The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

if I could give negative points they would go to In Bruges

if you could explain that then i wouldn't have to ask why, but then that's probably why you didn't explain

― do you want to be happier? (whatever), Thursday, February 4, 2010 5:43 PM (39 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

because I thought it was boring and stupid

― bnw, Thursday, February 4, 2010 5:46 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark

Wow it's really hard for me to see how anyone could have found it boring or stupid. I thought it was really well done and, at times, really fucking funny.

that would be hilarious shakey mo collier, u should do it x-post

x-post Also, I had absolutely no opinion of Colin Farrell before seeing this but he was really great.

shakey did you really not get the dicks and assholes joke? srsly?

first we'll need some horribly anti-semitic stereotype stand-in for Stone, and some kind of white trash class clown outfit for Parker...

x-post

shakey did you really not get the dicks and assholes joke? srsly?

I got that it was a joke - I got that its also the kind of thing Parker/Stone actually believe on some level. Silence during the Bushco era speaks volumes imho.

"shakey did you really not get the dicks and assholes joke? srsly?"

It's a joke that its pretty easy to believe that Stone/Parker take srsly, frankly.

you mean like the horribly anti-semetic cousin of kyle character, and the jimbo character maybe

xpost no i meant the actual "dicks fuck assholes" joke

btw i am in no way a stone/parker stan and i think theyve done an amazing job of mostly getting unfunnier as time has gone on, but taking their racism at face value is kind dumb imo

While South Park co-creator Matt Stone is a registered Republican,[citation needed] co-creator Trey Parker is actually a registered member of the Libertarian Party.[2] Stone sums up their views with the comment "I hate conservatives, but I really fucking hate liberals."[3]

ah wikipedia lolz

"nice if you try to save the world on your own time, while you make your money acting in stupid propaganda blockbuster films that make violence look like it's way cool"

Trying to find a way not to be rude about that statement but come the fuck on. Being in the Bourne trilogy doesn't disbar you from criticising the invasion of Iraq. And how many propaganda blockbusters is Sean Penn in?

no i meant the actual "dicks fuck assholes" joke

gimme a little credit here...

oh, come on, i'm not saying they all are. but i don't really care about sean penn or what he thinks about anything.

this thread needs a sharp slap tbh

"Stone/Parker make funny movies from a libertarian POV."

How libertarian are they? They seem pretty moralistic and concerned about social responsibility a lot of the time.

"And how many propaganda blockbusters is Sean Penn in?"

How quickly people forget TAPS.

They seem pretty moralistic and concerned about social responsibility a lot of the time.

wow dude I dunno what show you're watching

Dan I'd actually like you to talk more about this because I found 100% the opposite - the remembered pleasure of LOTR was it's "scope and wonder" absolutely - it had a map! It had long bits that were kind of boring, in which you could think about interesting things, like what sort of kings the ringwraiths had been! The movies seemed to want you to feel excited basically the whole time, which for me is a feeling that never co-exists with wonder?

― Gravel Puzzleworth, Thursday, February 4, 2010 5:05 PM (31 minutes ago)

Pretty much agree with this 100%.

When In Bruges came up, I thought "yeah! finally, one from my ballot," and then looked at my ballot and realized I hadn't voted for it. In retrospect I wish I'd taken more time with my ballot instead of dashing it off in the first couple of days.

http://chrysanti.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/i-am-sam_full.jpg

need another movie so we can stop talking about south park conservatives.

xpost: ok not that movie.

most of SP/TAWP politics seem to be 'wise the fuck up everybody' cynicism about 95% of political players across the spectrum. or alternatively 'the big stuff is surprisingly unimportant compared to not being a dick day-to-day'

i have no idea what people expected a kim jong il puppet to sound like in a parker/stone production. seriously.

SAVE US, OMAR

xp - I am Sam rivalled Minority Report for huge quanitities of product placement

so glad I Am Sam made it to the Top 100!

it's funny, I saw In Bruges but I can't remember anything about it. does anybody else experience this occasionally?

most of SP/TAWP politics seem to be 'wise the fuck up everybody' cynicism about 95% of political players across the spectrum.

ai amu samu

xxp I experience it frequently.

seriously sean penn strikes me as one of those liberals who has views on politics with which i mostly agree, and also treats people like shit irl. not that there aren't plenty of liberals who are super nice, but then there are those who are working for good causes and yet, treat other people working for good causes.. like shit.

sorry for going on so much abt this, but yeah my personal experience would also tell me that a very high % of political players are kind of awful, and don't get why that is a problem.

Not with In Bruges though. I remember that movie too well sadly.

xp - I am Sam seriously made me wonder whether Hollywood chose to produce films about retarted people so that they could cram in more product placement without looking pandering and gratuitous.

daria did Sean Penn karate chop you in a bar or something

"I am Sam rivalled Minority Report for huge quanitities of product placement"

Double Team has my favorite movie product placement ever.

the wrong penn died imo

Yeah - Robert Penn Warren's death was a horrible tragedy.

i was thinking
http://thebsreport.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/penn.jpg

and William Penn - damn, he would have made Fast Times at Ridgemont High rival Citizen Kane in terms of bravura performances!

I'm glad Penn Jillete is dead.

There I said it.

^^^another libertarian asshole

(Don't expect anyone to slog through this, but...)

Reactions to what I've seen of the movies so far:

Capturing the Friedmans: Wasn't it the film's view that the son and father were probably innocent of this particular crime? (And that the father was probably guilty of others?) Love that it's subtle enough so that we disagree about that, bnw. (I thought the defense lawyer was lying to the camera.) I think it also has a lot to "say," between the lines, about how repression nourishes pedophilia. I left it off my ballot because its most compelling raw material (the homemade video) seemed a bit off center from what it was about.

The Piano Teacher: Worst piano teacher ever. Beautifully acted, but I rejected both the reality of this movie and what I've come to see as its category. A frigid, sadistic person rises to prominence in the instruction of music? And none of her students calls her on it? And the only halfway decent human being is the kid from the porn store who says, "I'm sorry"? Mental illnesses can be compelling in movies, but only if either the character or the illness speaks to something wider, like, I don't know, the world as we actually experience it, or our sympathy, or the pleasure of movies. The rape scene is horribly convincing, but I'm left wondering, why am I watching this? Another movie bravely telling us the world is shit and people are weak?

Dogville: Same theme (and more rape), but with the twist of attacking those who rationalize evil (our establishment intellectual) or put themselves above others by forgiving it (our Christ figure as condescending Christian, turned wrathful Dirty Harry), which is a lot more interesting and provocative. Tipsy, how are we not supposed to side emotionally with Nicole Kidman in the end? What do you think the montage of poor people under the credits meant? I took it as a parade of the potentially wicked. Again, how brave. As I said on another thread, it's like watching a movie made by Carrie or Travis Bickle.

But at least that's something I don't physically want to unwatch. Dogville is partly an attempt to explore how slavery could happen in the United States, how ostensibly conscientious people could be implicated in its evil, and how innocents might then be sacrificed to the hellfire that evil inevitably summons, like the children killed in a slave uprising. But a more honest fable would have shown truly innocent or sympathetic people being killed, where in Dogville, even the little kid who wants to be spanked is a jerk.

High Fidelity: Can't remember a millisecond of this thing I enjoyed at the time, but the "memorable quotes" page on imdb is cringe-inducing--John Cusack must go a long way. Morbius, I liked Martian Child (which deals well with the helplessness of some parents), Runaway Jury (enjoyably bad), and Grace Is Gone (interesting anti-Cusack).

Minority Report: Nothing but the eye-scan advertising thing sticks, but that was prophetic.

Sideways: Jaymc OTM. Great laughs from satiric sympathy rather than spite, with credible characters, relationships, situations all around leading to memorable reckonings, desserts, nudity. (First of two films I have voted for so far.)

Almost Famous: In which the kid listens to Lester Bangs's sound advice about not looking for validation from artists, in the best scene, then proceeds to ignore it, then makes a movie-long unwitting monument to his wrongness seeking validation from the audience.

Finding Nemo: The Ellen DeGeneres amnesiac has some funny moments, but even that becomes as grating as everything else: Albert Brooks's anxiousness, the surfer-dude turtles, the sharks-in-carnivore-AA conceit, the "isn't this funny?" music. It's not funny.

Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle: I liked both H&Ks, and I think the way they were kind of junkily made helps: It feels like anything can happen in this overlit raunchy-movie plane of reality. But they're still hit-and-miss.

Master and Commander: Best costume adventure with a great star, but I think the story got muddled by adapting too much into one movie.

The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring: I'm anti-war and anti-CG, so there's not a lot for me here.

The Diving Bell and the Butterfly: Darin LOL. The basic device--the camera as a single blinking eye--didn't work for me, mostly because that's not how eyes see, and I felt the character self-romanticized a bit. But I love my wife for loving this.

Team America: World Police: Can we all just agree that the sex scene belongs to the ages?

28 Days Later: Worst-case-scenario for humanity as persuasive as its speedy zombies, but yeah, eclipsed in both departments by better films IMO.

The Squid and the Whale: Best movie about neglect in a decade with competition (and plenty of bad ones), helped by Jeff Daniels and a great ending. (Second film I voted for.)

In Bruges: Wow is this bad. Just to take the scene I can find on YouTube, of Colin Farrell getting a date with the actress: He tells her it's his job to get past security, and she says, "You're a shoplifter?" And for this line to be funny, he would have to be irritated. But no, he chuckles and says, "Good joke," because this movie is really about how cool this guy is. Multiply that lameness by a whole movie and you get the idea. Plus fat jokes, stupid meta-action conceits, gruesome violence, etc. And I'm a sucker for both meta-action conceits and these particular actors.

All the Real Girls, The Lives of Others, Napoleon Dynamite: Couldn't get through the first 15 minutes of any of these, but will try again.

"And that the father was probably guilty of others?"

The view of the film was that the father was a pedophile. I don't believe there was any evidence that he actually molested any children, but I don't recall.

The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring: I'm anti-war and anti-CG, so there's not a lot for me here.

this is a fairly inexplicable (mis)reading of this film

Barbie doll sex wasn't really mind-blowing comedy, IMO

Man, I am the first to recognize that I can have horrible taste sometimes (perhaps often) and in no way do I consider myself an expert on film, but some of you ppl have unbelievably shitty taste in movies.

this

Napoleon Dynamite: Couldn't get through the first 15 minutes ... but will try again.

don't bother. an excruciatingly bad movie

you stupid stupid ppl

which movies did you think were shitty, E? Just curious, not trying to bait you or anything.