The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

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Amelie! Let the games begin!

Like Jules et Jim, this fucking thing defined Foreign Films for a generation.

Yeah, if you take the fame and rock n' roll out of Almost Famous, it's still just a story about a one-sided relationship. I don't see that as inherently sexist at all.

Amelie doesn't deserve a place on any best-of poll, but it's certainly not a bad film. Jacob pretty OTM

Very curious about what animations turn up. I didn't vote for Triplets in the end but it has some great touches and fantastic cartoon Glenn Gould

re: AF rock dude in not-falling-in-love-with-cheap-ho shockah

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finally we can start arguing about racism instead of sexism

xp Mordy: Then, I'm at a loss why the stereotypical female characters aren't obvious to you - I don't know. I don't feel like watching that movie again to better build my argument, and I'm ready to just agree to disagree on this point.

iatee: and why would that be? Why would rock dude be a dick and not-that-into her? Because she's a groupie, she's too easy, impure, etc. This is a really tired narrative trope.

director's cut of AF fleshed out the women more iirc

Any movie with hot chicks that indie boys are going to get a tent in their pants for is going to make it on the list. Also see ATRG.

Sometimes I worry that when I like movies that other people dislike, it's because I wasn't smart enough to dislike them, too.

When that happens I just worry I'm not pretentious enough to dislike them too.

ATRG?

more like cause he can and will sleep with lots of girls / whoever he wants cause he's a rock dude.

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(Btw, this never happens to me when it comes to music, because I recognize that my enjoyment of music exists almost entirely on an aesthetic level, and aesthetic disagreements are understandable. But movies are more complicated: all sorts of politics and meta-narratives get mixed up with aesthetic appreciation. With movies I can no longer say "oh, I don't pay attention to the lyrics.")

All the Real Girls xxp

end times signifier- there is a director's cut of Almost Famous

this poll would be great if i don't know... ONE of the films I voted for shows up eventually? Damn I feel like Morbs on Oscar night.

I have to apologise here: I voted Amelie pretty high. I really wasn't expecting to like it (too sappy! too twee!), and put off watching it for quite a while, but it hooked me, and it would have been dishonest of me not to vote for it.

i didn't vote for amelie (my fiancee did, she submitted a ballot despite not being an ilxor), but i have always liked it. i recognize that maybe how much you like it comes down to how twee you are or how tolerant you are of tweeness, and it's basically a ridiculous modern fantasy, but it's really well-made. pales greatly in comparison to its more realistic semi-counterpart 'happy-go-lucky' imo.

With movies I can no longer say "oh, I don't pay attention to the lyrics.")

"I just sit back with a j and soak in the images."

Amelie?! OK, what I was once construing as unpredictability is quickly becoming something else entirely.

xxp i disagree jaymc- just because a director puts something in there don't mean you have to pick it out from your viewing. essentially, 'i don't read the lyrics' is as valid an option for movies.

Like Jules et Jim, this fucking thing defined Foreign Films for a generation

^^ this
k i strongly dislike Amelie. a lot

jaymc, you just described my spot exactly. I'm much more forgiving with cinema than I am with music, because I honestly don't enjoy digging too deep in film and uncovering things that may not even be there.

I'm really glad I didn't see Amelie, and you all should be too, because I refrain from posting vitriolic rants about movies I've never seen.

best part of team america is the extended vomiting sequence - just extraordinary. man from window: "YOU GAVE UP ON LIFE, DIDN'T YA!?" friends and i still quote that at any opportunity

my take on the southpark dudes is basically ebert's iirc, that it's an empty nihilism

my 2nd vote targeted against the hater state :D

I also like Jules et Jim. I didn't realise this made me some sort of disgusting savage.

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Almost voted for Amelie because it was relatively high on the 2000-04 list that I made five years ago (I think #22 or so), but then I realized I don't remember a single thing about it.

ONE of the films I voted for shows up eventually? Damn I feel like Morbs on Oscar night.

Mullholland or Inland Empire will place, I'd be amazed if they don't

I love J+J! I meant that Amelie's that kind of touchstone.

xxpost I remember it puking creme brulee up right through the screen and all over my lap.

amelie, it was a bit personal at the time, i was in paris when that thing came out and it was a HUGE hit and all the american students i was friends with went to see it & were all <3<3<3<3. i was mystified (and annoyed) because it's like YOU LIVE HERE, PARIS IS NOT LIKE THIS, why do you enjoy this twee fantasy in which idealized paris = no immigrants?

Amelie is twee I can handle. Didn't vote for it, but not bad.

idealized paris = no immigrants

See, this is a bullshit reading of the film.

Amelie is the Notting Hill of Paris. Still fine though.

really tho, fantasy, idealized paris in the movie = basically no people at all, not just no immigrants

i disagree jaymc- just because a director puts something in there don't mean you have to pick it out from your viewing. essentially, 'i don't read the lyrics' is as valid an option for movies.

Sure, but it's more difficult to "tune out" elements of a movie. Maybe this has to do with how movies and music are used (or at least, how I use them): it's rare that I'm listening to music and not doing something else at the same time, whereas I'm pretty much always watching a movie in the dark with my eyes glued to the screen or TV set.

And, sorry, the expression on this face is the kind of horror no human being should mimic:

http://diaryofahalfandhalf.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/amelie.jpg

well, that's not the only thing, but the city is better and more interesting the way it is. just a general disgust on my part with idealized/twee versions of cities, when the real city is better and more interesting.

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if you love dogs you'll love this movie

― lauren

You must love "Must Love Dogs."

—Ned Raggett

Only vaguely interesting comedy of the '00s, next to "Eternal Sunshine."

—Dr. Morbius

Was there a wittier take on pet ownership this decade?

—Alfred, Lord Sotosyn

#71

Must Love Dogs
Gary David Goldberg
2005
USA
(240 points, 6 votes)

u_u all of this

and there are a lot of films where i recognize they have a style and are well crafted and of interest to a lot of people whose POV i respect, and yet my personal taste is, i hate them! (MULHOLLAND DRIVE)

I am entirely sympathetic to this. I love things like Mulholland Drive, but I can completely see why someone might hate. My ballot is probably quite heavy with stuff that I might never recommend to most people. Praise be to the beauty of subjectivity.

haha

oh and amelie has voice overs, doesn't it? HATE (99% of the time)

but then of course slocki has to get in there ahead of me and make it :)

it's rare that I'm listening to music and not doing something else at the same time, whereas I'm pretty much always watching a movie in the dark with my eyes glued to the screen or TV set.

it's rare that i'm watching a movie with my brain engaged!

wtf must love dogs america's sweethearts better place higher

well, that's not the only thing, but the city is better and more interesting the way it is. just a general disgust on my part with idealized/twee versions of cities, when the real city is better and more interesting.

this is true, except w/r/t montmartre, which actually much better in the movie version than it is irl