrible.

25/40 in the theater, luv going to the movies

Damn, why did I not vote? I'd forgotten that I spent five years going to the cinema loads, I could easily have compiled a decent ballot.

too busy organising the book poll in fairness to you

s1ocki has omar's number, from before