The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

ha for a number of particular/boring reasons of my college life i have read much of the work of, and am very familiar with the arguments surrounding martin mcdonagh in anglo-irish theater. so i kind of put off seeing 'in bruges' cos i felt like i 'got it' already.

the sex scenes in Y Tu Mama Tambien were very good mostly for the fact that they were almost entirely in long shot and/or unbroken takes.

― ryan

^this is v otm

Man people getting mighty worked up mighty quick = in bruges

Really didn't like In Bruges either. I'd probably rather watch Y Tu Mama Tambien again frankly.

Lots of girls squealed in horror when -- SPOILER -- Diego Luna and Gael Garcia Bernal finally tongued.

nothing ive voted 4 has shown up today iirc

Lots of girls squealed in horror when -- SPOILER -- Colin Farrell and Ralph Fiennes finally tongued.

Lots of girls squealed in horror when -- SPOILER -- Diego Luna and Gael Garcia Bernal finally tongued.

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lol move out of florida holmes, round my way there was barely a dry seat in the theater

Lots of JG Ballard fans squealed in horror when -- SPOILER -- James Spader and Elias Koteas finally tongued.

lol move out of florida holmes, round my way there was barely a dry seat in the theater

The second time I saw it the audience wet their chairs, yeah.

didn't know love liza was filmed in ur hometown ilx user gukbe O_O

I liked YTMT a lot, and it's not the kind of movie I'm generally interested in. It has a sense of openness and an optimism that's refreshing, and the characters' sweetness and petulance seem very real to me. The oblique narration and the sadness and awkwardness at the end are also perfect touches I think

How many ostensibly straight men stay friends after they've fucked each other?

Bros for life, dawg.

lol

I don't really understand ppl who can't make themselves watch the LOTR movies. I know they're lolfantasy and that I'm predisposed to that sort of thing but I really did think the did an excellent job of distilling 98% of what made the books so great and expressing that same sense of scope and wonder via film.

Dan I'd actually like you to talk more about this because I found 100% the opposite - the remembered pleasure of LOTR was it's "scope and wonder" absolutely - it had a map! It had long bits that were kind of boring, in which you could think about interesting things, like what sort of kings the ringwraiths had been! The movies seemed to want you to feel excited basically the whole time, which for me is a feeling that never co-exists with wonder?

In Bruges was surprisingly watchable.

i think only thing i've voted for showing up today was TEAM AMERICA.. which was not typical of anything else for which i voted, but guys, everything in that film is hilarious. the whole thing is just a pisstake on big hollywood action movies and all the jokes are about why these movies are actually stupid, racist, xenophobic, violence obsessed, poorly acted propaganda.

I made the mistake of watching LOTR1 and then trying to read the book. I loved the film when I saw it, but by the umpteenth page of Tom Bombadil I was ready to pack it in.

daria-g otm about team america - if you think it's racist, you've not got the joke.

I don't care if it's racist. I just thought it was tedious as hell.

xpost I mean, do people really think "America/Fuck Yeah/Gonna save the motherfuckin' day now" is supposed to be a genuine USA cheerleading anthem?

Racist caricatures of Asian dictators are so common in American blockbusters! Clearly that was the send up.

xp - it kind of is. Douchebags like Stone/Parker (ie libertarians) generally work under the MO that if they occasionally make fun of/criticize the GOP, they can spend the rest of the time harping on liberal stereotypes, engaging in soft racism, etc.. They can then claim they're "taking on both sides, maaaaaan," when, in reality, they're whoring for right-wing causes as much as anyone.

racist caricatures of villains are very common in american blockbusters! at least they used to be, when i used to watch them, but that was like over a decade and a half ago

in bruges is dope fuiud

xpost I mean, do people really think "America/Fuck Yeah/Gonna save the motherfuckin' day now" is supposed to be a genuine USA cheerleading anthem?

nice misdirection there, you'll note that nobody actually complained about that particular component of the movie. what I did complain about was the egregious racism, which runs through all of Stone/Parker's stuff and draws attention to itself precisely because its so out of place and unnecessary.

milo z OTM

also the whole "some people are dicks, which is why you need assholes on your side to fight them" speech at the end is total neo-con apologist crap

oh but let me guess that was just a joke/"ironic" etc

Douchebags like Stone/Parker (ie libertarians) generally work under the MO that if they occasionally make fun of/criticize the GOP, they can spend the rest of the time harping on liberal stereotypes, engaging in soft racism, etc.. They can then claim they're "taking on both sides, maaaaaan," when, in reality, they're whoring for right-wing causes as much as anyone.

^^^so very OTM

beyond being libertarians, i think stone/parker have a real horror of being in any way perceived as dirty hippies. it's as much a generational thing as a political one. they seem more horrified by tree huggers than torturers because they actually are more horrified by them. tree huggers are uncool via their particular prism, which is lot worse than being evil.

everything team america does is ridiculous and stupid, from beginning to end. i suppose there is also the mocking of hollywood liberals who imho mostly deserve it, that is nice if you try to save the world on your own time, while you make your money acting in stupid propaganda blockbuster films that make violence look like it's way cool

Michael Moore is known for his starring roles in Michael Bay films.

he is now!

(which is, of course, indicative of the politics of the movie - when they make fun of conservatives it's done in a funny or even openly admiring way, where the liberal punching bag is a LOL terrorist)

TAWP's greatest crime is being boring and un-funny, but it's pretty dumb to pretend that it was politically neutral.

the thing is Stone/Parker are just as guilty of engaging in self-righteous political grandstanding (albeit of the libertarian variety) as the liberals they pillory. Even when its funny - and often it is, because deflating blowhards is always funny - it smacks of blatant hypocrisy.

i.e., Michael Moore makes funny movies from a liberal POV. Stone/Parker make funny movies from a libertarian POV. The fact that the latter acts as though the former's very existence makes Michael Moore worthy of scorn speaks volumes about the depth of their political thought.

tipsy otm, which makes them (parker / stone) more annoying imo xxx-post

has anyone done any cruel parodies of Stone/Parker? seems like ripe territory

those smackers

if I could give negative points they would go to In Bruges

if you could explain that then i wouldn't have to ask why, but then that's probably why you didn't explain

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because I thought it was boring and stupid

― bnw, Thursday, February 4, 2010 5:46 PM (36 minutes ago) Bookmark

Wow it's really hard for me to see how anyone could have found it boring or stupid. I thought it was really well done and, at times, really fucking funny.

that would be hilarious shakey mo collier, u should do it x-post

x-post Also, I had absolutely no opinion of Colin Farrell before seeing this but he was really great.

shakey did you really not get the dicks and assholes joke? srsly?

first we'll need some horribly anti-semitic stereotype stand-in for Stone, and some kind of white trash class clown outfit for Parker...

x-post

shakey did you really not get the dicks and assholes joke? srsly?

I got that it was a joke - I got that its also the kind of thing Parker/Stone actually believe on some level. Silence during the Bushco era speaks volumes imho.

"shakey did you really not get the dicks and assholes joke? srsly?"

It's a joke that its pretty easy to believe that Stone/Parker take srsly, frankly.

you mean like the horribly anti-semetic cousin of kyle character, and the jimbo character maybe

xpost no i meant the actual "dicks fuck assholes" joke

btw i am in no way a stone/parker stan and i think theyve done an amazing job of mostly getting unfunnier as time has gone on, but taking their racism at face value is kind dumb imo

While South Park co-creator Matt Stone is a registered Republican,[citation needed] co-creator Trey Parker is actually a registered member of the Libertarian Party.[2] Stone sums up their views with the comment "I hate conservatives, but I really fucking hate liberals."[3]