The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

i either saw 'finding nemo' or... was there another cartoon abt fish?

Jaws?

finding remo

"I give up, surrendering to you is less labor-intensive than looking for someone better."

I think the full notion is more like "... looking for someone better as I continue to get worse."

People like the first 30 minutes of Wall-E & the first ten minutes of Up. Can't wait to see the first three minutes of their next movie.

It's weird to say that Almost Famous "gets music wrong" when in actuality it is a fairly autobiographical account of Crowe's experiences.

But emil.y, it's from the male POV. Hornby is like the emo Peckinpah.

Nemo admittedly looks rabishing

iirc there is no actual Zeppelin in AF

― The Tommy Westphall Universe Hypothesis (Shakey Mo Collier)

only saw this once (in the theater) and iirc "going to california" was used, making this (again iirc) only the 2nd film ever* to have LZ in it (both Crowe pix: fast times and almost famous).

*aside from the song remains the same.

It's weird to say that Almost Famous "gets music wrong" when in actuality it is a fairly autobiographical account of Crowe's experiences

He got his life wrong.

Prefer Nemo to most other Pixar movies

"emo Peckinpah" sounds like my Platonic Worst Director.

hahahaha

actually, maybe it was "bron-yr-aur"? whatever it was, a pretty acoustic number....

xxxxxp

But emil.y, it's from the male POV. Hornby is like the emo Peckinpah.

otm

"Tangerine," Steve Shasta.

shark tale!

more like shart fail

Re other fish film: Shark Tale? I saw Nemo on TV, and it was... okay. Mostly 'meh, it's a kid's film'.

xpost yeah, I appreciate that, but it honestly is from a sexist male's point of view. I'd be pretty fucked off if I thought my male friends/exes saw me as hollowly as that. And, you know, not everyone is a solipsist.

Yeah, but it treats (most of) the male characters as autonomous beings, whereas the women are entirely avatars/puppets - man is subject, woman object. Just because it happens to play to the old trick of idolising those zombies it doesn't mean that it gives them any agency.

I think that's a valid point. I also think it was an intentional viewpoint decision made in order to display the mindset of Cusack's character to the viewer; like I said, most of my memory of the film can be summed up as "WAU LISA B IS PURTY" but from what I remember, didn't the spark of agency in the female characters quickly lead to them dumping him and moving as far out of his life as possible?

my pixar 00s preference: ratatouille > up > wall-e > incredibles > nemo > monsters inc >> cars

Shark Tale is the one w/Scorsese, right?

almost famous is a blandly ok movie, cant really hate on it, also cant really give a fuck about it

gonna be way too many "little cartoon shows" (resp to Letterman) in this poll.

it is a fairly autobiographical account of Crowe's experiences.

hahahaha... plz see biopic within Zelig. They all end up fantasies.

omg at shart fail

Glad to see Nemo in there. Usually underrated next to the more grown-up aspirations of Ratatouille, Wall-E and the Incredibles but stands up to repeat viewings better than any of them - more charm and better storytelling. Plus it's my daughter's favourite film.

It's pretty obvious that the joke is on HiFi's male characters, which is why it's better than the damn nove.

xpost yeah, I appreciate that, but it honestly is from a sexist male's point of view. I'd be pretty fucked off if I thought my male friends/exes saw me as hollowly as that. And, you know, not everyone is a solipsist.

huge difference between a sexist movie and a movie from the POV of a sexist

p3t3, u dope ;)

― Rage, Resentment, Spleen (Dr Morbius), Thursday, February 4, 2010 6:17 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark

AF may be cloying, but it doesnt try to flex CRED like HF does. nick hornby is such a retarded dick.

He got his life wrong.

this happens all the time with autobios

no, Mull of Kintyre is good

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because it doesn't have any aliens in it

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this is precisely backwards, surely.

pixar rankings for me wall-e>ratatouille>>up>>>>nemo>monsters inc>>>>>>>cars=incredibles

I like "Finding Nemo" a lot. Probably the only Pixar movie I like more is "The Incredibles". (No I haven't seen all of them; I refuse to see any of the "Toy Story" movies and "Cars" and I haven't gotten around to most of the others.)

i think HF had some legit lols but fell down when it came to lessons abt lyfe. maybe it was misogynist, maybe it wasn't: i can hardly even remember it so kind of surprised to see it listed. it's no 'grosse point blank'.

Ratatouille >>>>> Wall-E.

It's pretty obvious that the joke is on HiFi's male characters, which is why it's better than the damn nove.

I don't disagree that the woman are presented as being 'better' than the men, but they are presented that way only as higher mythical beings, that are for pedestal-putting and nothing more.

NRQ OTM re: HF

it's no 'grosse point blank'.

^^^^^ After Say Anything the best movie in which he starred.

I refuse to see any of the "Toy Story" movies

! r u mad.

they are presented that way only as higher mythical beings, that are for pedestal-putting and nothing more.

also for making sex on iirc

I don't get why someone who refuse to see the Toy Story movies. it it a political thing?

is

nemo, monsters inc = underrated
wall-e, up = overrated
ratatouille = rated correctly

hahahaha... plz see biopic within Zelig. They all end up fantasies.

Well of course. I'm just saying that some of the things that are perceived as "wrong" possibly really did happen, whereas some of the parts that maybe ring true are fabrications. I'm sure there are parts of High Fidelity "that would never happen in a real record store" that actually did happen in a record store.

^^^^^ After Say Anything the best movie in which he starred.

its all been downhill since Better Off Dead

almost famous is a blandly ok movie, cant really hate on it, also cant really give a fuck about it

Oh, totally. I kinda don't understand the wildly varying reviews that Crowe films receive (except for Jerry McGuire, which I did think was quite good). All of the rest from this decade seem about on par to me. AF was nowhere near as good as people believed, Vanilla Sky and Elizabethtown weren't nearly as bad, all were middlin', mildly entertaining dramadies that were good for about one viewing.

THE WORST

I honestly don't understand why anyone gives a fuck about Cameron Crowe at all, script for Fast Times excepted

I don't think whether Almost Famous (a fictional movie about a fictional band) got the music/history/business 'right' should affect how good (or bad) a movie it was

Elizabethtown gets points for resurrecting Tom Petty's "It'll All Work Out," but loses those points again because ORNALDO BOOMPS' hair is pure 1993.

ratatouille = rated correctly

really? I'd say, generally, it's underrated.