The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

tbh so far this thread has had pretty innocuous whining and sexism/racism accusing as far as ilx poll threads go...

if you want to count accusations of being terrible people and yuppie dbags as innocuous whining ...

I most certainly do

Lol!

And whoever commented upon the concentrated amount of character building & plot in 90 minutes was totally OTM. More movies should aspire to this.

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tbh so far this thread has had pretty innocuous whining and sexism/racism accusing as far as ilx poll threads go...

yeah just wait til we get into the top 50. this is all just claws-sharpening at the moment. pacing around the cage. swiping at the cubs. morbz growling now and again. the fun stuff won't even start until next week.

ftr, I find it completely adorable that hardass Morbs likes High Fidelity.

presumably the recent films at the top have been the subject of recent long clusterfucky threads and those who participated in those threads wouldn't feel the need to reiterate them?

one would hope, and yet

I don't think anyone said "fuck this movie" after Harold and Kumar, which imo, is the best movie listed so far. But that reaction is totally fair to most of these movies, which for the most part are pretty divisive so far. I voted for Amelie, for example, but I knew even when I was putting my ballot together, that if it placed, a lot of people weren't going to be very happy about it. Those who voted for stuff like Almost Famous and Sideways and Napolean Dynamite similarly can't exactly be surprised that most of the other commenters not only didn't like those movies, but hated them.

actually enjoying all the arguing and bitchiness, it's fun to read all the arguments pro and con each of these warhorses. besides, everyone loves my top movie (together)

most of the other commenters

a few snarky people

posters to this thread are either snarky people, terrible people, or yuppie dbags

a few other movies that didn't generate too much negativity: Capturing the Friedmans, Tropical Malady, Memories of Murder, The Squid and The Whale...

Yeah, I was expecting more indie belly-aching over The Squid and The Whale, tbh.

I didn't see it, but I heard it was horrible.

I hated it, but I didn't want to explain myself.

on the subject of films, yeah i kind of delight in being bitchy/terrible sometimes..

i have not seen 'tropical malady' but it is on my very long list of things to see, i wonder if i'd appreciate 'syndromes and a century' more, that way? not that i disliked it (i voted for it too), but i expected.. something really stunning i guess, based on what all i'd read about him? though there were some moments i thought were quite cool.

people's opinions on "joe" are sort of all over the map, it's hard to say. i voted "blissfully yours" and "syndromes" both pretty high, and "tropical malady" didn't make my list at all, but that's really too reductive, they all inform each other. he's not a director who's going to immediately smack you upside the head, what he does is weirder and subtler than that. it takes time to sink in how really radical his filmmaking is, he's trying to invent some kind of new form of narrative and i don't know if he's there yet but in that sense syndromes is his most advanced attempt. it pulls together things from all of his other movies. so seeing them might affect how you see it.

also i hate calling him joe, i think weerasethakul is fun to say.

i'm skeptical about inventing a very new form of narrative, how so?

er i'm not saying you're wrong, i really do wonder what it is i didn't see..

Seriously, can a single result be announced without someone saying "Fuck this movie" immediately afterward? Fuck y'all.

hopefully not? generally i really like the disgruntled bitching not really sure "well, i didnt care for it but i sympathize with your perspective" is what i want outta the internet. and i mean some of the discussions have been interesting and some have been... less so but idk what else u can expect. and ppl have been p vocal abt defending their choices if yr only seeing the negative comments in the back and forth than thats on u imo

i'm skeptical about inventing a very new form of narrative, how so?

the relationships between sound and image, dialogue and plot, are more abstract than they seem, for one thing. his movies have a tendency to seem naturalistic until suddenly they don't and you wonder where they turned off the road, but the thing is that there's nothing really naturalistic going on at all. the scenes that seem quotidian are really pretty symbolically loaded, they just don't look like it until you go back to them in light of what comes later.

Also, In the Loop making this list is just really really weird.

i have no idea why u think this eric!

sure sure it's a "britishes thing" but only up to a point. shit is oscar-nominated! it won glowing reviews in sight and sound and was subject of a major feature article in canada's famous cinema scope magazine!

I totally forgot about In the Loop, so I didn't vote for it. I would have if I'd remembered about it, it had the sort of political insight you rarely see in a movie, plus it was funny as hell.

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Agreed, didn't really understand that comment. I remember checking out the reviews when it came out in the US and although it wasn't wall to wall press there was plenty of coverage, Iannucci and Capaldi doing the circuit. I really expected ITL to be higher, it's not like it's a piece of crap like Sex Lives of the Potato Men or Magicians.

I kinda really want to see this movie, actually - In the Loop, though Sex Lives of the Potato Men sounds good, if it's actually about men that are really potatoes and when they exhibit degraded hygiene, they grow eyes and tendrils, much to the horror of their partners.

So far I'm only 1/30 and pretty surprised to find that it's All the Real Girls.

Though it's sad to see AF and HiFidelity even placing, I'm still v.v. proud of y'all for keeping Amelie so low on the list. I was expecting it to be top 10.

Heavy Britishes element to these results so far.

― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, February 5, 2010 1:49 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

How so? In The Loop (which as nrq says, really isn't that surprising)? If britishes voted, they're not posting on this thread and I don't remember seeing many of them on the noms thread either.

I voted, just this thread is tl;dr.

I think I voted for Finding Nemo. Apart from Monsters Inc., which I like marginally less for no particular reason, it's the only Pixar that I've seen that doesn't go off the rails in some frustrating way. And I'm not going to say it's a profound film or something, but I do like the message.

Have voted for H&K go to white castle, nemo and ITL so far, I think.

I had Master and Commander at like 3 or 4 in my Ballot. Love love love it. So atmospheric and a completely insane structureless plot that broke nabisco.

I think the Fellowship was my token LOTR vote.

Squid and the Whale was too close to home for me. I'm sure it's good but I just couldn't enjoy it.

caek u just summed up my feelings about the 2 best Pixar movies.

I love Master & Commander too - it's so odd in pretty much every way compared to every other film I've seen that even stuff that'd normally be a criticism (e.g. the complete absence of women) becomes another weird virtue.

Where can I find proof of this broken Nabisco brain?

master and commander: oh how I enjoyed this movie

not a whole lot of women in the royal navy back then

xp i think that actually spilled over into some other threads, too, but i can't remember which

the alternative is 1) they meet hot island chick or 2) flashbacks of the girl they left behind. prefer the way they did it, ie NO GURLS.

girls and parrots in the trading scene iirc

If anything, expected to see M&C come a little higher. Seems like ILX canon.

So I only have three movies placing so far (Napoleon, High Fidelity, and 28 Days), with another two that were chopped off the bottom of my ballot (25th Hour and Minority Report). And I think I'm up to three from my ballot which I've decided don't stand a chance of placing at this point and which I feel safe spoilerizing (The Company, Sleeping Dogs Lie, and Hot Rod).

― SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, February 5, 2010 1:42 AM (8 hours ago) Bookmark

lol even i didn't vote for 'hot rod'. doubt more than five ilxors have seen it alas.

i voted for all three richard kelly films.

Can we have a moratorium on Almost Famous now btw? I think everyone's had their say.

Wasn't Citizen Ruth an HBO Original Movie? It had a verrrry limited theatrical release if it had one at all.

― SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Friday, February 5, 2010 4:51 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark

nah im p sure it was miramax, but they got spooked and basically dumped it.

"If britishes voted, they're not posting on this thread"

Really? That's a weird (and false) generalisation

obviously there are a few, but i'm just saying this list so far and this thread are not very british, which a couple of people have claimed.

Oh, I see. You're right - not an especially British thread, but that's because there haven't been that many great British films this decade - I only voted for two.

Checked out the Master & Commander thread to see nabisco's alleged brainrong and read this:

"(Fox Chairman Tom) Rothman wooed (Weir) by laying a mock captain's sword on his lap and asking him to take command of the HMS Surprise."

That's an heroically cheesy negotiating tactic which I intend to use myself at the earliest opportunity.

Morvern Callar - actually british, but kinda international hipster
The Piano Teacher - none less british
Dogville - paul bettany is in this. kidman is aussie, which is kinda british when u think abt it.
Happy-Go-Lucky - regrettably british, but i sweartagod, americans like this more than us
High Fidelity - p british really
Capturing the Friedmans - as american as it gets
Napoleon Dynamite - nothing to do with us
Sideways - fairly british
Tropical Malady - nup
Talk to Her - nooo
Together - reasonably british
The Lives of Others - forget the stasi, we had thatcher, so much worse
Memories of Murder - no
Minority Report - samantha morton is british, and spielberg leans that way imo
All the Real Girls - if only zooey were british
Almost Famous - on your own with this one
Finding Nemo - we don't animate
Harold and Kumar Go To White Castle - wish this were british. guess the battleshits chicks are.
Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World - as british as it gets
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring - new zealander garbage
The Diving Bell and the Butterfly - schnabel could only be american
Team America: World Police - ???
Days Later - nothing to be ashamed of
The Squid and the Whale - honorary british
In the Loop - "we burnt this tight-arsed city to the ground in 1814"
Y Tu Mama Tambien - quite enough of that
In Bruges - more british than not
The Triplets of Belleville - wouldn't have thought so
Amélie - no
The 25th Hour - gtfo this film sucks