The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

i prob wont be around to follow the roll out on this tomorrow so in advance, if inglorious basterds places you all suck

lol

considering how well Spaced did on BOTH the '00s and '90s TV polls (way too well imo) yeah sky's the limit for SOTD

tbh todays list has left me a little low on the haterade, mostly didnt see it or didnt care about it after i did

notable exceptions:

In Bruges is pretty fantastic and only keeled over on the last cut on my ballot, mostly because i kind of think the ending sucks. rest is great tho - also i had a similar film that im still hoping to see place, and i couldnt have both.

Amelie - didnt like it enough to vote for it, but i think the hate-pile is weird, my main problem is that it was the first in a brutal decline for the director, esp after city of lost children and delicatessen, which are both genius imo

Y Tu Mama Tambien - horrifying awful worthless piece of shit

theres no way any movie on the final list can be worse that 25th hour - not even amelie

apart from park chan-wook stuff, the only korean movie i can bring to mind from this decade is Take Care of My Cat, which i remember as really charming but don't actually remember too well. besides the green planet, am i missing lots of awesome stuff?

The results so far are surreal as in totally unexpected and mixed-up. The images from the movies look great, congrats omar.

err and bong joon-ho, obv, was the context this came up in xp

A Tale of Two Sisters is fantastic

I'm a little surprised there isn't more commentary about what people like about these movies instead of what they hate

Man Who Enjoys Thing Informed He Is Wrong

― quiz show flat-track bully (darraghmac), Friday, February 5, 2010 12:26 AM (1 hour ago)

lolz

Peter and Shakey (and others) thanks for taking the time to post your lists of thoughts about the movies you liked

Sometimes I worry that when I like movies that other people dislike, it's because I wasn't smart enough to dislike them, too.

(Btw, this never happens to me when it comes to music, because I recognize that my enjoyment of music exists almost entirely on an aesthetic level, and aesthetic disagreements are understandable. But movies are more complicated: all sorts of politics and meta-narratives get mixed up with aesthetic appreciation. With movies I can no longer say "oh, I don't pay attention to the lyrics.")

― Hoisin Murphy (jaymc), Friday, February 5, 2010 12:41 AM (1 hour ago)

I have friends who are passionate about movies, and it's through watching and discussing films with them that I better understand my own opinions, so I feel I have something to say. With music, on the other hand, NOBODY I know is much interested in the stuff talked about on ILM. It's an age thing, I think. I feel like I'm living in a vacuum, trying to discover stuff on my own. Since I don't have any conversations outside of ILM, my opinions aren't as well formed and I feel like I'm on much less solid footing arguing my points, even though music is more important to me.

happy-go lucky / harold n kumar / in bruges 4 me so far

So far for me (so mainstream it hurts)

High Fidelity
Minority Report
Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle
Almost Famous

Sometimes I worry that when I like movies that other people dislike, it's because I wasn't smart enough to dislike them, too.

Eh, I used to worry about this (more "not well-educated enough" than "not smart enough"), but whatevs. You like what you like because it resonates with you on some level. That should be enough. Life's too short to get all hung up on what other people think of your tastes. You're the one who has to live with those tastes, so they might as well suit you.

That said, my real favorite movie of the decade might be that one YouTube clip with the baby laughing hysterically. That thing has brightened my day so many times.

1/30, Tropical Malady. Not a particularly passionate vote, just saw it recently and I'm usually a sucker for films with a really palpable sense of place. Only other film to show up that I really like is Triplets of Belleville, but I don't remember it that well so I didn't vote for it. I want to see Happy-Go-Lucky and maybe In The Loop and maaaayyybe Master & Commander.

master & commander has a pretty palpable sense of boat (not joking)

Sometimes I worry that when I like movies that other people dislike, it's because I wasn't smart enough to dislike them, too.

no no no. it's because they don't understand them.

take southland tales, for example...

xpost yeah, i get that sense, that's what made me wanna see it despite also sensing blandness ahead

happy-go lucky is a good film imo, kinda surprised it doesn't seem to be for everyone. the blurb for it here on this list is gold.

So far for me (so mainstream it hurts)

High Fidelity
Minority Report
Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle
Almost Famous

― Johnny Fever

I feel like Johnny Jr. over here:

High Fidelity
Almost Famous
Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World
The Triplets of Belleville

Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle was the last movie cut from my ballot.

25th Hour - 25 points (no lol intended) #71
The Triplets of Belleville - 16 #73
Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle - 14 #83
Tropical Malady - 10 #92

voted for Morvern Callar (10th on my list), The Piano Teacher (32nd), Team America: World Police (23rd), 25th Hour (38th)

eh. tbh i was ambivalent about at least 1/3 of the films i actually voted for!

there's so much i haven't seen, and then over half the time when i watch something that's been well regarded by very smart critics, i don't like it. is there like an infuriating contrarian armond white kind of critic out there who is a feminist? or should i just do that myself.

you could try, but you'd probs have to like The Hottie and the Nottie or something

i mean one who is actually feminist, thus likely to be contrarian to what a lot of critics think, i don't mean being an anti-feminist contrarian. i figure the former would infuriate most people.

Be realistic: feminism is the opposite of cinema. It's a kiss kiss bang bang art, remember? But you should read Camille Paglia's booklet on The Birds regardless. She says interesting things about Suzanne Pleshette's character.

if you were the Armond White of feminist criticism, you'd find a way to make The Hottie and the Nottie a feminist treatise. xpost.

this film doesn't exist.

k i'm about to watch the rest of election which i hope shows up on this list, i love johnny to

Ok guys I just barely realized you all were not talking about this movie:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1e/Election_1999film.jpg

It seemed an improbable thing for everyone to be creaming over.

Really? That movie was one of the best-reviewed movies of '99.

Seconding recommendation of Paglia's Birds monograph.

Yeah, that Election is p good!

Voted for the Johnny To but would totally vote for ^^ in a 90s poll. xxp

I never saw it. It seems like the sort of movie that everyone would gently appreciate, not the kind that people would be talking about as gunning for top spot.

If this were a '90s poll, Payne's Election would probably be in my, like, top seven or something. It really is that good.

Goddam this thread is hard to keep up with. Currents stats: Of these, 4 were on my list; 8 were on my preliminary shortlist, but got cut; 9 I have never seen; Of the rest, there is nothing I outright loathe, tho Napolean Dynamite started at meh and has aged very badly & it's no accident I have thusfar avoided Team America: World Police. So far, I'm glad to see so many of my chopping-block picks make the list b/c I feel less guilty for xing them out!

yeah payne's election is not quite a "gently appreciate" sort of movie, it's a little different than that. (but much as i like it i'm with morbs on citizen ruth being his best. that movie really kinda surprised me that it even got made.)

Wasn't Citizen Ruth an HBO Original Movie? It had a verrrry limited theatrical release if it had one at all.

pts
Morvern Callar - 26
High Fidelity - 29
All The Real Girls - 2
Almost Famous - 21
Harold & Kumar - 9
Master & Commander - 4 - wish I'd given this one more points
Der Squid und Der Whale - 7
25th Hour - 40

I guess I need to watch the 1999 Election!

I am feeling less optimistic about Werckmeister Harmonies making it now. The other two in my top ten that I am confident will not make it are Ten and The World.

Also, I really messed my ballot up. I can't believe I didn't vote for Morvern Callar or a couple others. I am so pleased by the low placement of Almost Famous.

Wasn't Citizen Ruth an HBO Original Movie? It had a verrrry limited theatrical release if it had one at all.

dunno. i definitely didn't see it til it came out on video, and i doubt it played anywhere around me (i was in tennessee). i'm sure it had arthouse runs in the big markets, but i don't know beyond that.

The other two in my top ten that I am confident will not make it are Ten and The World.

i voted for both, but if any jia makes it it'll be platform or still life. i think ten could, but maybe i'm overestimating the kiarostami bloc. it helps that it's his only movie in contention, so there won't be the vote-splitting that'll hurt jia and tsai and others.

and speaking of iran i really meant to vote for the circle too. and maybe a time for drunken horses. i think i need to redo my ballot...

so i didn't vote because i didn't have time and hate polls, but love the discussion. the list thus far has provided me with four films i've never seen, as well as one i need to re-watch, which i might buy (team america). but just a quick commentary on some others here:

99. The Piano Teacher (208 pts, 9 votes) = I am a stan for Haneke, but believe this to be one of his weakest pieces of work. was Cache on the list? god help us if that isn't in the top 50, tho i doubt it will be.

96. High Fidelity (214 pts, 10 votes) = ruined a completely serviceable, poppy novel. jack black makes me want to vomit, hated this fuckin movie.

95. Capturing the Friedmans (215 pts, 13 votes, 1 first) = having seen 'The Jaundiced Eye' recently, i've thought about how stomach-turned and empty this made me feel. really quite something.

94. Napoleon Dynamite (215.5 pts, 10 votes) = fuck this fuckin movie.

89. The Lives of Others (221 pts, 12 votes, 1 first) = though yes, the story is completely implausible, Ulrich Muhe (RIP) is so FUCKING GOOD that i forgive the story its sins.

85. Almost Famous (225 pts, 11 votes, 1 first) = i sometimes feel like i'm the only person alive who has never been able to get through this. it gives me total tard tingles.

84. Finding Nemo (226.5 pts, 13 votes) = i haven't seen a major animated 'kids' movie since Aladdin, and i ain't starting now. (and yes, i've never seen the Lion King).

73. The Triplets of Belleville (253 pts, 10 votes) = saw this again recently when i was drunk, and found it infinitely more charming and subversive than i did when it first came out. great.

big ups for Tropical Malady being on the list, would have never heard of it otherwise. top of the netflix queue— seems right up my alley.

i haven't seen a major animated 'kids' movie since Aladdin, and i ain't starting now. (and yes, i've never seen the Lion King)

You are really, really doing yourself a disservice by lumping all the Pixar films in with Disney-type animated 'kids' movies. But, hey, to each his own.

I always over-estimate the Kiarostami bloc.

Platform definitely should have a better chance of getting in at this point. I voted for it, just not in my top ten.

The Circle is a great film indeed. I already regret my ballot, especially 21-40.

can't believe the wind will carry us was over a decade ago, just had to look it up

(many xposts, but rosenbaum's dissent on 'citizen ruth' is pretty well argued and flagged payne's moralistic misanthropy early on, but i think hugely undersells how funny the movie is.)

big xpost to daria

This Recording has some good feministy film writing. i think its molly lambert who writes most of it, though she might not be as contrarian as you're looking for

cool, thanks.

btw, 'the circle' is the iranian film right? that's what i meant to vote for, now i am worried there's another film called that