The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

Lubitsch is dead.

Since 1947. You'd think you'd have moved on by now.

just 30 short years before disco...

in re the incredibles, brad bird is kind of a libertarian, isn't he? but otoh the movie's conceit is more or less the same as "harrison bergeron," so you could as easily call bird an acolyte of vonnegut as rand.

Weir really should stay away from mytho-poetic twaddle and make homosocial action movies.

Interesting.

― queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, February 4, 2010 1:48 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

Oh wait. Not at all.

― queen frostine (Eric H.), Thursday, February 4, 2010 1:48 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

coulda just said "interesting... NOT!"

incredibles is randian bs imo

argument settled

master and commander is DOPE and also gets credit for being the film that broke nabisco's brain iirc

Weir really should stay away from mytho-poetic twaddle and make homosocial action movies.

wait, which of those is master and commander? i haven't seen it, seems like it could be either.

Ha – most def the latter, tips.

M&C is the second film from my ballot to appear (#36).

coulda just said "interesting... NOT!"

I haven't quite mastered and commanded your gift for concise snark yet.

From a certain angle any superhero story is Randian.

OTMFM! The entire story is about mid-life/self-esteem crises.

Although it being a Randian parable would explain why my dad liked it so much, lol.

just 30 short years before disco...

Not sure what you're saying unless it's that it only took one generation for civilization to collapse.

master and commander is DOPE and also gets credit for being the film that broke nabisco's brain iirc

― ('_') (omar little), Thursday, February 4, 2010 1:52 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

u should really have posted his essay on it

m&c was my #10, h&k my #11

master and commander was terrific btw. the sound design was so so good, seeing it in a theater with a decent sound system was a great experience.

what is H&K again

haster and kommander?

Yeah, I'll admit I'm hindered by having watched only some of it with commercial breaks, et al.

Has anyone branded Ratatouille Randian as well? Because it's still about giving free rein to undiluted genius (ie Brad Bird's) and not being snotty and cynical about said genius (ie Brad Bird's). But it doesn't have the same obviously quotable talking points as the Incredibles.

http://www.heckler-koch.de/

it would have been cool if they'd shown it with vintage commercials from the era. xxp

(Almost Famous)... seemed pretty male-fantasy-oriented in a subtle way but strong enough to alienate me.

― vacation to outer darkness (Abbott), Thursday, February 4, 2010 10:10 AM (36 minutes ago)

incredibles is randian bs imo

argument settled

when nrq & i agree, pretty much.

I think M&C is the first one I havent seen.

the first Randian bs you haven't seen?

what is H&K again

Harold & Kumar

oh of course

all pixar movies are randian, obv
wall-e = government takes over and controls you
up = glorifies imperialism / old dude looks sorta like ayn rand

two things that stick out in Almost Famous - Kate Hudson leaving her glasses on the counter and then dramatically shuffling back into the frame to grab them (cheesy time: I thought that was a great moment in defining her character), Zooey Deschanel seeing Billy Crudup and shifting her hip to one side.

Ratatouille is a rat! Rand hated rats, I bet. All standing up on tables screeching for an architect to save her.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v212/etienne_saint/fotr_06_hd_small.jpg

Just got back from a nerd-infested midnight showing (I'm a nerd too, I guess, but at the very least of the showered variety). Hella good. Ian McKellan continues his evolution from froofroo "real" actor to total badass, and Ian Holm plays a midget. Peter Jackson = perverse on many satisfying levels.

― adam

There was a group of guys who came dressed as the entire Fellowship at the midnight showing of the first one Joei and I went to. It was really pathetic because all of their costumes looked half-finished, but they KNEW they looked like da bomb. I wanted to weep for them, but I was too busy laughing and pointing.

― Dan Perry

I liked first two movies alright, principally for VIGGO.

― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius)

#81

The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
Peter Jackson
2001
New Zealand/United States
(236 points, 11 votes)

Master & Commander was the last time Paul Bettany made a good movie yes?

Master and Commander is a Randian tale about a Master and a Commander who decide to go Galt on a boat together.

fuuuuuuck Tolkien

if this is #81, I can't imagine the others breaking top...50?

ps lotr is randian

Fellowship at #81 really? The only LotR I voted for.

lol ive only seen 1 movie listed so far 2day...

I think I might have liked Almost Famous if the characters were animated fish. As it was, there was only so much of Kate Hudson as the too-stereotypical "hooker with a heart of gold" that I could tolerate with a clear conscience. As far as someone else's nostalgia trip that I couldn't really relate to, American Graffiti was a far more enjoyable experience.

we have entered the franchise portion of the evening.

at least we've exited the fantasy football portion.

Has anyone branded Ratatouille Randian as well? Because it's still about giving free rein to undiluted genius (ie Brad Bird's) and not being snotty and cynical about said genius (ie Brad Bird's). But it doesn't have the same obviously quotable talking points as the Incredibles.

― Dorian (Dorianlynskey), Thursday, February 4, 2010 6:57 PM

seems to me it's speaking more to the kid/adult who feels "other" rather than a tribute to genius, as such

so basically people are fickle and inconsistent, gotcha

Ratatouille is more Milton Friedman than Rand. Outsourcing cooking to rats, stupid govt health regulations, etc...

i actually like two towers best of the lotr movies, because without being weighed down by throat-clearing or endless farewells, it just does action-action-action.

did not vote for any of them tho. they're well-made comic books and i'll be happy (or at least willing) to watch them again with my kids sometime, but that's about all i can say for them.

Cars is Goldwater-esque.

Where is the Randian analysis of Harry Potter?

I assume the colon in Master & Commander means Crowe priced himself out of doing sequels, and everyone else said fuckit.

harry potter is all about shopping iirc

Looking forward to this thread topping 5,000 posts.