The (Now-Overrated) ILX Top 100 Films of the 2000s Poll Results

I had Songs From The Second Floor at around #20. 2/15 for me so far (Tropical Malady and Memories Of Murder). Um, did anyone else vote for Cremaster 3?

1/15, happy-go-juggalo

nowt of mine yet. I don't really like many of LvTs films but his reductio ad absurdum of emotional engagement w/ cinema isn't something you can 'hate' neatly. he IS a troll, feeling anything towards him is as awkward/questionable as feeling anything towards his characters. I think he's maybe patronising towards cinema in general and to his own films perhaps but not to the audience or any other group in particular. I'm not expecting Five Obstructions to place but seeing his efforts laid bare against leth's stoicism and hearing him admit his own failure was sort of great, and some of the shorts were awesome.

2/15 - friedmans/real girls

do still expect at least say 1/3 of mine to show

My ballot was pretty canon, so I think about 15 of mine should place.

this is a real silent majority poll imo. i've hardly ever heard ne1 rep for 'all the real girls'.

this is a real silent majority poll imo

Yes. 100+ ballots? Most film threads are like 4 people yelling at each other.

2/15 (Napoleon and High Fidelity). I'm actually surprised that I've seen six of the movies above, as my movie viewing (of movies released this decade, anyway) has really tapered off as the last ten years have elapsed. For example, just went to see Bogdonavich's Nickelodeon (1976) the other night, which I'm pretty sure is the fourth film I've seen in theaters over the last 12 months. So my ballot may be a wholly unfair representative of what the oughts had to offer.

to belabor the lvt, i'll say again that i think he cares way more about entertaining an audience than most of his miserabilist cohort. he's a showman in a way that, say, haneke is too stiff-lipped to be. that can make him annoying, in a sort of "jokes, bruv" way, but i really think he's more of a ringmaster than a bully or a sadist. (and of course whether the audience is actually entertained is a whole other variable.)

tipsy OTM

LvT may not want you to feel good about yourself, but Haneke doesn't want you to feel good about yourself and he also doesn't want you to be entertained.

I don't think him a sadist or a bully or even a misogynist really, I just think his shenanigans are dull. It's a shame, really, because a lot of Antichrist is really great, but then he's got to belabor the point with the last 40 or so minutes. 'So you think I hate women? Well hows about this!!' He can't do anything subtly.

1 for me (High Fidelity, which I gave 7 points).

4/15 (Morvern, Talk to Her, Together, ATRG)

'So you think I hate women? Well hows about this!!' He can't do anything subtly.

see i totally don't think that's what that's about. but i guess we hashed all that out on the antichrist thread. it's just, i have this feeling that while with some directors people are at pains to read all kinds of nuance into material that might not sustain it, with von trier there's an opposite tendency to take his provocations at face value, or less than face value, and assume that's all he's doing. but of course when you put a self-clitorectomy right there on screen, you take the risk that that's all people are going to see.

have you seen the Europa DVD? On the supplements he pretty much says "I'm full of shit" a couple of times.

I still love The Kingdom, esp the first half.

the Jamie Foxx movie?

I'd pay to see LvT direct the feature-length

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Watching VT films these days is very similar to watching Neveldine/Taylor's Gamer in that at some point they can only really be appreciated as academic exercises. And that grates.

I would be stunned if Werkmeister Harmonies doesn't make it.

doesn't fixed

I've not seen it, but from threads and elsewhere I think it's got the momentum. Just depends on the silent voters. Probably in the same boat as Miami Vice or even The New World.

Of course, if neither of those three make it, what types of films would the silent voter block be going for? Crash? Will there be a LOTR vote split?

i sorta liked 'werkmeister'. wouldn't vot for it. why so gloomy, europeans? you have it easy.

I really don't see Decasia having 230 pts either. I'll live.

Decasia and Werkmeister are massive blindspots for me.

I think we'll get a better idea of the direction the poll is going if we start seeing oddball films pop up in the next couple of rounds. if even one non-consensus film show up, stuff like birth, martyrs, songs from second floor, etc, there's hope that a passionate minority could lift a film.

for instance, if 10 people rated decasia in their top ten it would get at least 310 pts which would still get it ranked. I'm not expecting that to happen, but it's within the realm of possibility.

i'm mostly expecting to start seeing things like apatow movies showing up. but maybe i'm expecting too little.

also, awesomely funny movies about oilmen and Natzis

syriana, the good german

the lols!

2/15 (happy-go-lucky and movern callar) but i totally wouldve voted for memories of murder if id tht abt my list at all

Yes. 100+ ballots? Most film threads are like 4 people yelling at each other.

lol those are only the shitty ones abt blog posts plenty of ppl post abt good movies

I'm pretty sure this will be the top 20, but everything else is probably fair game

there will be blood
mystic river
eternal sunshine of the spotless mind
mulholland drive
inland empire
pan's labyrinth
children of men
superbad
kill bills
LOTR 1-2-3
let the right one in
the wrestler
brokeback mountain
cache
in the mood for love
royal tennebaums
wall-e

if some of these show up in bottom 100 we'll be in for an interesting list

I voted for exactly 4 of those (but meant to vote for a 5th).

should a mod add a link to the noms thread in the first post?

mystified why u think 'mystic river' is gonna chart

Voted for 6 or 7 of those, and can't see them not placing - not sure about the others

maybe it won't? I'm not kreskin

IB will outrank KB 1 & 2, newer is better per ice cr?am.

you prefer KB, i take it?

my assumption is that the longer a movie has been around, the more of a chance 100 ppl on ILX have seen it

yeah i voted for 6 of those too (although CoM was very bottom of my ranked ballot, so i don't know how much good that's going to do it). i'll also be surprised/appalled if mystic river is top 20. (if it appears at all, really...)

if there was just one bourne movie i'd say it'd be a lock for the top 20, but with vote-splitting between the 3, who knows?

yeah, that's why I have ppl asking why I've waited SO LONG to see Avatar!

xp

okay, replace mystic river with the departed

I voted for 9 of my theoretical 20

I voted for 3, surprise surprise.

Oops, make that 4.

so many of those are gonna fall so far outside the top 20, probably at least half of them

3, after I dropped Children of Men upon downgrading it after third viewing

so what time does omar wake up

xpost I downgrade your ballot after one viewing.

lol

so many of those are gonna fall so far outside the top 20, probably at least half of them

I hope you're right