The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

Wasn't Citizen Ruth an HBO Original Movie? It had a verrrry limited theatrical release if it had one at all.

dunno. i definitely didn't see it til it came out on video, and i doubt it played anywhere around me (i was in tennessee). i'm sure it had arthouse runs in the big markets, but i don't know beyond that.

The other two in my top ten that I am confident will not make it are Ten and The World.

i voted for both, but if any jia makes it it'll be platform or still life. i think ten could, but maybe i'm overestimating the kiarostami bloc. it helps that it's his only movie in contention, so there won't be the vote-splitting that'll hurt jia and tsai and others.

and speaking of iran i really meant to vote for the circle too. and maybe a time for drunken horses. i think i need to redo my ballot...

so i didn't vote because i didn't have time and hate polls, but love the discussion. the list thus far has provided me with four films i've never seen, as well as one i need to re-watch, which i might buy (team america). but just a quick commentary on some others here:

99. The Piano Teacher (208 pts, 9 votes) = I am a stan for Haneke, but believe this to be one of his weakest pieces of work. was Cache on the list? god help us if that isn't in the top 50, tho i doubt it will be.

96. High Fidelity (214 pts, 10 votes) = ruined a completely serviceable, poppy novel. jack black makes me want to vomit, hated this fuckin movie.

95. Capturing the Friedmans (215 pts, 13 votes, 1 first) = having seen 'The Jaundiced Eye' recently, i've thought about how stomach-turned and empty this made me feel. really quite something.

94. Napoleon Dynamite (215.5 pts, 10 votes) = fuck this fuckin movie.

89. The Lives of Others (221 pts, 12 votes, 1 first) = though yes, the story is completely implausible, Ulrich Muhe (RIP) is so FUCKING GOOD that i forgive the story its sins.

85. Almost Famous (225 pts, 11 votes, 1 first) = i sometimes feel like i'm the only person alive who has never been able to get through this. it gives me total tard tingles.

84. Finding Nemo (226.5 pts, 13 votes) = i haven't seen a major animated 'kids' movie since Aladdin, and i ain't starting now. (and yes, i've never seen the Lion King).

73. The Triplets of Belleville (253 pts, 10 votes) = saw this again recently when i was drunk, and found it infinitely more charming and subversive than i did when it first came out. great.

big ups for Tropical Malady being on the list, would have never heard of it otherwise. top of the netflix queue— seems right up my alley.

i haven't seen a major animated 'kids' movie since Aladdin, and i ain't starting now. (and yes, i've never seen the Lion King)

You are really, really doing yourself a disservice by lumping all the Pixar films in with Disney-type animated 'kids' movies. But, hey, to each his own.

I always over-estimate the Kiarostami bloc.

Platform definitely should have a better chance of getting in at this point. I voted for it, just not in my top ten.

The Circle is a great film indeed. I already regret my ballot, especially 21-40.

can't believe the wind will carry us was over a decade ago, just had to look it up

(many xposts, but rosenbaum's dissent on 'citizen ruth' is pretty well argued and flagged payne's moralistic misanthropy early on, but i think hugely undersells how funny the movie is.)

big xpost to daria

This Recording has some good feministy film writing. i think its molly lambert who writes most of it, though she might not be as contrarian as you're looking for

cool, thanks.

btw, 'the circle' is the iranian film right? that's what i meant to vote for, now i am worried there's another film called that

you are correct, daria

jon, i have been told this many times, and believe that you and many others are right. still, the fervor with which people tell me about HOW MUCH THEY LOVE WALL-E makes me want to vomit, and also makes me never want to see any of the films that come out of that same pit.

That's kind of weird.

Ha ha. Sorry. No judgments, bruv.

xp table - I actually really liked Wall-e, and I'm generally not fond of the Pixar stuff - a little too precious and cute - and Disney I just can't stomach whatsoever.

Most annoying thread ever.

I mean.. more whining please.

Seriously, can a single result be announced without someone saying "Fuck this movie" immediately afterward? Fuck y'all.

Just watched "Together" for the first time - great film!

tbh so far this thread has had pretty innocuous whining and sexism/racism accusing as far as ilx poll threads go...

if you want to count accusations of being terrible people and yuppie dbags as innocuous whining ...

I most certainly do

Lol!

And whoever commented upon the concentrated amount of character building & plot in 90 minutes was totally OTM. More movies should aspire to this.

xxxx-post to myself

tbh so far this thread has had pretty innocuous whining and sexism/racism accusing as far as ilx poll threads go...

yeah just wait til we get into the top 50. this is all just claws-sharpening at the moment. pacing around the cage. swiping at the cubs. morbz growling now and again. the fun stuff won't even start until next week.

ftr, I find it completely adorable that hardass Morbs likes High Fidelity.

presumably the recent films at the top have been the subject of recent long clusterfucky threads and those who participated in those threads wouldn't feel the need to reiterate them?

one would hope, and yet

I don't think anyone said "fuck this movie" after Harold and Kumar, which imo, is the best movie listed so far. But that reaction is totally fair to most of these movies, which for the most part are pretty divisive so far. I voted for Amelie, for example, but I knew even when I was putting my ballot together, that if it placed, a lot of people weren't going to be very happy about it. Those who voted for stuff like Almost Famous and Sideways and Napolean Dynamite similarly can't exactly be surprised that most of the other commenters not only didn't like those movies, but hated them.

actually enjoying all the arguing and bitchiness, it's fun to read all the arguments pro and con each of these warhorses. besides, everyone loves my top movie (together)

most of the other commenters

a few snarky people

posters to this thread are either snarky people, terrible people, or yuppie dbags

a few other movies that didn't generate too much negativity: Capturing the Friedmans, Tropical Malady, Memories of Murder, The Squid and The Whale...

Yeah, I was expecting more indie belly-aching over The Squid and The Whale, tbh.

I didn't see it, but I heard it was horrible.

I hated it, but I didn't want to explain myself.

on the subject of films, yeah i kind of delight in being bitchy/terrible sometimes..

i have not seen 'tropical malady' but it is on my very long list of things to see, i wonder if i'd appreciate 'syndromes and a century' more, that way? not that i disliked it (i voted for it too), but i expected.. something really stunning i guess, based on what all i'd read about him? though there were some moments i thought were quite cool.

people's opinions on "joe" are sort of all over the map, it's hard to say. i voted "blissfully yours" and "syndromes" both pretty high, and "tropical malady" didn't make my list at all, but that's really too reductive, they all inform each other. he's not a director who's going to immediately smack you upside the head, what he does is weirder and subtler than that. it takes time to sink in how really radical his filmmaking is, he's trying to invent some kind of new form of narrative and i don't know if he's there yet but in that sense syndromes is his most advanced attempt. it pulls together things from all of his other movies. so seeing them might affect how you see it.

also i hate calling him joe, i think weerasethakul is fun to say.

i'm skeptical about inventing a very new form of narrative, how so?

er i'm not saying you're wrong, i really do wonder what it is i didn't see..

Seriously, can a single result be announced without someone saying "Fuck this movie" immediately afterward? Fuck y'all.

hopefully not? generally i really like the disgruntled bitching not really sure "well, i didnt care for it but i sympathize with your perspective" is what i want outta the internet. and i mean some of the discussions have been interesting and some have been... less so but idk what else u can expect. and ppl have been p vocal abt defending their choices if yr only seeing the negative comments in the back and forth than thats on u imo

i'm skeptical about inventing a very new form of narrative, how so?

the relationships between sound and image, dialogue and plot, are more abstract than they seem, for one thing. his movies have a tendency to seem naturalistic until suddenly they don't and you wonder where they turned off the road, but the thing is that there's nothing really naturalistic going on at all. the scenes that seem quotidian are really pretty symbolically loaded, they just don't look like it until you go back to them in light of what comes later.

Also, In the Loop making this list is just really really weird.

i have no idea why u think this eric!

sure sure it's a "britishes thing" but only up to a point. shit is oscar-nominated! it won glowing reviews in sight and sound and was subject of a major feature article in canada's famous cinema scope magazine!

I totally forgot about In the Loop, so I didn't vote for it. I would have if I'd remembered about it, it had the sort of political insight you rarely see in a movie, plus it was funny as hell.

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Agreed, didn't really understand that comment. I remember checking out the reviews when it came out in the US and although it wasn't wall to wall press there was plenty of coverage, Iannucci and Capaldi doing the circuit. I really expected ITL to be higher, it's not like it's a piece of crap like Sex Lives of the Potato Men or Magicians.

I kinda really want to see this movie, actually - In the Loop, though Sex Lives of the Potato Men sounds good, if it's actually about men that are really potatoes and when they exhibit degraded hygiene, they grow eyes and tendrils, much to the horror of their partners.

So far I'm only 1/30 and pretty surprised to find that it's All the Real Girls.

Though it's sad to see AF and HiFidelity even placing, I'm still v.v. proud of y'all for keeping Amelie so low on the list. I was expecting it to be top 10.

Heavy Britishes element to these results so far.

― queen frostine (Eric H.), Friday, February 5, 2010 1:49 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

How so? In The Loop (which as nrq says, really isn't that surprising)? If britishes voted, they're not posting on this thread and I don't remember seeing many of them on the noms thread either.

I voted, just this thread is tl;dr.

I think I voted for Finding Nemo. Apart from Monsters Inc., which I like marginally less for no particular reason, it's the only Pixar that I've seen that doesn't go off the rails in some frustrating way. And I'm not going to say it's a profound film or something, but I do like the message.

Have voted for H&K go to white castle, nemo and ITL so far, I think.