The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

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Wondered who would be more reviled than Von Trier on this thread; Parker & Stone?

Chris L, Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:42 (sixteen years ago)

No, at least P&S's trolling is still funny a lot of the time.

Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:43 (sixteen years ago)

Dawn of the Dead remake was better than 28DL - whatever one's preferences, the 00s were a golden era for the zombie film.

they ate only candy canes (Pillbox), Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:43 (sixteen years ago)

when they're funny i forgive their obnoxiousness, political and otherwise. when they're not funny, they're just obnoxious.

This is pretty much OTM.

PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! PIES! (HI DERE), Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:44 (sixteen years ago)

which is kind of like, I think you're funny when you're not making fun of me

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:46 (sixteen years ago)

Parker and Stone might be libertarians, but above all else they're dogged contrarianists, for better and worse.

yah they also seem to have a particular h8 4 ppl who are earnest and self-serious and self-important which i guess is why they have so much ire for a lot of leftists *shurg* i think theyre p stupid/funny but i mean theyre still super fucken racists

the shots of a deserted london after dude wakes up in 28 days l8r a+++++

Lamp, Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:47 (sixteen years ago)

28 days later is pretty awesome but i think it's canon status helps to overshadow 28 weeks later, which might be better in some ways (though i don't like the ending as much.) the DotD remake was pretty good but i'm not a fan of the ending in that one either, which just seems like a cheap shot. i guess i prefer my cheap endings to be hopeful rather than nihilistic.

('_') (omar little), Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:48 (sixteen years ago)

Wondered who would be more reviled than Von Trier on this thread

Haneke.

queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:48 (sixteen years ago)

haneke at his best > von trier at his best
haneke at his worst <<< von trier at his worst

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:49 (sixteen years ago)

I liked 28 Days Later okay, but 28 Weeks was horseshit.

Your body is a spiderland (polyphonic), Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:50 (sixteen years ago)

28 Weeks' ending is so bleak that it retrospectively shits on the hopeful ending of 28 Days - just this huge, inescapable cloud of toxic gloom

Edward III, what do you consider Haneke at his best and worst?

Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:50 (sixteen years ago)

prolly cache and funny games respectively

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:51 (sixteen years ago)

Most of these films coming up today are just... meh.

I don't think this was a great zombie decade, bcz Patricia Arquette worked less. BA DUM BUM

Think I liked Land of the Dead (?) a shade more than 28DL.

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:52 (sixteen years ago)

vice magazine >>>>>>>>>>>>> south park

max, Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:53 (sixteen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/squidwhale.jpg

to me, the squid and the whale is the curb your enthusiasm to the royal tenenbaums' seinfeld -- darker, naughtier, less reliant on "stock" characters, less shy about showing awkwardness and conflict. doesn't mean i don't love both movies. i see tenenbaums as a tableau piece, a family portrait with action. this is closer to being a movie movie.

― mimi in st. louis (Jody Beth Rosen)

The real strength for me, though, was the unrelenting ambiguity of all the four principal characters. They were soooo horrible. Wretched people. Just barely enough decency creeping through occasionally to justify their continuing to live. Awful people. So thoroughly second-rate.

Thankfully no deus ex machina self awareness at the end. Jeff Daniels is still the jerk he always was, even in the hospital.

Great movie.

― EComplex

i don't think the characters were particularly wretched or horrible. they weren't super-morally-pure movie heroes but i liked that about them. nobody was selfless or above reproach. they were just real-seeming, messy people.

― s1ocki

#77

The Squid and the Whale
Noah Baumbach
2005
United States
(242 points, 13 votes, 1 first place)

('_') (omar little), Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:53 (sixteen years ago)

28 weeks later was better than 28 days later i thought

max, Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:53 (sixteen years ago)

hey omar dunno how much work youre doing for the individual posts already but since youre snagging comments would it be hard to also include a link to the biggest ilx thread about each movie when you do the post?

max, Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:54 (sixteen years ago)

thing that struck me about 28 Days later on DVD was the shittiness of the ungraded footage compared to the print! like magic! this could tie in with the video transfer issue upthread, i didn't follow that to resolution

men lie, women lie, hips don't (zvookster), Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:54 (sixteen years ago)

nice pun

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:56 (sixteen years ago)

code unknown is pretty beautiful imo

men lie, women lie, hips don't (zvookster), Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:57 (sixteen years ago)

for you, max?

i can do that.

('_') (omar little), Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:57 (sixteen years ago)

hehe thx

men lie, women lie, hips don't (zvookster), Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:57 (sixteen years ago)

28 days later is pretty awesome but i think it's canon status helps to overshadow 28 weeks later, which might be better in some ways (though i don't like the ending as much.)

i think both have p weak endings all told - although the v last sequence in 28 weeks was really good - and the action stuff (particularly the opening of 28 weeks) is much better. but i prefer the lone survivor/immediate aftermath set-up of the 1st one esp in a british context (<3 u john wyndham) i think the world-building and sense of uncertainty is cooler than whats mostly a chase flick.

both are dope movies tho & i'm glad at least 1 placed

Lamp, Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:57 (sixteen years ago)

i mean u dont have to bro... i dont want to owe u anything

max, Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:58 (sixteen years ago)

28WL >>>> 28DL

the secret ingredient is rose byrne

i think i voted for TSQTW

the highest per-vote vag so far (history mayne), Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:58 (sixteen years ago)

The film made me glad I had philistine parents.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Monday, December 12, 2005

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:58 (sixteen years ago)

damn these poll results are way more POP than the TRAX poll, i'm still an 0-for...

┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 4 February 2010 20:59 (sixteen years ago)

the shots of a deserted london after dude wakes up in 28 days l8r a+++++ - Any given GBYBE 20+ minute dirge will have very few practical applications, but that scene in 28DL is the best use of such a thing the world will probably ever see.

they ate only candy canes (Pillbox), Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:00 (sixteen years ago)

Still seems like few 2006-09 films? My hypothesis on the tailoff being confirmed?

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:01 (sixteen years ago)

ayo shasta did u put riding giants on your list??

Lamp, Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:01 (sixteen years ago)

no i did put DT+ZB tho...

┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:02 (sixteen years ago)

xxxp agreed about GYBE's utility and LOLOL @ how sales of that album surged at my college CD store job after 28dl

69, Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:03 (sixteen years ago)

I think there is still only 4 or 5 films from the second half of the decade at this point.

Darin, Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:03 (sixteen years ago)

(better story, better anthropology, just amazing footage of then SanMo/Venice as such a dilapidated, single parent, drug/alcohol ghetto compared to what it is today). xxxp

┌∩┐(◕_◕)┌∩┐ (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:04 (sixteen years ago)

Results kinda heavy on films that look cool / don't say much.

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:04 (sixteen years ago)

almost famous is probably my least favorite movie of the decade right after nick & norah's infinite playlist

ratface killah (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:04 (sixteen years ago)

maybe not least favorite, but one that made me angriest while watching

ratface killah (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:05 (sixteen years ago)

but dude high fidelity

69, Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:05 (sixteen years ago)

wait are u british

69, Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:05 (sixteen years ago)

pete, do you not laugh at ranty Jack Black?

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:06 (sixteen years ago)

69 otm re: HF

that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:06 (sixteen years ago)

Haneke at his best is prolly Time of the Wolf or Code Unknown, for me.

queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:07 (sixteen years ago)

xp to morbz yeah yeah i love jack black but i HAAAAAATE nick hornby, and i think this role is the one that made me feel horrible retroactively about everything john cusack has ever done

69, Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:07 (sixteen years ago)

its weird i totally remember everyone hating 28 weeks later so i didnt see it - perhaps i got the wrong impression

ice cr?m, Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:07 (sixteen years ago)

I only like Jack Black when he works in a store (a little when he teaches).

Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:08 (sixteen years ago)

h8 jak blak

ice cr?m, Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:09 (sixteen years ago)

can I call michael haneke michelle hannukah for the reminder of the thread?

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:09 (sixteen years ago)

jack black was awesome in bob roberts

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:09 (sixteen years ago)

career's been downhill since then

鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:09 (sixteen years ago)

The Squid and the Whale holds up very well.

Inculcate a spirit of serfdom in children (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 February 2010 21:10 (sixteen years ago)


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